Tylar Young [merged]

[camboon]

1st pick in the PSD Ivan be used to pick up the best available player left .
West Coast won’t want to waste that pick when they can use a pick in the Nat draft that has little value to them .

[Andyy]

Lots of chatter about this on other forums.

I think their P33 or whatever it is, isn't enough.

He's best 23 and will be in their best 23 also. 27 all season next year, could get 5-8 years out of him if he stays healthy. Should be entering him physical prime etc.

No club walks anyone to the PSD anymore either. I wish people would shut up about it, it simply doesn't happen. CCJ didn't do it, Baker didn't do it, Young WILL NOT do it unless we are asking for pick 1 ffs lol.

I'd be asking for P20 which will slide to 25+

[ajGreen]

Lots of chatter about this on other forums.

I think their P33 or whatever it is, isn't enough.

He's best 23 and will be in their best 23 also. 27 all season next year, could get 5-8 years out of him if he stays healthy. Should be entering him physical prime etc.

No club walks anyone to the PSD anymore either. I wish people would shut up about it, it simply doesn't happen. CCJ didn't do it, Baker didn't do it, Young WILL NOT do it unless we are asking for pick 1 ffs lol.

I'd be asking for P20 which will slide to 25+

He was and would be behind a fit and non suspended:

Balta.
Miller.
Broad.
Gibcus.
Trainor.

The coach seems to have similar thoughts based on his recent comments.

That said I'd be over the moon with a pick like that

[Damo]

Lots of chatter about this on other forums.

I think their P33 or whatever it is, isn't enough.

He's best 23 and will be in their best 23 also. 27 all season next year, could get 5-8 years out of him if he stays healthy. Should be entering him physical prime etc.

No club walks anyone to the PSD anymore either. I wish people would shut up about it, it simply doesn't happen. CCJ didn't do it, Baker didn't do it, Young WILL NOT do it unless we are asking for pick 1 ffs lol.

I'd be asking for P20 which will slide to 25+

You can ask
But it won’t happen

Dreaming

[Andyy]

Lots of chatter about this on other forums.

I think their P33 or whatever it is, isn't enough.

He's best 23 and will be in their best 23 also. 27 all season next year, could get 5-8 years out of him if he stays healthy. Should be entering him physical prime etc.

No club walks anyone to the PSD anymore either. I wish people would shut up about it, it simply doesn't happen. CCJ didn't do it, Baker didn't do it, Young WILL NOT do it unless we are asking for pick 1 ffs lol.

I'd be asking for P20 which will slide to 25+

He was and would be behind a fit and non suspended:

Balta.
Miller.
Broad.
Gibcus.
Trainor.

The coach seems to have similar thoughts based on his recent comments.

That said I'd be over the moon with a pick like that

Balta has been in crap form

Broad is a different size, role and will retire after next year.

Gibcus has played about half a game in two years ffs.

Trainor a kid, also not playing let defender but doing his best footy playing loose or in the pocket etc.

Young paired super well with Miller. Starting 18 and will be in their starting 18, going into his physical prime. Stuffed if I know why some idiots are on their knees ready to lap up P50 odd.

[Tiger Khosh]

Andy he is a 27 year old with 35 afl games to his name, coming off an ACL injury. Not sure what you think is a fair pick for him but in any case we have 0 leverage here. Out of contract and eagles are ahead of us in the draft, if we really want to be difficult here they can and will walk him to the PSD.

And seemingly regardless of whether it’s a pick in the 30s, 40s or 50s it’s just 1 that we will use to grab kellaway so what’s really the difference here?

[Knighter]

Egirls targeted a required player and encouraged him to leave for more $. Pay up or we’ll throw $ at every singlle Victoria kid you recruit starting with Duursma and CDT.

[TigerLand]

Appreciate the passion Andy but I can't see anything under pick 40 being offered. We are only offering 2 year deal? You offer more than that for guys with pick 20 trade value.

I actually think hes true worth is about pick 40-45. If we can somehow convince Eagles that their pick 35 is actually Pick 40 with all concessions and compos, it may get over the line.

[TigerLand]

In terms of best 22, I don't think Tyler is in it.

How many key backs would you ever play 3 max if we include one as a Broad type / intercept marker? 4 defenders and 2 runners.

