Jacob Koschitzke - officially a Tiger for pick 49 [merged]

[pmac21]

Burgess was traded to the Crows

[Tiger Khosh]

Sounds like we’re just giving up a future third.

[Diocletian]

Still reckon we should grab Sellers from Norf's VFL. 

[Francois Jackson]

we dont have much choice and he is very low risk for me. Fills a need and that Is an understatement.

[one-eyed]

Can Richmond get its replacement in the forward line (Jacob Koschitzke) to work alongside Tom Lynch?

There have been a few roadblocks in the Koschitzke move to Punt Road, but surely the Hawks come to the party so they can move on to securing Mabior Chol and potentially Jack Gunston to partner Mitch Lewis.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-all-the-big-news-deals-to-be-done-as-wednesday-deadline-nears/news-story/4e34ab20affd0672d5768691f6adda7e

[one-eyed]

Hawthorn want Pick 27 for Jacob Koschitzke.

Richmond do not want to trade pick 27 for Koschitzke but rather trade Pick 50

There would also be complications as pick 50 won’t be used due to the lack of good back end talent in the draft

Would a future pick get it done?

https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1713414210062024817

[the claw]

Burgess was traded to the Crows

Not the point we need to do more than just Koschitzke. Its not all about next year its about 2026 and beyond.
Koschitzke is a good move that may or may not work  but boy could we do with another mature type as back up. We needed to be developing a pile of young kpfs from everywhere 5 years ago.

I always keep thinking what key forwards we have only two,they  are in the team already but we have not had key forwards pushing from the two,s in god know how long.

In an ideal world we would have had a 22 23 year old now ready to fill Jacks boots, in an ideal world we would have a reasonably experinced back up player in the two's guiding a young key fwd or two creating genuine depth.
We would have a promising young kpf with games behind him.

If we had gone after tall forwards the way we have tried small fwds we probably would not have a problem now.

The attitude has to be okay its a ND pick after 40 or 50 its late and the odds are against. its a rookie pick or a psss msd pick with all of them it doesnt matter if they work out or not odds are most will fail but take enough and you will find your share of good players eg the Bradtke experiment.

[the claw]

The lack of good list management will mean they get desperate and pay what Hawthorn want.
Have we put all our eggs just in the Koschitzke basket this off season . Looks like it. No imagination and probably still dont acknowledge where we are at.
Just watch us draft with what picks we have more smalls. You can bet on it.

Time to send out the message we are no longer prepared to be bent over and have long memories.

One answer is to set our fwd line up  with Lynch, Balta, and Ryan and if not Ryan, Bauer.

Not ideal but a means to an end.

Tall defenders then become Young, Grimes, Gibcus Broad  and Miller again not ideal. But its easier to find tall defenders than tall fwds so use pick 27 on the best available tall.

Its funny the hawthorn list of talls is mostly a list of players taken after pick 52 which is where Koschitzke was taken.
Msd Rookie drafts late nd ssp all what you would generalise as  late picks with all clubs having several opportunities to pick them up.
They have just two tall players taken inside the top 20 Grainger - Barass at 6 and he is struggling and Josh Weddle taken at pick 18 and managed 17 games last year having been taken in 2022.

The point they show you can find good talls late you just have to take a chance and be prepared for a few failures.

[MintOnLamb]

The lack of good list management will mean they get desperate and pay what Hawthorn want.
Have we put all our eggs just in the Koschitzke basket this off season . Looks like it. No imagination and probably still dont acknowledge where we are at.
Just watch us draft with what picks we have more smalls. You can bet on it.

Time to send out the message we are no longer prepared to be bent over and have long memories.

One answer is to set our fwd line up  with Lynch, Balta, and Ryan and if not Ryan, Bauer.

Not ideal but a means to an end.

Tall defenders then become Young, Grimes, Gibcus Broad  and Miller again not ideal. But its easier to find tall defenders than tall fwds so use pick 27 on the best available tall.

