Who of our young players are good enough ?

[Simonator]

I'm all for the half rebuild / topping up with the likes of hopper and taranto list strategy we are attempting at the moment, but I think it relies heavily on the young talent we have coming through actually making it at AFL level. I know for some of these players its a small sample size and there's a chance they could turn it around but I have serious doubts about some after what I've seen so far. Due to our injuries we are getting a really good look at a couple.

Ross - Could be a decent role player
Rioli - Could be a decent role player
Ralphsmith - Wont make it IMO
Dow - Wont make it IMO, BUT does deserve a block of games this year.
Brown - Doesnt seem like he's progressing at VFL level
Mansell - Wont make it IMO
Ryan - I think he will stick around due to our complete lack of KPF but again wont make it IMO
Bradtke - havent seen enough
Cumberland - Could be a star
Colina - 0 Chance of making it
Sonesie - Could be a decent role player, could be a star.
Banks - Same as Brown
Clarke - Wont make it IMO
Bauer - Apparently having some success in the backline, havent seen enough
Miller - could be a decent role player
Young - could be a decent role player
Biggie - wont make it imo
Gibcus - Could be a star
 Then green, campbell and smith who I havent seen enough of.


So out of all of our young players we have Sonesie, Gibcus and Cumberland who could be stars. We need better young talent.
If you think of the start of our successful era we had such a good core of drafted players in Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty, Astbury, Grimes, Edwards, Vlastuin and im probably forgetting a few.. So we either bottom out and hit the draft for a few years or hope we can attract younger players every off season. Looks like the club is aiming for the latter but im not sold.

[Tigeritis™©®]

Ross - Could be a decent role player - jury’s out for me maybe he just a very good vfl player

Rioli - Could be a decent role player - has the worst kicking skills from an aboriginal player I’ve ever seen but his closing speed and tackling is the best I’ve seen.

Ralphsmith - Wont make it IMO - has some good attributes but undoes his good by turning it over. Needs to learn how to kick on the run or he won’t make it.

Dow - Wont make it IMO, BUT does deserve a block of games this year. too soft like his brother can’t see it

Brown - Doesnt seem like he's progressing at VFL level - apparently this kid has what it takes.

Mansell - Wont make it IMO - love his aggression but he’s not an AFL level player I’m not sure he ever will be.

Ryan - I think he will stick around due to our complete lack of KPF but again wont make it IMO - I hope I’m wrong and this kid makes it.

Bradtke - havent seen enough - project players are a raffle

Cumberland - Could be a star - needs a tank otherwise he’ll be our version of Rohan the 5 minute man of the AFL.

Colina - 0 Chance of making it - think of the most untalented player you’ve ever seen and they are still miles better than this guy - whatever the club can see I cannot see it because this bloke is the physical definition of an unfootballer.

Sonesie - Could be a decent role player, could be a star. - persist think he has the skill

Banks - Same as Brown - haven’t see enough

Clarke - Wont make it IMO - needs to toughen up he looks soft and timid (Fiora vibes)

Bauer - Apparently having some success in the backline, havent seen enough - he looks significantly comfortable in defence and seems to read the play very well.

Miller - could be a decent role player - fringe top up backup player

Young - could be a decent role player  - fringe top up backup player

Biggie - wont make it imo - I would love to see the club develop him into a ruckman

Gibcus - Could be a star - will be a star

[MintOnLamb]

Where is Steely Green in this list? I thought he was meant to be it and a bit.

We seem to have drafted a lot of players of the same body type or is that a poor observation on my part???

75 kg, 180 cm, no real speed, seems like a trend….

Like the Fiora pick over Pavlich

Or the Buddy pick we missed

I just wonder if the same influencer from those days is still at the club in a position of power???

[Jonesracing82]

I'm all for the half rebuild / topping up with the likes of hopper and taranto list strategy we are attempting at the moment, but I think it relies heavily on the young talent we have coming through actually making it at AFL level. I know for some of these players its a small sample size and there's a chance they could turn it around but I have serious doubts about some after what I've seen so far. Due to our injuries we are getting a really good look at a couple.

