List analysis

[one-eyed]

This was posted on twitter/X:

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"This is the positional breakdown. Only position I’m content with is Fullbacks"


https://x.com/doonie_demon/status/1840365501421134058

[Loui Tufga]

Looks rank 

[TigerLand]

18th next year and Pick 1, let the top end talent rain.

The next Cotchin, Dusty, Jack, Rance, Edwards, Vlastiun are on their way.

[the claw]

KPD - Gibcus, Balta, Miller, Blight 23,  Young. The last three underwhelming. Numbers are fine two quality but the rest who knows.
TALL DEF - Broad 31, Bauer as a utility. Brown maybe pigs don't fly..Plays like a medium. Where is Grimes replacement in all this.
If Bauer plays forward we dont actually have a third tall defender on the list.
MED DEF - Vlastuin 30, Trezise, Brown maybe its true pigs do not fly.. Definately we could do with a quality hb here if not two.
SML DEF - Short 29, Smith.If we had a brain we would be peeing Short off. Only really Smith going fwd and who knows if he will make it. would like another hb here as well.

Take out two 30 plus year olds in Vlastuin and Broad and its getting dire.

KPF  - Lynch 32 , Lefau, Koschitzke, Gray, Fawcett, None of quality after Lynch. Need two quality KPF'S. Need to draft at least one this coming draft

TALL FWD - Bauer utility. If hes a defender then one more is a must.

MED FWD - Cumberland 24. Delist. Scary to think at 183cm he is the only medium forward we have. Talk about list deficiency.

SML FWD  - Rioli 22, Campbell 20, Mansell 24, Green 21, Clarke 21 , Coulthard 23. None of them have shown anything more than a few good signs. Where is the quality. Campbell to date the most likely but as a mid imo.

INSIDE MIDS - Taranto, Hopper, Prestia, Dow. McAuliffe. Delist Dow, Prestia retires end of 2025. No real power or burst inside mid  with speed.Give me Sid Draper and Sam Lalor.

OUTSIDE MID - Ross, Sonsie. Imo Sonsie will be gone at the end of 2025. Desperate for quick skillfull ball users who will get some ball for themselves.

It is scary scary ordinary.

WINGERS - HRS, Banks, McIntosh 30. Two have done sweet stuff all and the other if he was such a good clubman would retire because he has been so shizen. We need some quality wingers.

RUCKS - Nankervis 30, Ryan 24 will he make it???. Two freakin basketballers what are the odds ?. This coming draft or f/a  we could do with another Genuine ruckman.

The question is how do we address so many list shortcomings?

If players have serious question marks about them regardless of age then you do not have a solution to the problem at hand until someone actually consistently steps up.

[Diocletian]

Just remember claw you now have a specific thread to post your list analyses in so you can finally stop posting them in every other thread you contribute to.....

[MintOnLamb]

Well I am thinking a good haul this year and with a bit of luck we could start a good core group.
At least we have 3 recent flags.

Take a look at the cliff Collingwood is about to fall off!!

[TigerLand]

This is how the comp is designed. Happens to all clubs bar Sydney (academy loophole) and Geelong (Cotton on loophole, luck and probably just good administration).

Only difference will be whether we do a GWS/Hawthorn or an Essendon/Crows one. North I'm convinced will be an absolute dominant side, let's not forget Melb and Lions were a basket case for 4 years each. We need to go through this and start a foundation of elite top end talent.

Apart from
B: Balta, Gibcus, Brown
M: Taranto, McAullife, Ross, HRS
F: Clarke, M.Rioli

The rest are just warming the lockers for next generation.

Maybe/Unknowns
B: Trecize
M: Sonsie,
F; Fawcett, Campbell

Our ruck stocks look ordinary but historically our best rucks have been trade ins. Nank, Maric, Stafford, even Dear. Ottens and Soldo only ones we've drafted and developed.

Id be recommending an absolute MUST is ensuring we draft Armstrong or Shanahan. Even hope a Whitlock is available in 2nd round to snap up 2 gun key forwards. Not many premiership teams are made without one or two gun key fwds
Hawks Buddy/Rough
Cats Hawkins/Mooney/JPod
Eagles JPK/Darling
Tiges Jack / Lynch (could argue 2017 we were smallest to win one with only Jack)
Pies had Miochevk and Cox who prob are exception to rule
Dees had Brown (Coleman medalist) and McDonald. Not amazing but still had em.
And now Lions with Daniher, Hipwood and Morris.

Speaking of Morris I hope Joe goes around again. Id throw the kitchen sink at Morris. Absolute star in making.

Draft wise focus on elite mids first, then ensure we get Armstrong or Shanahan. Even both.

[Andyy]

I'm not sold on Gibcus purely because he hasn't been able to stay fit. Hopefully he's doing a Grimes.

McAuliffe also an unknown despite good VFL showing. MRJ I'd also say is warming a locker unless he pulls a finger out. Clarke too.

Campbell has shown enough to convince me it'll take a long time to get him out of the best 23.


Probably guaranteed starters med-long term:
B: Balta
M: Taranto, Ross, HRS,
F: Campbell, Brown, Mansell (yes, even mansell)

Warmers: Bauer, Green, Smith, Hopper, Kosi, Miller, Young

TBA: Banks, Blight, Clarke, Gibcus, Gray, Ryan, Sonsie, Trezise

Everyone else is either approaching retirement or haven't even debut'd or shown enough to make me think they should be in the TBA group lol.

[the claw]

Im 100% sold on Gibcus. You cannot predict injury. As far as talent goes he is an absolute gem.

If unsure about him recovering from injury then it would be very prudent to get our hands on another quality kpd just in case.
No point relying on Miller or Young we have seen plenty of them and atm they are more cover than starters. Blight is probably in the same basket.

[WilliamPowell]

Saw Gibcus at the AFLW last week, asked how he was going post reco and said really well. On track for round 1 2025

[Andyy]

Saw Gibcus at the AFLW last week, asked how he was going post reco and said really well. On track for round 1 2025

Thanks for that, finally some good news.

Did Meehan come up? Or conditioning/recovery strategies changing etc?

[tdy]

I think we should draft a crap load of KPD because they take the longest to develop, assuming we are buying a ruckman again some day. I really hope they take no small forwards. Take only Mids and defenders and if there is a buddy take him.

[one-eyed]

"I like the fact they have Taranto in their team. I think he's been a great player for them, and the injuries he has had have been outside of his control...

Hopper still has time to be a successful acquisition for them. They have the inside area covered, if they could find a McKercher and a Windsor in this draft that would be a great start."

- Josh Jenkins

https://x.com/traderadio/status/1846061801991250215

[Hard Roar Tiger]

"I like the fact they have Taranto in their team. I think he's been a great player for them, and the injuries he has had have been outside of his control...

Hopper still has time to be a successful acquisition for them. They have the inside area covered, if they could find a McKercher and a Windsor in this draft that would be a great start."

- Josh Jenkins

https://x.com/traderadio/status/1846061801991250215

Agree with this.

[Diocletian]

Should still attend centre bounces when required but I'd play Taranto forward more in the Graham's old role, he'd be a massive upgrade plus we need to start getting more midfield minutes into the younger brigade and not just the new toys but the likes of McAullife, Sonsie and even Ross.......