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Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« on: July 17, 2023, 04:17:31 PM »
AFL Round 19

RICHMOND vs Hawthorn


Saturday, 22nd July @ the M.C.G.

Start time: 1:45 pm


Odds (Sportsbet):
Richmond    $1.35
Hawthorn    $3.23

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/4943

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2023, 10:20:47 PM »
Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
The simple fact is we no longer dominate sides and even games against cellar dwellars are troublesome.
Fmd our two biggest wins are against wce twice and while most other good sides were thumping them we can only win by 46 and 38 points.

We are yet to play NM and i shudder to think of the reaction if we manage to lose to them.

Ok a different perspective. We lose 5 in a row and look horrible but aint timing everything we get the most depleted side in the comp if not history injury wise in the eagles and can only win by 46 points.

We then get Geelong at home who are also reeling from injury and manage a win. Yep timing aint it grand.

Then a dream time loss followed by what i would call a very good effort against port at home. so far we aint beating too many teams that arent injured or above us.

We then beat GWS in a game that could have gone either way. Then Fremantle in Perth which was not great given where the dockers are now.

Then a win against StKilda as they hit a bad patch. Then finally we hit a top 4 team with out injury and we get belted.
Coming off this back to timing. We then get Sydney at home a team who had also been struggling with injuries and it was on the line with less than two minutes remaining.
Then lucky us we get the eagles again and yep we struggle and cannot get a much needed big percentage boost.

Now before everyone carries on like pork chops as usual, im playing devils advocate here and just giving the other perspective.
Yes our 5 game losing streak coincided with injuries but fmd our fwd line has become a laughing stock with just the loss of one player.
That has to tell supporters that all is not well surely.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2023, 10:53:29 PM »
I think your assessment of our wins is poor.

Beating Geelong is never easy.
GWS are a good team under Kingsley. That's was a tough win on the road against a competitive side.
Freo not as tough but on the road second game in a row too.
Saints are top 6 and although they choke they're definitely not worse than us IMO.
Swans yeah they're not great either but hardly cellar dwellers too, more of a 10-14 side I think.

The port loss was close and the only hiding we've got was from Brisbane at the Gabba, fit and healthy and always wanting to prove a point to us.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2023, 11:35:56 PM »
Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.


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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2023, 09:10:56 AM »
Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.
The simple fact is we no longer dominate sides and even games against cellar dwellars are troublesome.
Fmd our two biggest wins are against wce twice and while most other good sides were thumping them we can only win by 46 and 38 points.

We are yet to play NM and i shudder to think of the reaction if we manage to lose to them.

Ok a different perspective. We lose 5 in a row and look horrible but aint timing everything we get the most depleted side in the comp if not history injury wise in the eagles and can only win by 46 points.

We then get Geelong at home who are also reeling from injury and manage a win. Yep timing aint it grand.

Then a dream time loss followed by what i would call a very good effort against port at home. so far we aint beating too many teams that arent injured or above us.

We then beat GWS in a game that could have gone either way. Then Fremantle in Perth which was not great given where the dockers are now.

Then a win against StKilda as they hit a bad patch. Then finally we hit a top 4 team with out injury and we get belted.
Coming off this back to timing. We then get Sydney at home a team who had also been struggling with injuries and it was on the line with less than two minutes remaining.
Then lucky us we get the eagles again and yep we struggle and cannot get a much needed big percentage boost.

Now before everyone carries on like pork chops as usual, im playing devils advocate here and just giving the other perspective.
Yes our 5 game losing streak coincided with injuries but fmd our fwd line has become a laughing stock with just the loss of one player.
That has to tell supporters that all is not well surely.
Have a look at the Hawks/North game, it was no great game of football either.  North were insipid. 

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2023, 10:18:13 AM »
I think your assessment of our wins is poor.

Beating Geelong is never easy.
GWS are a good team under Kingsley. That's was a tough win on the road against a competitive side.
Freo not as tough but on the road second game in a row too.
Saints are top 6 and although they choke they're definitely not worse than us IMO.
Swans yeah they're not great either but hardly cellar dwellers too, more of a 10-14 side I think.

The port loss was close and the only hiding we've got was from Brisbane at the Gabba, fit and healthy and always wanting to prove a point to us.

