Delistings?

[the claw]

Martin, Grimes, Naismith, Pickett. Retired
Bolton, Rioli, Baker, Graham. Trades and F/A.

Thats 8. Gray and Blight to list proper  thats 6 nd picks.

8 draft picks likely in the range of 1 thru 22. Need to cut 2.
Then we have great scope in the Rookie mid season and pre season drafts take two and mid season lti. need to cut 4
Then we have trades in the right age quality bracket at least 1 maybe 2. Makes 6  cuts.
Also we must be looking at potential state league players apparently we have two already in our vfl squad take one . makes 7.

So seven delistings who are they.

Coulthard 23yo done very little.
McIntosh 31yo way past it both age and performance.
Young 26yo limited kpd
Sonsie 22yo chronic underachiever.
Colina 25yo sheesh.we are kidding aren't we.
Cumberland 24yo another chronic underachiever
Dow 23yo never shown himself to be at the level.
Short 29yo trade him out and pay a chunk of his salary if need be. This is # 8 but imo we need to get this cancer out of the door.

[Assange Tiger 😎]

Sonsie is 21 and been at the club 3 years. Will get another year. Young is contracted

[WilliamPowell]

Sonsie is 21 and been at the club 3 years. Will get another year. Young is contracted

Sonsie is also contracted

[Diocletian]

Sonsie's also contracted so he'll definitely be here next year...(EDIT:WP beat me to it)also if we delist everyone this year who do we delist next year given we're probably going to have to hit at least the next two drafts after this pretty hard as well before Tassie comes in....

[Andyy]

Sonsie and Young aren't at risk yet.

I'd be keeping kmac for now.

Short open to trade.

[the claw]

Sonsie is 21 and been at the club 3 years. Will get another year. Young is contracted

Sonsie is 22 in January  before the start of the next season. He has shown sweet bugger all is timid afraid of contact and imo is a poor runner. If he was not pick 28 i think a lot would be calling for his head.

We have had him three seasons and for me that is enough. If he overcomes his weaknesses and manages to make it in another system so be it.

One lesson learnt mainly  from the pre Hardwick years and including those years i suppose, was we hung on in hope to players rather than with certainty.

Young is certainly superfluous to needs didnt realise he was contracted but would see if anyone was prepared to take him on.

We are going to give Blight a year and we have Miller and Young. Options to play Balta and Bauer so its down to one of the first three.
Would be finding out what we could get for Miller. I fear what we have seen so far is his ceiling.

Sonsie and Young aren't at risk yet.

I'd be keeping kmac for now.

Short open to trade.

McIntosh has become the defininition of list clogger. Campbell, Trezise, HRS, Banks, Smith, Travaglia or a running type in the draft.
Playing all of them instead of McIntosh. If we play him in a running role in front of all of them then we will really be defining list clogger taking games off kids.

As much as i would like it to be done even if we paid half his wage no one will want Short. One can only hope.

We could delist trade retire as many as eight right at this point in time Next year. we are either all in on rebuild or we are not.

If we have something like eight ND picks between 1 and 22 and don't use them then we are getting it horribly wrong.
If we do not look at a player trade or two to upgrade then we are getting it wrong.

If we are not making provision for useing the #1 picks  psd and rookie drafts  on mature types say 21 thru 24yo then we are getting it wrong. Same for the msd.

If we dont shop players out and pay part of their salary then we will be getting it wrong.

The only way to achieve this in what has to be one of the better most even drafts of all time is to make those hard decisions on who has to go.

We have two drafts before they become compromised so yes there should be a sense of urgency.

[Andyy]

You've always hated the bloke!

There are developing players who need to go past him but with our retirements and trades this year it would be a foolish thing to delist KMac with his mature body. If the kids are pushing him out he should just play some VFL games next year.

We will still have plenty of spots available once we do the trades and delist some proper dead weight in Dow, Coulthard, Colina at a minimum. That's 3 spots. Add Dusty, Grimes, Pickett, Naismith, Graham, Baker, Bolton, Rioli.

11 spots total.

Sonsie and Young aren't at risk yet.

I'd be keeping kmac for now.

Short open to trade.

McIntosh has become the defininition of list clogger. Campbell, Trezise, HRS, Banks, Smith, Travaglia or a running type in the draft.
Playing all of them instead of McIntosh. If we play him in a running role in front of all of them then we will really be defining list clogger taking games off kids.

As much as i would like it to be done even if we paid half his wage no one will want Short. One can only hope.

We could delist trade retire as many as eight right at this point in time Next year. we are either all in on rebuild or we are not.

If we have something like eight ND picks between 1 and 22 and don't use them then we are getting it horribly wrong.
If we do not look at a player trade or two to upgrade then we are getting it wrong.

If we are not making provision for useing the #1 picks  psd and rookie drafts  on mature types say 21 thru 24yo then we are getting it wrong. Same for the msd.

If we dont shop players out and pay part of their salary then we will be getting it wrong.

The only way to achieve this in what has to be one of the better most even drafts of all time is to make those hard decisions on who has to go.

We have two drafts before they become compromised so yes there should be a sense of urgency.

[Diocletian]

To be fair to old mopsy claws he was actually a big supporter of Sir Runs-Alot to start with and was one of the first to call for him to picked in the seniors....

[the claw]

To be fair to old mopsy claws he was actually a big supporter of Sir Runs-Alot to start with and was one of the first to call for him to picked in the seniors....

REALLY i don't recall making much comment on Short until about 2018.
Oh well goes to show as i have argued i dont write players off early. Vaguely remember prefering him to Brandon Ellis and what a great comparison.

On this note im gunna have a read of the Short thread for fun.

[Diocletian]

To be fair to old mopsy claws he was actually a big supporter of Sir Runs-Alot to start with and was one of the first to call for him to picked in the seniors....

REALLY i don't recall making much comment on Short until about 2018.
Oh well goes to show as i have argued i dont write players off early. Vaguely remember prefering him to Brandon Ellis and what a great comparison.

On this note im gunna have a read of the Short thread for fun.

Was referring to McIntosh.....

[Diocletian]

Blight, Smith & Trezise just re-signed for 1 year so it won't be them.....at least until next year....

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I heard somewhere KMac has been told we won’t decide on him until after the trade period

[WilliamPowell]

I heard somewhere KMac has been told we won’t decide on him until after the trade period

You'll find he's just one, there's a couple in that bracket

[the claw]

To be fair to old mopsy claws he was actually a big supporter of Sir Runs-Alot to start with and was one of the first to call for him to picked in the seniors....

REALLY i don't recall making much comment on Short until about 2018.
Oh well goes to show as i have argued i dont write players off early. Vaguely remember prefering him to Brandon Ellis and what a great comparison.

On this note im gunna have a read of the Short thread for fun.

Was referring to McIntosh.....

Of course my bad.
Yep i was a fan of him as junior but as a tall running defender. We all get some wrong.

It won't go down well with him playing in premierships,  but with hindsight he should have been delisted after year 4 or 5 we went close on a few occasions but somehow he survived.

Too many ordinary role players is really biting us on the arse now and we find it hard to get rid of those who played in flags despite putrid form.

[camboon]

After we lose 5 this year , we won’t have too many left and most of the kids at this stage are below the level of ordinary , I suspect  we will have a lot more heartache  without these premiership players. Unless we have a better option they will stay on the list to at least look after the kids.