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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2022, 01:53:43 PM »
MJ should be first picked every week for his tackling & pressure alone.... :shh
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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2022, 04:41:37 PM »
In the Mix: Round 6

Sarah Black
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20 April 2022




There will be at least one forced change off the back of Richmond's disappointing loss to Adelaide, with the dashing Hugo Ralphsmith ruled out with a short-term rib injury. Co-captain Dylan Grimes (hamstring) is still unavailable, while Josh Caddy has also suffered a medium-term hamstring injury in the VFL. Jake Aarts could force his way into the 22 on the back of 32 touches, seven clearances and a goal in the VFL, while it remains to be seen if Kane Lambert is brought straight in after 25 touches and a goal.

Verdict: Aarts for Ralphsmith.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/745032/in-the-mix-r6-who-s-pushing-for-selection-who-s-under-the-pump-

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2022, 08:02:11 PM »
For everyone and im gunna keep asking it. Will we win the flag this year ? If no then there is only one course of action we should be taking, especially with the age demographic of the list.

It’s not as black and white as that. Otherwise by that logic you’d have 10+ teams playing youth ahead of experienced players for the sake of it.

Hardly playing kids just two the rest have been around a bit wouldn't you agree.The logic in our case says the experienced players are poor and the younger blokes deserve a crack.
Either way theres hardly a lack of experienced players Gibcus is the only one at 19 in defence Miller and Mansell are 22.

Only RCD at age 22 in the midfield among a pile of 25yo to 32yo.

Just Ralphsmith in the fwd half with 22yo thru 33yo. plenty of experience there

Would like to see a team along these lines give or take a player.

FB Mansell - Tarrant - Gibcus
HB Vlastuin - Miller - Broad

C  Pickett - RC-D - Rioli
R  Nankervis - Cotchin - Prestia

HF Bolton - Balta - Ralphsmith
FF Lynch - Riewoldt - Stack

Int from.  Lambert, Dow, Sonsie, Ross, Graham, Baker, Short, McIntosh.

It aint gunna happen but one can only hope.

Miller lol. Are u wanting to see Fritsch kick 10?

LOL last time i looked there were 6 defenders named why you would pluck a big kpd to play on Fritsch is quite frankly bemusing.
Reckon as third tall and being so good in the air Gibcus would get the gig or failing that Broad.Tarrant will probably get McDonald and Miller will get Weiderman. If they Play Ben Brown then we may have to change.

The bottom line is no one is asking for a whole pile of kids get thrown in. And no one is asking for a team devoid of age experience.

Just on Baker Claw he has been down , but the question has to asked why have we moved him up forward when he was at home as a half back flank and playing great footy I can't understand  it ?.We got this obsession playing players out of position again same as Ross. Doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah we're playing 3 key forwards yet we hardly look dangerous the delivery is poor we know  , but there not leading not taking pack marks or creating havoc seems like a waste.My personal opinion Balta and Lynch work the best together.
I tend to agree with nearly all that.

Baker first. My biggest gripe with him playing back is his size 173cm and its very exploitable.As an example useing him he can play else where which affords a defender like Mansell an opportunity. Can say the same for Rioli  and others it seems we play any one who didnt start as a defender in defence and then draft defenders and make em play else where when they do get a fleeting senior game.

Why have we moved Baker  well we can ask that about so many..  Mansell who really does deserve another crack at it. Rioli, Short, Vlastuin, Broad Grimes who can play small very well, Pickett was an outstanding hb before we drafted him, Stack who imo has played his best footy in defense, We just recruited Brown and Banks, we have played edwards there, Fair dinkum sml/med defender is the last of our problems, sorting out who should play there really does seem to be an issue though.

On the bigger fwds for me the problem is with smaller players whose disposal makes it way too hard for the bigger blokes. Go look at it the problem is not getting it in there but the way we get there and the quality of the sml/med players in there and bringing it in.

All i know is if we continue down the current path we will spend another long period in the wilderness.

The club with the biggest gap between its experienced players that is games played and its 24 and unders is us.
That was fine when were still in the window OR WINNIG FLAGS,  but we have not been in the window for two years now and we continue to basically only play 18 to 24 yo when injury hits. The mind set needs to change or we are going to keep on wasting what should be development seasons prolonging the pain.
Every one talks about phasing the older blokes out but thats is just talk. Im not sure there are too many supporters who really accept that we have to go backwards to go forwards. That entails getting a new bunch of mostly young blokes to 50 80 100 games and that takes time. A slow drip feed will not cut it anymore. Next year we will have 12 vets all a year older and we continue to place reliance on them rather than easing that reliance out.

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2022, 08:21:57 PM »
Just a point for all to see.
We have 14 what i would call juniors that is inexperienced very young blokes aged 18 - 21. These are young blokes we are striving to find out if they are worth further development.
Just one of them has reached more than 20 games and that is Jack Ross with 34 and unfortunately for us he is one who is under the most scrutiny of weather he has what it takes to make it.
This group has played a collective 79 games for an average of 5.5 games. If you take Ross out then that average plummets.

