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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #795 on: November 12, 2024, 01:03:07 PM »
I don't get RCD vibes from Smillie.

Smillie has been talked about anywhere from P1-5 most of the year for good reason.

RCD was taken at P20 in a shallower draft.

Plus RCD was taken as more of a project, not ready made, always a risk, but one we could afford at the time, being in the premiership window.

That's a fabrication. He was a decent junior that didn't come on whatsoever. Not a project at all

Agree AT, definitely not a project player

I would have liked to see RCD fpgiven a go with a new coach, think he may have thrived

Have spoke to Chutney many times about RCD and Chut has always said the same thing,  kid never stood a chance with Dimma at he helm. Wasn't a Dimma fav
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #796 on: November 12, 2024, 01:39:21 PM »
I don't get RCD vibes from Smillie.

Smillie has been talked about anywhere from P1-5 most of the year for good reason.

RCD was taken at P20 in a shallower draft.

Plus RCD was taken as more of a project, not ready made, always a risk, but one we could afford at the time, being in the premiership window.


If we took RCD at pick 20 as a project player that shows very poor judgement.

Project players should be much later in the draft not the first round.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #797 on: November 12, 2024, 01:46:19 PM »
I don't get RCD vibes from Smillie.

Smillie has been talked about anywhere from P1-5 most of the year for good reason.

RCD was taken at P20 in a shallower draft.

Plus RCD was taken as more of a project, not ready made, always a risk, but one we could afford at the time, being in the premiership window.

That's a fabrication. He was a decent junior that didn't come on whatsoever. Not a project at all

Agree AT, definitely not a project player

I would have liked to see RCD fpgiven a go with a new coach, think he may have thrived

Have spoke to Chutney many times about RCD and Chut has always said the same thing,  kid never stood a chance with Dimma at he helm. Wasn't a Dimma fav

Agreed.

Got half the chances Dow has so far, and IMO showed more.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #798 on: November 12, 2024, 02:30:45 PM »
I don't get RCD vibes from Smillie.

Smillie has been talked about anywhere from P1-5 most of the year for good reason.

RCD was taken at P20 in a shallower draft.

Plus RCD was taken as more of a project, not ready made, always a risk, but one we could afford at the time, being in the premiership window.

That's a fabrication. He was a decent junior that didn't come on whatsoever. Not a project at all

Agree AT, definitely not a project player

I would have liked to see RCD fpgiven a go with a new coach, think he may have thrived

Have spoke to Chutney many times about RCD and Chut has always said the same thing,  kid never stood a chance with Dimma at he helm. Wasn't a Dimma fav

May be the case, but he hasn't dominated state league footy either since leaving

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #799 on: November 12, 2024, 05:24:27 PM »
My understanding was after missing out on Fyfe and the 190cm+ midfielders (Cripps, Pendlebury, Fyfe and bont) being all the rage, we picked rcd to try and fit that mould. In an ideal world we would have been able to nab Tom green. Damn those academy rules

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #800 on: November 12, 2024, 06:36:23 PM »
I don't get RCD vibes from Smillie.

Smillie has been talked about anywhere from P1-5 most of the year for good reason.

RCD was taken at P20 in a shallower draft.

Plus RCD was taken as more of a project, not ready made, always a risk, but one we could afford at the time, being in the premiership window.


If we took RCD at pick 20 as a project player that shows very poor judgement.

Project players should be much later in the draft not the first round.

Depends on the logic. Some might argue Rance was a project player - came in at roughly the same pick, has some great attributes but needed work and developed over time. Took him what 3 or so seasons to start making his mark and then kablama tango
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #801 on: November 13, 2024, 06:41:12 PM »
Your club's draft picks for the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

Richmond: 1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 23, 24
Adelaide: 4, 64, 78
Brisbane: 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 58
Carlton: 3, 38, 63, 68, 69, 71
Collingwood: 52, 55, 60, 66, 82
Essendon: 28, 31, 40, 46, 53, 54, 65
Fremantle: 14, 30, 67, 81, 89
Geelong: 45, 57, 74, 84
Gold Coast: 39, 41, 51, 61
Greater Western Sydney: 15, 16, 21, 37, 56, 73
Hawthorn: 33, 70, 75
Melbourne: 5, 9, 79
North Melbourne: 2, 62, 76, 86
Port Adelaide: 13, 29, 36, 50
St Kilda: 7, 8, 32, 47, 80, 88
Sydney: 19, 22, 44, 59, 85, 91
West Coast: 12, 26, 72, 77, 87, 92
Western Bulldogs: 17, 25, 35, 48, 83, 90

https://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-order

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The official draft order is in from the AFL ahead of next week's national draft. A total maximum of 92 selections are available, however it is still expected somewhere between 63-72 picks are taken across the two nights.


