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AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« on: August 24, 2022, 06:43:36 PM »
AFLW round 1

Geelong vs RICHMOND


Sunday, 28th August @ GMHBA Stadium (Kardinia Park).

Start time:  4:10 pm

Broadcast: Live on Ch 7.

https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4654/geel-v-rich

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 07:03:13 PM »
Go Tigress

Couldn't give a continental and think watching grass grow is potentially the better spectator sport, but hope they have a good year for those that do care.

Serious question for those that do care. Woman's tennis is at an elite level. Soccer is decent to watch, as is basketball. Cricket is also getting there as a female sport. How many years away is AFLW from being at a semi reasonable standard? There is no doubt they have gone to early in diluting the talent pool with the extra teams. With footy popular for the girls at a young age over the last few years, should there be a significant jump in quality in another 6-8yrs when those kids reach draft age? Or is that wishful thinking?

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2022, 07:24:02 PM »
Go Tigress

Couldn't give a continental and think watching grass grow is potentially the better spectator sport, but hope they have a good year for those that do care.

Serious question for those that do care. Woman's tennis is at an elite level. Soccer is decent to watch, as is basketball. Cricket is also getting there as a female sport. How many years away is AFLW from being at a semi reasonable standard? There is no doubt they have gone to early in diluting the talent pool with the extra teams. With footy popular for the girls at a young age over the last few years, should there be a significant jump in quality in another 6-8yrs when those kids reach draft age? Or is that wishful thinking?

I remember watching women's cricket 15 years ago and it was shocking. Now I reckon women's cricket is as enjoyable as men's. So I would say 10 to 15 years for AFLW

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 07:49:11 PM »
Go Tigress

Couldn't give a continental and think watching grass grow is potentially the better spectator sport, but hope they have a good year for those that do care.

Serious question for those that do care. Woman's tennis is at an elite level. Soccer is decent to watch, as is basketball. Cricket is also getting there as a female sport. How many years away is AFLW from being at a semi reasonable standard? There is no doubt they have gone to early in diluting the talent pool with the extra teams. With footy popular for the girls at a young age over the last few years, should there be a significant jump in quality in another 6-8yrs when those kids reach draft age? Or is that wishful thinking?

I remember watching women's cricket 15 years ago and it was shocking. Now I reckon women's cricket is as enjoyable as men's. So I would say 10 to 15 years for AFLW

Woman’s cricket is definitely on an upward trajectory
Not near the men for me
But definitely far more watchable than AFLW

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2022, 08:47:54 PM »
Go Tigress

Couldn't give a continental and think watching grass grow is potentially the better spectator sport, but hope they have a good year for those that do care.

Serious question for those that do care. Woman's tennis is at an elite level. Soccer is decent to watch, as is basketball. Cricket is also getting there as a female sport. How many years away is AFLW from being at a semi reasonable standard? There is no doubt they have gone to early in diluting the talent pool with the extra teams. With footy popular for the girls at a young age over the last few years, should there be a significant jump in quality in another 6-8yrs when those kids reach draft age? Or is that wishful thinking?

I remember watching women's cricket 15 years ago and it was shocking. Now I reckon women's cricket is as enjoyable as men's. So I would say 10 to 15 years for AFLW

As someone who has followed the AFLW from day 1 I can clearly see the improvement over the 6 seasons. However I do accept there is a long way to go

While I getting your point TT and agree to a point I think it's important to remember that our women cricketers have only bee fully professional for the last 8 or so years. And I think you'll find the standard of women's cricket improved significantly when the money was poured in for (1) development and (2) allowd players to play professionally. It is only 15 years ago that our women cricketers had to pay to play for Australia. In that they only received a daily allowance and had to pay for uniforms.

I see the same happening with the AFLW. The funding is there now for the development pathways and players are getting reasonably paid. The pay side of things is crucial as it means they concentrate on playing rather trying to juggle playing and working

With that in play I reckon the improvement will come quicker, say 3-5 years
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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2022, 08:53:40 PM »
I like the AFLW, in the same way I like watching TAC cup and even local footy and junior footy and same as watching soccer at Olympics. It is what it is but it's competitive sport.

Give me a close AFLW game over a Round 23 Geelong vs WCE game.

I feel that it'll be another 15 years away until it gets to a peak. This is when the first crop of proper developed pathway of juniors are the veterans of the sport. I think it was 4-5 years ago junior girls footy properly started an elite pathway. So when those girls are in their twilight of their careers will we see full lists of developed players from under 10s to AFLW.