Ross - Could be a decent role player
Rioli - Could be a decent role player
Ralphsmith - Wont make it IMO
Dow - Wont make it IMO, BUT does deserve a block of games this year.
Brown - Doesnt seem like he's progressing at VFL level
Mansell - Wont make it IMO
Ryan - I think he will stick around due to our complete lack of KPF but again wont make it IMO
Bradtke - havent seen enough
Cumberland - Could be a star
Colina - 0 Chance of making it
Sonesie - Could be a decent role player, could be a star.
Banks - Same as Brown
Clarke - Wont make it IMO
Bauer - Apparently having some success in the backline, havent seen enough
Miller - could be a decent role player
Young - could be a decent role player
Biggie - wont make it imo
Gibcus - Could be a star
 Then green, campbell and smith who I havent seen enough of.


So out of all of our young players we have Sonesie, Gibcus and Cumberland who could be stars. We need better young talent.
If you think of the start of our successful era we had such a good core of drafted players in Jack, Rance, Cotch, Dusty, Astbury, Grimes, Edwards, Vlastuin and im probably forgetting a few.. So we either bottom out and hit the draft for a few years or hope we can attract younger players every off season. Looks like the club is aiming for the latter but im not sold.

Can't judge Brown as he's been injured & hasn't played a game at VFL level all yr thus far.

[Francois Jackson]

what was brown like last year?

I agree lets see him at senior level but what ive seen is not great.

Banks will be a better player IMO.

Why we have recruited fiora type players like Clarke , Mansell, HRS is beyond me. All 3 are average.

[the claw]

Lets just say people here are correct and i agree with them what does that say about our recruiting and our decision to trade out of not one but two drafts recently. The clear inference is someone or people have got it wrong but hey the club doesnt make mistakes.

[Simonator]

Today certainly didn’t help anyone on this list, including sonesie. I know it’s just one game but still.. we have very little talent coming through and that’s the scariest part of all this

[Willy]

Yep. Cupboard is bare.

Sonsie has been crap this year.

Looks timid.

[pmac21]

Cumberland will fade into obscurity.  More a mental thing I reckon.
Hugo, Sonsie, Clarke are all soft. 
Gibcus will be good
Need to see Banks & Brown at senior level. 
Mansell - no
Biggy, has talent need to see him more
Ryan - going ok. 
Couldn't be bothered with any others.

[WilliamPowell]

I don't think we know

And until they get a run of games we will never know

Time to play then all, give them all a batch of multiple games

Not 2 or 3 give them a block so we can see

[Simonator]

I don't think we know

And until they get a run of games we will never know

Time to play then all, give them all a batch of multiple games

Not 2 or 3 give them a block so we can see

Have mansell and ralphsmith not had a fair go ? Fair enough with the others but these 2 in particular have had chances

[WilliamPowell]

Have mansell and ralphsmith not had a fair go ? Fair enough with the others but these 2 in particular have had chances

I'm not Hugo fan, far from it TBH but seeing our season is done. I'd rather give him a block of 5-6 games playing in one position.  To see once and for all if there is anything there.

As for Mansell, I honestly don't know. He's played 21 games and for reasons I don't understand they've decided to try convert him into a forward this year. Give him  5 in row and see if it has chance of working

Yes they've been given opportunities unlike others who are no longer here were but this jury is still out on them.

[Broadsword]

Yeah kinda wish we could chuck RCD into the middle now and see what he's made of.

[the claw]

I don't think we know

And until they get a run of games we will never know

Time to play then all, give them all a batch of multiple games

Not 2 or 3 give them a block so we can see

Ah finally. Trouble is i think nothing will change until Hardwick is gone. He is just too invested in the older blokes he has bought thru.
We also need to ensure we play the kids in their best roles when we do give a block of games.

[Francois Jackson]

Yeah kinda wish we could chuck RCD into the middle now and see what he's made of.

remember when everyone blamed him and George for our troubles, especially the latter.

How wrong they were.