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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #802 on: November 13, 2024, 06:55:35 PM »
20 top prospects have received invites to the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft 🤩

Levi Ashcroft
Finn O'Sullivan
Harvey Langford
Sam Lalor
Jagga Smith
Sid Draper
Josh Smillie
Murphy Reid
Alixzander Tauru
Harry Armstrong
Tobie Travaglia
Bo Allan
Leo Lombard
Isaac Kako
Xavier Lindsay
Joe Berry
Jack Whitlock
Matt Whitlock
Jobe Shanahan
Sam Marshall

https://x.com/AFL/status/1856583406790049928

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #803 on: November 13, 2024, 07:06:13 PM »
Sharp-shooting and ‘big mark’ young guns dream of: Meet the AFL Draft’s prized forward pick - Jobe Shanahan

After bursting onto the VFL scene at barely 18 years of age, Jobe Shanahan is ready to “crack in early” with whichever AFL club is lucky enough to select him in this year’s draft.

Standing at 195cm with a contested mark most young key forwards dream of, the Moama product is shaping as one of, if not the first key forward, to be picked up next week.

Describing himself as a centre-half forward who “crashes packs, takes big marks (and is) a pretty good set shot” — it’s no surprise there is an air of confidence that comes with Shanahan’s presence.

Speaking with foxfooty.com.au’s Ben Waterworth in the lead up to the national draft, Shanahan believes his game has developed considerably throughout 2024 — which in the end allowed for senior opportunities alongside AFL stars.

Full article: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2024-jobe-shanahan-ready-for-life-as-an-afl-footballer-played-vfl-with-essendon-following-harley-reid-moama-key-forward-interview-latest-news/news-story/6b5e645b3fbef574b1b70d0f8bfd103c

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #804 on: November 13, 2024, 10:22:51 PM »
20 top prospects have received invites to the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft 🤩

Levi Ashcroft
Finn O'Sullivan
Harvey Langford
Sam Lalor
Jagga Smith
Sid Draper
Josh Smillie
Murphy Reid
Alixzander Tauru
Harry Armstrong
Tobie Travaglia
Bo Allan
Leo Lombard
Isaac Kako
Xavier Lindsay
Joe Berry
Jack Whitlock
Matt Whitlock
Jobe Shanahan
Sam Marshall

https://x.com/AFL/status/1856583406790049928

I always find this fascinating who gets invited. No way Marshall goes top 20. Hotton should be there.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #805 on: November 13, 2024, 10:24:02 PM »
Sharp-shooting and ‘big mark’ young guns dream of: Meet the AFL Draft’s prized forward pick - Jobe Shanahan

After bursting onto the VFL scene at barely 18 years of age, Jobe Shanahan is ready to “crack in early” with whichever AFL club is lucky enough to select him in this year’s draft.

Standing at 195cm with a contested mark most young key forwards dream of, the Moama product is shaping as one of, if not the first key forward, to be picked up next week.

Describing himself as a centre-half forward who “crashes packs, takes big marks (and is) a pretty good set shot” — it’s no surprise there is an air of confidence that comes with Shanahan’s presence.

Speaking with foxfooty.com.au’s Ben Waterworth in the lead up to the national draft, Shanahan believes his game has developed considerably throughout 2024 — which in the end allowed for senior opportunities alongside AFL stars.

Full article: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2024-jobe-shanahan-ready-for-life-as-an-afl-footballer-played-vfl-with-essendon-following-harley-reid-moama-key-forward-interview-latest-news/news-story/6b5e645b3fbef574b1b70d0f8bfd103c

Big fan of Job.

If we miss out on Jobe and Harry I'll find it very hard to be happy with our draft hail. Would have to have some worldie sliders to be OK without at least 1 of these boys.
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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #806 on: November 13, 2024, 10:44:23 PM »

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #807 on: November 13, 2024, 10:54:08 PM »
Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' November ranking

Remember, this is a ranking of the best prospects and does not take into account where bids on father-son or Academy players will come or where the players will necessarily get selected.

