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« Reply #345 on: August 12, 2023, 11:57:27 PM »
First name on Richmond’s coaching short list revealed

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12 August 2023


Interim Richmond coach Andrew McQualterhas made it on to the short list to take up the full time job at Punt Road, even as he remains on task in keeping the club’s slim finals hopes alive.

Richmond is keen to lock in a replacement for Damien Hardwick by the end of the season to allow the new coach full access to player movement post-season and informed candidates on Friday it had trimmed down its list of contenders.

McQualter made that short list, having guided the Tigers to a 6-4 record in his 10 games in charge since Hardwick stepped away.

“It’s progressed and I got some information yesterday that I have been short-listed for the job and the next stage and we will figure out where it goes from there,” McQualter said on Saturday.

But the stand-in coach said he was still focused on getting Richmond to the finals, with the Tigers needing to win each of their final three games to be a chance.

That run begins with a clash against St Kilda on Sunday at Marvel Stadium.

“It can’t (distract me), I just don’t allow it to,” McQualter said.

“It is not about me. We have just got a job to do as a team and a club. We have a great coaching staff and we are working together each week to help the team and I just can’t make it about me right now.”

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-st-kilda-v-richmond-all-the-news-in-the-build-up-to-huge-clash-at-marvel/news-story/6cd5f13bc3dd74a51c616c3450526ee6

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« Reply #346 on: August 12, 2023, 11:58:52 PM »
Port assistant withdraws from race as Tigers' coaching shortlist narrows

By Callum Twomey
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12 August 2023


PORT Adelaide assistant Josh Carr has chosen not to take part in the race for Richmond's vacant senior coaching position as the Tigers narrow their hunt for Damien Hardwick's replacement.

Carr is understood to have informed the Tigers of his intentions on staying at Port Adelaide, the club he joined at the end of last season and where he is highly rated.

It is understood there are a handful of candidates who have been shortlisted for the next part of the process, with Hawthorn assistant coach Chris Newman among that group. The former Richmond skipper has grown his coaching resume across eight seasons with the Hawks, including coaching Box Hill in the VFL. 

Candidates who have experience coaching their own team is expected to be a factor in the Tigers’ search, with Essendon's Daniel Giansiracusa, Collingwood's Hayden Skipworth and Gold Coast's Steven King among the other assistants who have steered their own team at different levels, as well as McQualter's current stint at Richmond.

Carr was brought back to the Power after being an assistant coach at Fremantle, having also played 83 games for the Dockers as well as 124 for Port.

He has headed the Power's star midfield unit this season working under senior coach Ken Hinkley, with club president David Koch saying this week the Power were likely to settle on an extension for Hinkley ahead of the finals with Port sitting in the top four.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1006271/port-assistant-withdraws-from-race-as-tigers-coaching-shortlist-narrows

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« Reply #347 on: August 13, 2023, 07:55:45 AM »
Carr is a stuffwit. Hope he withers on the vine at Port and wins nothing

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« Reply #348 on: August 13, 2023, 09:46:06 AM »
Yep.

He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh



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« Reply #349 on: August 13, 2023, 09:56:08 AM »
All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh

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« Reply #350 on: August 13, 2023, 10:04:37 AM »
Yep.

He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh

So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting
All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh

Agree

No point in wasting people's time
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« Reply #351 on: August 13, 2023, 01:09:11 PM »
Yep.

He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh

So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting
All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh

Agree

No point in wasting people's time

the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.

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« Reply #352 on: August 13, 2023, 01:11:08 PM »
Yep.

He probably the nudge nudge from port, but he probably knows we will hire mcqualter anyway so what's the point applying. :shh

So you and a few others are questioning the integrity of the people selection panel in particular Benny Gale then? Because that's what you are basically suggesting
All good- only people who believe they can achieve greatness need apply. Whatever the reason Carr decided to remove himself from the process is a win for the Club as we cant waste time on tire kickers. :shh

Agree

No point in wasting people's time

the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.

What standards in your eyes have we dropped?

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« Reply #353 on: August 13, 2023, 01:20:53 PM »


the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.

See that's the issue here.

If McQualter gets the job based on him bring the best candidate you won't believe it and you will bag him, the club unmercifully

Clearly the Club cannot win here
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« Reply #354 on: August 13, 2023, 02:03:21 PM »
Newy shortlisted now too. Hopefully we can add a few with no ties to Richmond lol

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« Reply #355 on: August 13, 2023, 02:12:34 PM »
"Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good...."

- Thomas Sowell


FJ is the only one that makes sense.

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« Reply #356 on: August 13, 2023, 02:28:40 PM »


the standards have certainly dropped at our club, so yes. Lets see shall we.

See that's the issue here.

If McQualter gets the job based on him bring the best candidate you won't believe it and you will bag him, the club unmercifully

Clearly the Club cannot win here
No WP, the club can't win here.  But just think of the 'I told you so' value to be gained for some ...   
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« Reply #357 on: August 13, 2023, 02:33:59 PM »
I don’t mind the idea of newy. Would have learned a bit from Sam Mitchell too

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« Reply #358 on: August 13, 2023, 02:35:02 PM »
Newy shortlisted now too.


