Richmond "hot favourite" out of 4 Vic clubs interested in Tim Taranto (SEN)

[Tiger Khosh]

True story: When we played GWS last year at Docklands (the one we narrowly won), the bloke sitting next to me happened to be a member of Taranto's family (he even showed me his driver's licence at the end of the game to prove it). Lucky, I said Tim was a gun before he showed me . The bloke was a Geelong supporter too so if the rest of the family are Cats fans then they'll be pushing for Taranto to end up down the Princes Hwy.

Players rarely end up going to the team they supported as a kid in trades. Allegiances go out the window when they turn pro.

[yandb]

Caro reckons we're interested in Hopper and Taranto.

Hoppers knees are shot.

[one-eyed]

KING AND CORNES' TRADE THOUGHTS ON TARANTO

Nic Negrepontis
SEN
8 July 2022

Cornes: “He appears to be gettable from the Giants and has reportedly four Melbourne clubs chasing him in Richmond, Geelong, Essendon and Collingwood. How do you see him and what club would like to get him?”

King: “I think Richmond is the number one seed. What would you have to pay to get him? You probably have to pay a first-round pick and maybe a little steak-knife third round selection.”

Cornes: “Taking it back to when Dion Prestia left the Gold Coast, at that stage of his career, I think it was a pick six for him, would that be around the figure for Tim Taranto?”

King: “I think Prestia was a better package as an absolute clearance beast. Taranto has the ability to play forward as that hybrid marking midfield forward … he’s that sort of player. I don’t know if he is the absolutely midfielder Prestia is. If you were GWS, what would you take? What would be the bare minimum you’d take? Would you take a late first rounder?”

Cornes: “I don’t think I’m the best at valuing players … I think he would be around pick 12, that’s just my gut feel, but GWS probably want more. Is Adam Cerra a better player than Taranto with what he’s done in the game? Probably not. Dylan Shiel went for two first-round picks. It’s just a matter of the leverage you’ve got.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/07/king-and-cornes-trade-thoughts-on-taranto-jackson-and-lobb/

[Tiger Khosh]

GWS have been known to give away players cheap so they can get rid of salary. If we can get him with our first and third that would be a ripper deal considering we basically have 2 firsts with norths second rounder.

[Knighter]

We don’t have a 3rd round pick

[Andyy]

We don’t have a 3rd round pick

Castagna?

[one-eyed]

It’s understood the Tigers are keen on bringing in a midfielder to help Shai Bolton, Jayden Short, Liam Baker and Jack Graham, with Taranto’s Giants teammate Jacob Hopper also linked to them. But you could argue Taranto has more tricks than Hopper – the Sandringham Dragons product’s ability to push forward and hit the scoreboard is proven — so they may push harder for Taranto.

Club legend Matthew Richardson said Taranto is “exactly what Richmond need”, considering Trent Cotchin and Kane Lambert are coming to the end, Dion Prestia’s recent injury issues and uncertainty around Martin.

“He can play inside, he can get plenty of the footy,” Richardson told 3AW’s Sportsday.

“They need a midfielder and he’s in the right age bracket.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-round-17-talking-points-analysis-reaction-highlights-results-wrap-finals-top-eight-predictions-ladder/news-story/827fe5011a06ef160656b74928c705a6

[The Machine]

It’s understood the Tigers are keen on bringing in a midfielder to help Shai Bolton, Jayden Short, Liam Baker and Jack Graham, with Taranto’s Giants teammate Jacob Hopper also linked to them. But you could argue Taranto has more tricks than Hopper – the Sandringham Dragons product’s ability to push forward and hit the scoreboard is proven — so they may push harder for Taranto.

Club legend Matthew Richardson said Taranto is “exactly what Richmond need”, considering Trent Cotchin and Kane Lambert are coming to the end, Dion Prestia’s recent injury issues and uncertainty around Martin.

“He can play inside, he can get plenty of the footy,” Richardson told 3AW’s Sportsday.

“They need a midfielder and he’s in the right age bracket.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-round-17-talking-points-analysis-reaction-highlights-results-wrap-finals-top-eight-predictions-ladder/news-story/827fe5011a06ef160656b74928c705a6

Get both- why not!