Balta, Gibcus, Trainor, Miller, Gray

I don't think the last 2 end up playing in a premiership, but on the journey Troy Chaplin style.
Rance - Balta
Grimes - Trainor
Astbury - Gibcus

Miller and Gray as back ups. I don't think Tyler plays if we play Balta properly down back. With Lynch, Faull, Armstrong, Fawcett even Lefau I think we'd be silly to continue to play Balta forward.

[camboon]

I think finishing 4th in the B&F  would suggest  Miller is higher than other key backman and would make you first key backman picked?
Next year is another’s year and an other may improve to take the mantle but on form Miller proved a few wrong

[ajGreen]

Richmond are favorites for the wooden spoon.

Still early days in the rebuild.

You have to find places for gibcus and trainor. Preferably in the backline. When you consider the above factors.

Balta too as Yze has stated.

Miller has played well enough he should be in too - the coach played 4 big defenders in the back six to start last season

[Francois Jackson]

Lots of chatter about this on other forums.

I think their P33 or whatever it is, isn't enough.

He's best 23 and will be in their best 23 also. 27 all season next year, could get 5-8 years out of him if he stays healthy. Should be entering him physical prime etc.

No club walks anyone to the PSD anymore either. I wish people would shut up about it, it simply doesn't happen. CCJ didn't do it, Baker didn't do it, Young WILL NOT do it unless we are asking for pick 1 ffs lol.

I'd be asking for P20 which will slide to 25+

He was and would be behind a fit and non suspended:

Balta.
Miller.
Broad.
Gibcus.
Trainor.

The coach seems to have similar thoughts based on his recent comments.

That said I'd be over the moon with a pick like that

Balta has been in crap form

Broad is a different size, role and will retire after next year.

Gibcus has played about half a game in two years ffs.

Trainor a kid, also not playing let defender but doing his best footy playing loose or in the pocket etc.

Young paired super well with Miller. Starting 18 and will be in their starting 18, going into his physical prime. Stuffed if I know why some idiots are on their knees ready to lap up P50 odd.

  with you on this one.

[Andyy]

Andy he is a 27 year old with 35 afl games to his name, coming off an ACL injury. Not sure what you think is a fair pick for him but in any case we have 0 leverage here. Out of contract and eagles are ahead of us in the draft, if we really want to be difficult here they can and will walk him to the PSD.

And seemingly regardless of whether it’s a pick in the 30s, 40s or 50s it’s just 1 that we will use to grab kellaway so what’s really the difference here?

2nd rounder

They won't walk him to the PSD, I'll buy you a stuffing beer if that happens. CCJ didn't walk, Baker didn't either - why? Why did Norf and WCE pay up when they didn't have to? Clubs just don't do that crap anymore, period.

He's just turned 27 and will be 27 all year next year too. Coming off an ACL sheesh he played a solid strong of games this year, next year he'll be 18-21 months post ACL, not like he hasn't got on the anti grav treadmill yet lol

If the body holds up he's got easily 100-150 games in him.

And people talk about Gibcus F'd if I know why. He had a good debut season that's it, nothing since.

Balta plays like his brain went to jail even though he didn't. I think he'll come good though.

Gray fmd why do people keep talking about him? He's done less than Blight and more injury prone but people talk about him like Kelvin Moore post hip injury.

And any chat about Miller being a depth player is disgraceful. He's our best defender currently and Balta could learn a thing or two from his professionalism and endeavour.

[Andyy]

Appreciate the passion Andy but I can't see anything under pick 40 being offered. We are only offering 2 year deal? You offer more than that for guys with pick 20 trade value.

I actually think hes true worth is about pick 40-45. If we can somehow convince Eagles that their pick 35 is actually Pick 40 with all concessions and compos, it may get over the line.

We matched the 3rd year aspect but not the $$ number hence he asked to go for extra money

[Tiger Khosh]

I would have rather retained him too. He was best 22 and we won’t find out if any of the other names would have displaced him.

That’s a moot point now though as he’s decided to go to the eagles.

The question is what west coast should give up to get him and I don’t think your being very realistic here.

The 2 examples you brought up are very different.

The CJ deal had a lot of wink wink nudge nudge about it as it was done at the same time we brought Tarrant in so the compo pick was also forming part of the negotiation.

Baker was a multiple premiership player and had a loyalty/affection to the club that I don’t think young comes anywhere near matching. Also we had a higher pick than the eagles as we finished last so they couldn’t walk him as we could just take him ahead of them.

You may be on the money that it doesn’t really happen anymore but I don’t expect us to play hard ball here.