We have a further 8 players aged 22 - 24 basically development players. That is juniors we have deemed worth keeping beyong their first 3 or so seasons.
This group contains mostly the better performed kids we have had come thru and we have put games into them. Even so only three have got to 50 games or more.The group also includes our two best prospects so far in Bolton and Balta.
Rather than comment on the how good a prospect they are i will just name em Bolton, Balta, Baker, Graham, Stack, Miller, RC-D, Colina.Only half of these players have become regular players.

Last it seems to me and i will lrt others do the leg work for themselves it seems to me we rarely promote kids on merit but instead they mostly only get games when injury happens to the older blokes. Somewhere along the line for me that is now it has to change.

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2022, 12:16:10 PM »
IN: Lambert, McIntosh, Sonsie, Stack

OUT: Ross, Edwards, Aarts, Ralphsmith

Round 6 TEAM v Melbourne

B:    Miller     Tarrant      Vlastuin

HB:     Short     Broad     Rioli

C:     Pickett     Cotchin     McIntosh

HF:     Parker     Balta     Lambert

F:     Baker     Lynch     Riewoldt

R:     Nankervis     Prestia     Dow

I:     Bolton     Sonsie     Graham     Castagna

Med-Sub:     Stack

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2022, 12:32:29 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2022, 06:05:24 PM »
Dimma earlier today said Kmac will be back and he believes Lambert will play. Soldo could also come in.

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Kamdyn McIntosh will return after missing last week's loss to Adelaide through COVID-19 protocols and Kane Lambert is set to play his first senior match of the season.

Lambert has overcome a hip injury and has built his fitness on limited game time in the VFL over the past fortnight.

Hardwick is "very bullish" Lambert will be given the all-clear to take on the unbeaten Demons but concedes the midfielder won't be at peak fitness.

"He's a pretty fit guy overall, footy-wise he hasn't played a lot, but we're pretty confident that what he can bring is going to be pretty good," Hardwick said.

"He's just such an important guy to our club.

"He's a coach on and off the field and just a wonderful ambassador for us with the way he plays the game."

Richmond will consider recalling ruckman Ivan Soldo to help Toby Nankervis against Melbourne duo Max Gawn and Luke Jackson.

But Soldo needs to be cleared to play after spending time in hospital this week with an infected toe.

Source: AFL website

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2022, 05:36:01 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

I beg to differ havent changed win lose or draw.
The same players copped criticism when we were winning flags as they are now we are losing.
The main thing that has changed is we are definately in decline and the oldies wont get better but worse.
Now that we are past winning flags the one issue im loud about is playing more of the kids.and less of not so much the older players although they need to be phased out but the blokes i have always been critical of as they are clearly incapable of taking us to more flags
There is no winning with some here  i cop cant play the kids while we are winning and now i cop cant play the kids the oldies and others have earnt their spot.


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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2022, 05:23:28 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

I beg to differ havent changed win lose or draw.

You literally only posted 12 times during the 2020 season

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2022, 05:52:26 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

I beg to differ havent changed win lose or draw.

You literally only posted 12 times during the 2020 season

In his defence it was a shorter season :D

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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2022, 06:30:11 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

I beg to differ havent changed win lose or draw.

You literally only posted 12 times during the 2020 season

Pre 2017 grand final 1554 posts (less than three years) saying how crap we were and how everybody does this and that wrong.
1 post after saying he got lots wrong and won't post for a while
234 posts in the next three years.Not even a single one celebrating or congratulating the team for the next 2 flags.
Another 567 posts since the 2020 grand final (18 months) saying how crap we are.

Yeah you have not changed at all claw.Win lose of draw. I should copy the post after the 2017 grand final. Is was a classic. From reading that post I do feel that you might actually be a Tiger supporter. Pitty most of the other 2 and a half thousand odd don't.

Sure have some players you don't like or think should not be picked. Sure be critical of selection or fitness. Sure be critical of some other posts. Just don't denegrate people be it players,coaches , administration, supporters or other posters. Do that and you might find you have more support for some of your arguments.
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Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2022, 11:49:35 PM »
I knew Clawski would be busy once we started losing again but I didn’t think it would be this bad… :lol

I beg to differ havent changed win lose or draw.

You literally only posted 12 times during the 2020 season
One i dont just post here, two its a hiding to nothing not if you win a flag. In fact the team wins a flag and you criticise and what do you cop? well i will leave it up to you. Even then i still stuck to what i thought was right or more to the point who can play who can't and who will will take over.

All i can say is like every other poster here and just like the club i get my fair share of things wrong but one thing when i think im right i will stick by it win lose or draw.Now that is unlike many posters who chop and change as it suits it seems. I suppose its called standing by your convictions right or wrong.

Now on that that is the last time i will lower myself to defend what i post.