Until then I can still appreciate the contest for what it is. Wanting it to be X is where viewers ruin it for themselves.
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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2022, 09:14:25 PM »
You know it will have made it when the athletic standard is as professional as the men's game. If Sydney Stack is in trouble for his skinfolds in the pre-season then that tells you all you need to know about the difference between the two. While there are AFLW players who have a competitive advantage simply for being overweight it is not taking itself seriously.

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2022, 11:57:11 PM »
You know it will have made it when the athletic standard is as professional as the men's game. If Sydney Stack is in trouble for his skinfolds in the pre-season then that tells you all you need to know about the difference between the two. While there are AFLW players who have a competitive advantage simply for being overweight it is not taking itself seriously.
So true.
Look up any AFLW team list player bio and you’ll get height and age but you won’t see weight stats.

I actually enjoy watching the girls play and I think the AFLW has improved heaps from the first couple of seasons. I’d expect a bit of a correction with extra teams in this season.

I reckon it’s been great to see the progression and growth from the beginning.
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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2022, 05:30:32 PM »
Geelong v Richmond Preview:

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25 August 2022


A more exciting fixture to close the round than most might realise, these are two sides who are desperately looking to move up the ladder this season. Richmond looks ready to genuinely challenge for finals for the first time, with its quick ball movement from a newly deep midfield into a forward line loaded with Courtney Wakefield, Katie Brennan, Sarah D'Arcy, and Stephanie Williams. 

Without the ever-reliable interceptor Maddy McMahon down back for Geelong, Richmond's marking prowess will no doubt be front of mind for the home side. Should they allow enough supply, the Tigers have the potential to pile on a big score, which would be worst case scenario for the Cats. To combat this, Geelong needs to become more efficient out of the contest. Winning clearances as they have done in recent seasons, but actually turn that into attacking drives.

Tip: The Tigers look the goods this season. Richmond by 12 points.

https://www.womens.afl/news/99584?_ga=2.80127639.1284796830.1654439057-224749430.1603381344

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‘It’s super exciting’: Grace Egan prepares for Richmond AFLW debut

By Daniel Webb
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Aug 25, 2022



New era: Grace Egan recently played for Richmond against Hawthorn in an AFLW practice match at the MCG. Photo by Joel Carrett

Shepparton football star Grace Egan will once again strut her stuff in the AFLW this season, albeit in a different jumper.

Egan, a former Carlton talent, will pull on the yellow and black of Richmond this year, returning to the club where she played two years of VFLW football.

Heading into round one of season seven of the competition, The News decided now was the perfect time to have a chat to the rising star and see how things were shaping up heading into the campaign.

“It’s super exciting,” Egan said on playing for Richmond.

“I probably never would have thought I’d be back, but now that I’m back I don’t regret any decisions.”

Quickly becoming one of the competition’s best midfielders, the talent known as ‘’Greg’’ averaged 15.3 disposals a game in her 23 matches at the Blues.

Finishing fourth and sixth in Carlton’s best-and-fairest counts during her time at the club, the 22-year-old said there were plenty of emotions going into round one.

“It’s always full of excitement and nerves, but no matter who we play it’s always the same emotions,” she said.

“It’s just exciting to finally have the season around again really.”

First up the Tigers will face off with the team Egan supported growing up, Geelong, with a clash against her former club Carlton pencilled in for round eight.

“I’m excited as well as nervous,” she said.

“I have great relationships with the girls there (Carlton) and the staff, so that game is obviously going to be an important one to me.

“I’m more excited than anything because I’ve left on good terms with all the players and staff, so it’s going to be a great day and a game that is going to be filled with emotion and nerves.”

The Shepparton talent’s new side is very much on the rise, with Richmond continuing to build its list after three seasons in the top tier competition.

In 2020 the Tigers did not win a game, however, with an improved result of three wins in their last campaign it is shaping up to be a big season.

"That’s probably one of the main reasons I chose to go back to the Tigers,“ she said.

“The midfield is pretty elite having Mon (Monique Conti) and Ellie McKenzie in there and Sarah Hosking, so to be able to join them and just build on that it definitely looks promising for the future and making finals and hopefully in a few years’ time winning.

“That (finals) is the benchmark for us this year, they (Richmond) haven’t made finals yet in the three years they’ve been a part of it, but we definitely feel like we’re in the right position to make finals this year and that’s definitely one of the top priorities and goals.”

This season is already shaping up to be one of the biggest AFLW campaigns yet, with all 18 AFL clubs now represented and Egan was amazed by how far the league had come in such a short time.

