Non-Richmond games 2023

[Andyy]

Should get 4 weeks if the Tribunal is consistent. The Eagles player was concussed.

How is that careless but not intentional?

These are usually called careless as intentional is hard to prove unless a player thumps someone way off the ball. For intentional, the Tribunal would have to prove De Goey deliberately intended to bump the Eagles player in the head.

Thanks that makes a lot of sense.

I was just thinking we'll obviously he bumped him intentionally...

[one-eyed]

De Goey got 3 weeks.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/944938/the-verdict-is-in-de-goey-learns-his-tribunal-fate

[one-eyed]

Reasons for decision:

Penalty is a matter to be determined in our discretion, but we are mindful of the need for consistency with the table of penalties that apply for classifiable offences.

The table provides that this combination of gradings results in a sanction of ‘three-plus matches’. That is, three or more matches.

We take into account the following factors in particular:

1.        There was considerable force in the bump due to the speed at which Hewett was moving and the acceleration of De Goey
2.        Hewett suffered a concussion

3.        Hewett had disposed of the ball immediately before he was bumped

4.        The bump was late, but due to the speed at which both players were moving, it was a split second late. We find that the breach of the duty of care was clear, but not egregious

5.        De Goey has expressed remorse and we consider this to be genuine

6.        De Goey has accepted that the impact was severe

In all the circumstances, we do not consider the matter requires a higher sanction than the three weeks base sanction that applies for this grading.

This was another head injury that was avoidable. A three-match is an appropriate sanction for this careless, rough conduct.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-2023-tribunal-live-updates-latest-news-jordan-de-goey-hit-on-elijah-hewett-fate-match-review-penalty-liam-duggan-dangerous-tackle/news-story/ae174cadc46fd76007be22851f4db92e

[mightytiges]

So a shoulder charge to the head < poorly executed tackle  .

De Goey got off lightly especially as the AFL rep. wanted 4 weeks like Broad got. 

[Damo]

So a shoulder charge to the head < poorly executed tackle  .

De Goey got off lightly especially as the AFL rep. wanted 4 weeks like Broad got.

You continuously reference back to Broad
Reckon you need to come to grips with just how putrid that tackle was. Far worse than other sling tackles you have referenced.

As for De Goey. Stewart is a far better guide and Stewart’s was worse. Personally I think Stewart should have got 5-6 and De Goey 4.

But with Stewart getting 4, then 3 is almost the mark

[mightytiges]

So a shoulder charge to the head < poorly executed tackle  .

De Goey got off lightly especially as the AFL rep. wanted 4 weeks like Broad got.

You continuously reference back to Broad
Reckon you need to come to grips with just how putrid that tackle was. Far worse than other sling tackles you have referenced.

As for De Goey. Stewart is a far better guide and Stewart’s was worse. Personally I think Stewart should have got 5-6 and De Goey 4.

But with Stewart getting 4, then 3 is almost the mark

The AFL and its Tribunal said it would judge these cases which result in concussion to an opponent more severely this year. Giving De Goey 3 because Stewart only got 4 last year isn't that. I agree btw Stewart also got off lightly and should have got 6 weeks. That sniping was straight out of the 70s/80s.

Players have also known for years that if you choose to bump/snipe and get the opponent high you'll be in trouble let alone if you concuss them and take them out of the game. The crackdown on sling tackles is relatively new by comparison. Only 2-3 years ago it would've been classed as a strong tackle and nothing to see here. Broad's 4 weeks was meant to send a message to the rest of the comp. that if you concuss an opponent by your own stupid actions then you'll cop a severe penalty. Yet tonight the Tribunal has gone light.

Broad concusses his opponent = 4 weeks
McAdam doesn't concuss his opponent = 3 weeks
De Goey concusses his opponent = 3 weeks
Pickett doesn't concuss his opponent = 2 weeks

Seems the old "star player gets treated more leniently" factor was/is in play.


The AFL counsel tonight brought up Broad as a precedent by the way and wanted 4 weeks. It was the Tribunal that took the week off.

Woods (AFL) says the league took into account De Goey's guilty plea when deciding on a proposed ban of four matches.

Woods (AFL) says there is similarity (but not the same incident) with Shane McAdam's bump on Jacob Wehr in Round 1.

That was three matches. Woods says the injury to Hewett here means it should be bumped up to four matches.

Woods (AFL) points to Nathan Broad's dangerous tackle on Patrick Parnell, which received a four-match ban.

Reasoning from Tribunal then: Players must do all they reasonably can not to cause avoidable injuries to their fellow players.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-2023-tribunal-live-updates-latest-news-jordan-de-goey-hit-on-elijah-hewett-fate-match-review-penalty-liam-duggan-dangerous-tackle/news-story/ae174cadc46fd76007be22851f4db92e

[Francois Jackson]

Absolutely laughable. All I’m reading is genuine remorse this and that.

This is an out and out joke. So this year they were supposed to be going harder then the penalty should have been 4 weeks.

Broady even Bachir copped 4, this bloke shows “remorse” and gets 3. Pathetic

[Diocletian]

Would've been in more trouble if he just groped the bloke....

[Francois Jackson]

Or called him King Kong. That would have been be 8 weeks

A bump to the head is no biggie  as long as he shows remorse.

[mightytiges]

Let's hope St Kilda's skills are like this next week against us. Swans are just as bad tonight.

Just 1 goal and 1 behind between two teams in a whole quarter. And I thought last Friday's night game was a low scoring shocker. This is uber worse  . The stupid Stand rule is really boosting scoring .

[mightytiges]

Saints get two 50m and goals due to the Stand Rule to change the momentum of the game and the lead in the last quarter. While they were both there technically under the rules now, that's not why we watch footy .

[one-eyed]

Given Blakey was concussed, Butler may be rubbed out by the MRO and miss our game.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1666781686401765378

[Andyy]

Given Blakey was concussed, Butler may be rubbed out by the MRO and miss our game.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1666781686401765378

Will be disgusted if that's a suspension.

Butler had him dead to rights and got a HTB free as appropriate.

No malice or excessive force whatsoever. This is a legitimate 'thats just footy' moment.

[WilliamPowell]

Given Blakey was concussed, Butler may be rubbed out by the MRO and miss our game.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1666781686401765378

Will be disgusted if that's a suspension.

Butler had him dead to rights and got a HTB free as appropriate.

No malice or excessive force whatsoever. This is a legitimate 'thats just footy' moment.

Butler didn't get HTB, it was paid as a dangerous tackle

He will likely get rubber out

It is so wrong on so many levels

I keep saying it

The game is stuffed 

[Chuck17]

Given Blakey was concussed, Butler may be rubbed out by the MRO and miss our game.

https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1666781686401765378

Will be disgusted if that's a suspension.

Butler had him dead to rights and got a HTB free as appropriate.

No malice or excessive force whatsoever. This is a legitimate 'thats just footy' moment.

Butler didn't get HTB, it was paid as a dangerous tackle

He will likely get rubber out

It is so wrong on so many levels

I keep saying it

The game is stuffed 

Quoted for truth