1. Levi Ashcroft           18/12/2006    179cm   Midfielder                    Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
2. Finn O'Sullivan        30/05/2006     182cm   Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Country
3. Harvey Langford      15/03/2006    190cm    Midfielder                  Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country
4. Jagga Smith            28/01/2006    181cm    Midfielder                  Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro (+1)
5. Sam Lalor               30/08/2006    187cm    Midfielder                  GWV Rebels/Vic Country (-1)
6. Murphy Reid            30/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
7. Sid Draper              05/07/2006    180cm    Midfielder                   South Adelaide/SA
8. Alixzander Tauru      16/11/2006   193cm    Tall Defender             Gippsland Power/Vic Country (+1)
9. Josh Smillie             17/05/2006    194cm   Midfielder                   Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-1)
10. Harry Armstrong    14/06/2006    195cm    Tall Forward              Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
11. Bo Allan                16/02/2006    191cm    Midfielder/Defender    Peel Thunder/WA (+1)
12. Tobie Travaglia       26/10/2006    187cm    Defender                  Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country (-1)
13. Leo Lombard         05/10/2006    178cm    Midfielder                  Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
14. Isaac Kako             07/03/2006   175cm    Small Forward           Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
15. Joe Berry               18/04/2006   180cm    Small Forward           Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+3)
16. Taj Hotton             17/06/2006    182cm    Midfielder/Forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
17. Xavier Lindsay        03/08/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Gippsland Power/Vic Country (-1)
18. Jack Whitlock         16/05/2006   200cm    Key Forward              Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+1)
19. Luke Trainor          10/04/2006    194cm    Defender                   Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro (-2)
20. Jobe Shanahan       02/08/2006   194cm    Tall Forward               Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
21. Jesse Dattoli           07/07/2006   179cm    Forward/midfielder     Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+3)
22. Cooper Hynes        28/02/2006    190cm   Midfielder/Forward      Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
23. Sam Marshall         19/01/2006    185cm   Midfielder                   Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies (-1)
24. Matt Whitlock         16/05/2006   199cm  Key Forward/Defender  Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
25. Jonty Faull              01/02/2006   195cm    Tall Forward               GWV Rebels/Vic Country 
26. Harrison Oliver       15/06/2006    181cm    Defender                  Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
27. Oliver Hannaford    01/09/2006    180cm    Small Forward            GWV Rebels/Vic Country (+1)
28. Alex Dodson           15/06/2006   203cm    Ruckman                   Sturt/SA (+1)
29. Christian Moraes     08/11/2006   183cm    Midfielder                  Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (+1)
30. Tom Gross             15/09/2006    181cm   Midfielder/Forward      Oakleigh Charges/Vic Metro (-3)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1255008/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-november-ranking

Dropped out of Top 30

Thomas Sims          12/05/2006   199cm    Tall Forward               Northern Knights/Vic Metro (from #30 in August)
Noah Mraz              20/02/2006   198cm  Tall Defender/Forward   Dandy Stingrays/Vic Country (from #30 in July)

Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide July extra: The next best

Jasper Alger                 17/12/2006   182cm       Forward                  Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
Ned Bowman                12/09/2006   186cm       Forward                  Norwood/SA
Ben Camporeale           21/07/2006   186cm       Midfielder                Glenelg/SA
Angus Clarke                08/05/2006   188cm       Defender                 Glenelg/SA
Adrian Cole                  05/01/2006   195cm       Tall defender            Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Josh Dolan                  11/11/2006   177cm      Midfielder/forward     Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro
Charlie Nicholls            08/06/2006   197cm   Tall forward/defender   Central District/SA
Harry O'Farrell             03/05/2006   196cm       Tall defender            Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Logan Smith                24/09/2006   204cm       Ruckman                 GWS Academy/Allies

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1179982/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-july-extra-the-10-next-best

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #808 on: November 13, 2024, 10:58:46 PM »
According Callum Twomey on Gettable:

https://www.afl.com.au/video/1255348

* Crows most likely to jump up to pick 2 if it happens.

* We won't be jumping up. More likely to jump out with our later picks. Could trade pick 24 (first of 2nd night) for a future 1st from a top club. With all our departures though we'll need to use most of our picks to fill our list back up.

* Pick 1 between Lalor and FOS with Jagga Smith an outsider. Twomey hasn't ruled out FOS at pick 1.

* Smillie linked to us at pick 6 according to every other club. Could slip to pick 10.

* Unlikely Bo Allen getting to the Eagles at pick 12. We're seen as a home for Allen. Could even grab him at pick 6 hoping then to grab Smillie at 10.

* Jagga Smith won't get past us if he's still on the board.

* We're not strongly linked to Draper even if he fell to pick 6.

* Shanahan linked to us at picks 10-11.

* Armstrong a chance at pick 10-11.

* Wouldn't be shocked if Jack Whitlock is called out by us at pick 10-11.

* We've done our work on Tauru.

* We may bid on Lombard and/or Kako at 10-11.

* Langford in the range 2-7.

* Travaglia in the range 8-15.

* Trainor - top 20 mark. Us, Swans or Dogs.

* Hotton - around our picks 18-24 mark.

* Faull - another around our pick 18 amongst other clubs in that range.

* We like Joe Berry but that will more from pick 18 onwards.

* Dattoli within our range last first round. First night prospect.

* Harry Oliver - we may look at him at either pick 20, 23 or 24 if we keep those picks.

* Dodson linked to us because others think with 8 picks we'll spread out choice of positions and go for a ruck at 24.

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Re: 2024 AFL draft
« Reply #809 on: November 14, 2024, 07:07:14 AM »
Why the stuff would we trade pick 24 to a top club for a future first which essentially is the same pick in a standard draft. Give me a break.

Trade with north is what I'm hoping. Give them pick 11 or 18. For 2 and next yrs 1st.

What has happened to this deal as it appears it's gone cold according these so called experts
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