[the claw]

Geez when it comes to trades people lose their ability to think clearly.

Why on earth would GWS want to give up first round picks and players for a 31 yr old on huge coin when they themselves have a salary cap squeeze.Last time i looked they have an abundance of good mids as well.
Are they winning a flag the next couple of seasons hmm thats very debatable but as they are currently i dont think Dusty will be the difference next year or the year after.

Look i love dusty just as much as the next bloke but if running a list id do what we did and target a younger good mid like Prestia or even a 24 yr old Judd if i thought we were in a definate window. I think Ablett went to GCS at age  26 thats not 31. Thats like a club picking up the 2017 version of Dusty not the 2023 version.

I dont care how good any player has been but at 31 32 yrs im not trading away the future on a player on the down hill slide thats just dumb.
This is not a Chris judd scenario Judd was just 24 when he went to Carlton and while they paid heavy for him they got 8 yrs out of him. how many will a side get out of Dusty?? that is the real question  are you giving up two first rounders who may only be there two seasons and is past his best.

[Andyy]

If we want Taranto or Hopper, and are expecting GWS to foot the bill for Dusty's entire contract, then I honestly don't expect anything to come back our way in that trade. Taranto and Hopper are good players with plenty of years left. Dusty is on huge coin so if we don't want to pay him to play elsewhere then we can't expect overs for him.

Dusty + R1 pick (about pick 12) for Taranto + Hopper, with GWS paying Dusty's wage.

Taranto and Hopper between them will cost over $1.5mil/year you'd think, so we'd need Dusty's wage off our books and one of Edwards and Lambert to retire. If they both hang up the boots we might be able to find enough money to make an offer to someone like Fogarty, if not then use the leftovers to keep guys like Baker and Bolton signed up.

[Rampsation]

I Say keep dusty

Get Fogarty for a 2nd rounder or Mansell
Get Hopper for a first

And wait for 2023 to start

[Andyy]

I Say keep dusty

Get Fogarty for a 2nd rounder or Mansell
Get Hopper for a first

And wait for 2023 to start

Fog won't be that cheap unfortunately. Our second pick is #29 and it won't cut it. I think WP is correct that the Norf pick #19 (likely to slide with bids etc) would have to go.

[Rampsation]

Hopper for our first lets say pick 12 as an example
Pick 19 to Adelaide for Fogarty
Future 1st for Taranto if we want to go balls deep on tbe offensive recruiting wise.

Riewoldt Retires
Lambert Retires
Edwards Retires

Thats it really. In effect CCJ for Fogarty ... A 1000% win for us every day of the week.

[Andyy]

Hopper for our first lets say pick 12 as an example
Pick 19 to Adelaide for Fogarty
Future 1st for Taranto if we want to go balls deep on tbe offensive recruiting wise.

Riewoldt Retires
Lambert Retires
Edwards Retires

Thats it really. In effect CCJ for Fogarty ... A 1000% win for us every day of the week.

How do you propose we pay all of Taranto, Hopper and Fogarty off the savings from just Shedda, Lambert and Jack? Those incoming 3 would probably cost twice what the outgoing fossils earn.

Only way that works is if Dusty leaves.

[one-eyed]

GWS football boss Jason McCartney says contract talks with Tim Taranto will take time due to the club not having a senior coach.

According to Sportsday’s Sam McClure, four Victorian clubs – Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon and Geelong – have all shown interest in the 24-year-old midfielder.

Taranto’s two-year deal with the Giants is up at season’s end.

GWS wants to retain the 2019 Kevin Sheedy Medallist as he weighs up his future beyond this year.

“We’re in constant dialogue with Tim and his management. Matt Bain, his manager, is up here in Sydney now, which is great,” McCartney told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.

“That’ll take some time to be honest when there’s not a coach in place.

“Tim is really invested in our club and loves living in Sydney, but he’s got the right – he’s out of contract, he’s assessing his options.

“We’ll continue to work with both parties and hopefully we get the right outcome at the end of the season.

“The priority is to keep Tim, but we’re not immune to this, we do deal with this a lot.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/15/giants-give-updates-on-midfield-pair-as-rivals-circle/