Its funny the hawthorn list of talls is mostly a list of players taken after pick 52 which is where Koschitzke was taken.
Msd Rookie drafts late nd ssp all what you would generalise as  late picks with all clubs having several opportunities to pick them up.
They have just two tall players taken inside the top 20 Grainger - Barass at 6 and he is struggling and Josh Weddle taken at pick 18 and managed 17 games last year having been taken in 2022.

The point they show you can find good talls late you just have to take a chance and be prepared for a few failures.

I know you don’t like him but Miller can also fit in there somewhere.
Hawthorn can po and be stuck with the k man on their list

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I don’t think we need to nickle and dime this trade. It will end up being for a pick in the late 30’s …. this year or next and we’re going to get something similar for Soldo. I have noticed we’ve stopped with the “if he wants to leave, we’ll let him he owes us nothing” rhetoric

[Andyy]

I don’t think we need to nickle and dime this trade. It will end up being for a pick in the late 30’s …. this year or next and we’re going to get something similar for Soldo. I have noticed we’ve stopped with the “if he wants to leave, we’ll let him he owes us nothing” rhetoric

I see him as our best backup option for Nank who is basically guaranteed to be injured at some stage, unless Ryan can slam on 5-10kg over summer.

Difference is that Soldo is contracted and Kosi isn't.

Hawks wanting a mid-2nd is laughable for an uncontacted bloke offered 1 year on about $150k. Plenty of them had him in a delist pile.

Soldo despite his limitations has never been on a delist pile IMO and every club in the league would be happy to have a 2nd backup ruck like him. All clubs want 1 primary ruck and 1 backup but rarely play 2 proper rucks unless one of them is useful forward so there seems to be an ongoing merry go round of 2nd tier rucks looking for better money and opportunity.

[MintOnLamb]

I don’t think we need to nickle and dime this trade. It will end up being for a pick in the late 30’s …. this year or next and we’re going to get something similar for Soldo. I have noticed we’ve stopped with the “if he wants to leave, we’ll let him he owes us nothing” rhetoric

I see him as our best backup option for Nank who is basically guaranteed to be injured at some stage, unless Ryan can slam on 5-10kg over summer.

Difference is that Soldo is contracted and Kosi isn't.

Hawks wanting a mid-2nd is laughable for an uncontacted bloke offered 1 year on about $150k. Plenty of them had him in a delist pile.

Soldo despite his limitations has never been on a delist pile IMO and every club in the league would be happy to have a 2nd backup ruck like him. All clubs want 1 primary ruck and 1 backup but rarely play 2 proper rucks unless one of them is useful forward so there seems to be an ongoing merry go round of 2nd tier rucks looking for better money and opportunity.

Koschitzke doesn’t have to sign a contract with hawks, just tell him not to sign and we pick him up. Any problem with that??

[JP Tiger]

It's nice that Koschitzke has asked to be traded to us, but do we owe anything to him for his nice gesture?   
If he falls through the draft we can take him for nothing ...   

[one-eyed]

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1713714597075804545

 

[Andyy]

I don’t think we need to nickle and dime this trade. It will end up being for a pick in the late 30’s …. this year or next and we’re going to get something similar for Soldo. I have noticed we’ve stopped with the “if he wants to leave, we’ll let him he owes us nothing” rhetoric

I see him as our best backup option for Nank who is basically guaranteed to be injured at some stage, unless Ryan can slam on 5-10kg over summer.

Difference is that Soldo is contracted and Kosi isn't.

Hawks wanting a mid-2nd is laughable for an uncontacted bloke offered 1 year on about $150k. Plenty of them had him in a delist pile.

Soldo despite his limitations has never been on a delist pile IMO and every club in the league would be happy to have a 2nd backup ruck like him. All clubs want 1 primary ruck and 1 backup but rarely play 2 proper rucks unless one of them is useful forward so there seems to be an ongoing merry go round of 2nd tier rucks looking for better money and opportunity.

Koschitzke doesn’t have to sign a contract with hawks, just tell him not to sign and we pick him up. Any problem with that??

No, except any club could take him with a psd pick before us if they want t a kpf