“For example we played a practice match before the men in round 22 on the MCG,” she said.

“So to be able to have those opportunities finally become real just shows how far it’s come and how far it’s going to go.

“To be able to see that Essendon and Hawthorn are being moved to Marvel (Stadium) is just showing how far the comp’s coming and definitely shows a promising future for the girls coming through for the next generation.”

Still a rising star herself, Egan had plenty of advice for youngsters around the Goulburn Valley, telling them to take every opportunity that comes there way.

She called on people to get along and support their favourite team, with round one of season seven now here.

“I didn’t make it my first year, I definitely didn’t stop there though, I just took every opportunity I possibly could,” she said.

“I never said no to trying and even if you don’t make it the first time you can make it the second or third, so that would be my number one advice to give to any girls that are coming up through the pathway.

“It’d be amazing to see more people and families at the games, especially with the time of year since it’s changed and it’s not so much over the summer.”

https://www.sheppnews.com.au/sport/its-super-exciting-grace-egan-prepares-for-richmond-aflw-debut/

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2022, 05:05:48 AM »
All pundits were in unison on six of the 18 teams making finals: Melbourne, Brisbane Lions, Adelaide Crows, North Melbourne and Richmond.

Experts are tipping the Tigers, who’ve never won more than three games and finished higher than 10th in an AFLW season, to be the big bolter of season seven, with star midfielder Monique Conti a hot chance to win the competition’s best and fairest award.

“They’ll be another improver,” AFLW expert commentator Chyloe Kurdas told foxfooty.com.au.

“Ellie McKenzie is fit and firing, they’ve brought in Grace Egan who’s elite and a good role player through the middle and wins a lot of footy by doing that. The midfield of Egan, Mackenzie and Monique Conti is really exciting for me.

“I think Bec Miller’s rise in the back-half has been outstanding and Courtney Wakefield I think is so underrated for the Tigers. She can stay at home and contest those marking contests, which allows Katie Brennan more freedom to go out into open spaces – that’s the luxury for them.

“I think the Tigers will go close to top-eight this year. They might be one of the two teams that sneak into the eight outside of the foundation clubs.”

FINAL TALLIES

To play finals

9 votes (out of 9) — Melbourne, Brisbane Lions, Adelaide Crows, North Melbourne, Richmond

8 — Collingwood

7 — Fremantle

6 — Western Bulldogs

1 — Geelong Cats, Fremantle, Essendon, Carlton, St Kilda, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast Suns

Premiers

4 votes — Brisbane Lions, Melbourne

1 — Adelaide Crows

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/womens-afl/aflw-predictions-2022-season-seven-who-wins-premiership-flag-fox-footy-tips-best-and-fairest-rising-star-crystal-ball/news-story/e6420e4933e4353feed4a45d898d07eb

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2022, 01:23:41 PM »
The girls will win a couple of games probably early on but ptobably fall away to a 13th place finish.

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2022, 03:58:04 PM »
I like the AFLW, in the same way I like watching TAC cup and even local footy and junior footy and same as watching soccer at Olympics. It is what it is but it's competitive sport.

Give me a close AFLW game over a Round 23 Geelong vs WCE game.

I feel that it'll be another 15 years away until it gets to a peak. This is when the first crop of proper developed pathway of juniors are the veterans of the sport. I think it was 4-5 years ago junior girls footy properly started an elite pathway. So when those girls are in their twilight of their careers will we see full lists of developed players from under 10s to AFLW.

Until then I can still appreciate the contest for what it is. Wanting it to be X is where viewers ruin it for themselves.

Agree with the 15 years. Maybe not quite that long but need the mass of females that have been in development since they were 5 years old. The ball handling skills need to improve across the competition. The males run around from an early age with a ball in hand all the time. It will take some time for the females doing the same thing to filter through

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2022, 06:19:57 PM »
Injury list update:

Player                   Injury      Estimated return

Katie Brennan        Foot              Test

Jess Hosking     Suspension      Round two

https://www.womens.afl/news/99730/injury-list-how-healthy-is-your-team-ahead-of-s7-

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Re: AFLW R1: Richmond vs Geelong @ Kardinia Park, Sun. Aug. 28
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2022, 09:15:26 PM »
The girls will win a couple of games probably early on but ptobably fall away to a 13th place finish.

Can't agree with you Ramps.

I keep saying we have an incredibly soft draw.

There are no excuses in season 7.

We can and should make finals

Yes, I am very bullish about our prospects

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