JFC   :facepalm

Given he’s been involved in such successful eras both on and off field I completely see why  ::)
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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« Reply #359 on: August 13, 2023, 03:07:40 PM »
Bulletproof or bust? Why Tigers shouldn't be afraid of an untried coach

By Nathan Schmook
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13 August 2023


RICHMOND should not be reluctant to replace its triple-premiership coach with the right untried assistant, according to former senior coach Brenton Sanderson, given the calibre and experience of potential first-time applicants.

Stability in key roles around Damien Hardwick's eventual replacement will be crucial, however, to make sure the Tigers' next coach has the best chance at emulating his predecessor.

Interim senior coach Andrew McQualter and Port Adelaide senior assistant Josh Carr had been viewed as frontrunners for the position, although AFL.com.au reported on Saturday that Carr had pulled out of the race and will instead stay at the Power.

While Carr has withdrawn, there remains a long list of assistants available with "bulletproof" CVs that have been built over more than a decade.

Sanderson, who coached Adelaide between 2012 and 2014 as a first-time coach, experienced early success when he led the Crows to a preliminary final in his first season as a 38-year-old.

He also endured instability thereafter, however, which ultimately contributed to his tenure ending after three seasons.

Now a respected analyst of the game, the 209-game Geelong defender said the right scenario at Richmond would lend itself to a first-time applicant having a successful career as senior coach.

"There should be no apprehension at all if the selection committee find someone who they think is the perfect fit, despite them being a first-time coach. I think they should go for it," Sanderson told AFL.com.au.

"I think there are some great young coaches and first-time coaches out there who all have great experience in the game.

"While they may not have coached an AFL club before, in my opinion that shouldn't in any way be seen as a negative.

"Every great senior coach has had to start somewhere as a first-time coach, whether it's Kevin Sheedy, Damien Hardwick or Alastair Clarkson.

"You learn the hard way … and their clubs have invested in them, kept faith, and they've gone on to become premiership coaches."

As well as Carr and McQualter, the AFL's next group of rising assistants includes Troy Chaplin (Melbourne), Daniel Giansiracusa (Essendon), Jaymie Graham (Fremantle), Ash Hansen (Carlton), Steven King (Gold Coast), Chris Newman (Hawthorn), Hayden Skipworth (Collingwood) and Adem Yze (Melbourne). 

Troy Chaplin addresses his players during Melbourne's clash with Richmond in round 20, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Sanderson said the work that assistant coaches now do to build their credentials put them in the best possible position to succeed.

"I only coached for five years as an assistant before I became an AFL coach, but I just thought at the time that I was ready," Sanderson, who started with Port Adelaide under Mark Williams before joining Mark Thompson's panel at Geelong, said.

"I think every coach would say they were well prepared and ready if they were offered a role, despite their experience.

"But there are coaches now doing short courses at Harvard, sports courses overseas, and getting mentored by some absolute greats of the game.

"They're looking to build a CV that is almost bulletproof before they put their hand up to go for a role."

Reflecting on his own experience, Sanderson said the keys for a first-time senior coach were stability and alignment with the board and football manager, an ability to appoint some assistant coaches straight away, and a shared vision with the strength and conditioning and recruiting/list departments.

"The first year is normally pretty good, because they are all the people who helped you get the role," the 49-year-old said.

"But it's when there is instability in other areas of the club, whether that's the footy department, sports science, if the board changes, or you have a new director of footy.

"When those roles change outside your control, and if you don't see eye to eye or there are clashes, that just provides enormous challenges for a coach who is learning his way."

Sanderson was able to recruit a trusted lieutenant in former Geelong defender Darren Milburn when he was appointed, as well as ex-Port Adelaide colleague Dean Bailey, whose own tenure at Melbourne had just finished.

However, Bailey tragically lost his battle with cancer in 2014, while the Crows made changes to their head of football and chief executive roles in the same year before a review of the club's football operations.   

There were also changes to the Adelaide board and different views on the club's direction, with Sanderson and the Crows parting ways in September 2014, despite the coach having two seasons to run on a contract.

Sanderson was replaced by Phil Walsh, who was tragically killed halfway through his first season in charge in 2015.

In the nine years since Sanderson departed, there have been 15 coaches appointed to their first senior jobs by AFL clubs, with seven of them still in place.

A further five – Chris Scott, Ken Hinkley, John Longmire, Adam Simpson and Luke Beveridge – were appointed to their roles before the end of 2014 and remain at that same club, having shared five premierships.

For Sanderson, there is a lesson in the stability those coaches have enjoyed at different stages of their coaching careers that will be crucial for the next group of first-time applicants.

"I think that's where you look at a strong footy program and a strong club [that knows] if you invest in someone and you make a decision that this is going to be our long-term senior coach, then keep investing in them and keep backing them in," Sanderson said.

"Have the hard conversations if you feel like they are losing focus of the club values and their own values.

"But ultimately the clubs that keep investing in their senior coach and keep putting really good people around them are ultimately the ones who have the most success long term."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1004536/bulletproof-or-bust-why-richmond-tigers-shouldnt-be-afraid-of-an-untried-coach