WC were only missing Yeo, Liam Ryan and a 33 year-old Nic Nat. Hardly depleted. out of form. for sure but hardly a second string

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2023, 10:20:30 AM »
Collingwood only beat the eagles by 60 . Game was tight at 3 quarter time .  It’s a folly to assess wins by margin .

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2023, 10:34:52 AM »
Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.


No need to state this. We all know you will be tipping/barracking for the opposition every week.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2023, 12:12:24 PM »
Straight up gone to the Hawks.


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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2023, 05:07:20 PM »
Straight up having gone to the tiges v eagles game im tipping the Hawks.


We will win

I think he should do the old Louy the Lip dare “if the tigers win, I’ll belt myself in the face with my flogger”
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2023, 04:40:38 PM »
Whilst finals are well and truly out of the question for Hawthorn, Richmond coach Andrew McQualter didn't doubt how competitive his upcoming opponents can be.

"We know that their best footy can be really, really dangerous. They can be fast and attack, they defend really well. So that's what we're preparing for," McQualter told reporters at Punt Road on Thursday.

"We think we've got lots of room to grow, so we're enjoying the challenge at the moment. We're still conceding too many entries against us."

https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-aware-of-hawthorn-threat-as-mitchell-eyes-perfect-opportunity-to-impact-finals-race-140114/

Hawthorn coach Sam Mitchell is eager for his team to "take a chunk" out of its higher-placed rivals during the final six rounds, and Richmond is first on the hit list.

"Richmond is a perfect opportunity for us to see if we can start to beat some teams who are in front of us on the ladder."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/982707/hawks-targeting-bigger-scalps-in-tough-run-home

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2023, 10:19:42 PM »
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Despite winning five of seven under caretaker coach Andrew McQualter, Richmond has entered ‘must-win’ territory this season.

The Tigers, who sit 11th on the ladder and two points outside the eight, were made to work hard for their 38-point victory over West Coast in Perth last weekend.

They take on Hawthorn who occupies 16th position on the back of an inaccurate 48-point win over North Melbourne having dropped their previous three matches.

Richmond has seen an uptick in form from the likes of Dustin Martin, Shai Bolton and Dion Prestia over the last month with the likes of Tim Taranto, Dan Rioli, Nick Vlastuin and Liam Baker keeping on as their most consistent performers.

Sam Mitchell’s Hawks have been served well by their improving midfield unit consisting of Jai Newcombe, James Worpel, Will Day and Conor Nash, while Karl Amon has also found form of late. They will get Rising Star nominee Seamus Mitchell back for this.

Noah Balta appears a good matchup for the dangerous Mitch Lewis down one end, while Luke Breust is a constant source of goals for the Hawks and will draw a decent defender in the form of Dylan Grimes or Nathan Broad.

At the other end, the Tigers have not been reliant on a particular forward by frequently sharing the load and having midfielders get in on the goal kicking act.

With more on the line, their stars in good form and a better head to head record of late (winning three of the last four including a draw), the Tigers have enough in their favour to see off the Hawks in Saturday’s first game.

But it won’t be easy.

Tip: Richmond by 14 points.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/20/who-will-win-and-why-the-predictions-and-tips-for-round-19-1/

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2023, 11:31:59 AM »
THE CERTAINTIES FOR ROUND 19

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Richmond versus Hawthorn

Martin to have 20+ disposals, kick 1+ goal

Dustin Martin has a nice record against Hawthorn over the years.

Over 14 career games against the Hawks, he has averaged 27 disposals and kicked 13.10.

In his last four outings, ‘Dusty’ has been showing signs of his very best. He has averaged 29 touches and kicked 3.5 in that time.

We’re backing the 32-year-old to gather at least 20 disposals and kick at least one goal this weekend.

Breust to kick 2+ goals

Luke Breust always seems to bob up against Richmond.

He has kicked 11.5 in his last five outings against the Tigers and has a career tally of 30.9 in 14 games.

The 32-year-old has kicked 31 goals this year at an average of more than two per game, leading the way for the Hawks.

Breust has booted two or more in nine of 15 games this year and looks primed to return at least a pair at the MCG on Saturday afternoon.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/07/22/the-16-certainties-for-the-rest-of-round-19-1/

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 19, 2023
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2023, 01:17:57 PM »
NO LATE CHANGES

SUBSTITUTES
Richmond: Matthew Coulthard
Hawthorn: Ned Long

https://www.afl.com.au/news/982388/final-teams-locked-in-for-tigers-hawks-live-from-1-45pm-aest