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Why Richmond must be wary despite putting together an “all-time draft hand”

By Lachlan Geleit
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12 Oct 2024


Richmond could be set to put together one of the ‘all-time great draft hands’ according to SEN regular and Nine’s Tom Morris.

As things stand, the Tigers already hold Pick 1 and 24 inside the first 25 picks but could add another six in that bracket with Daniel Rioli, Liam Baker and Shai Bolton all set to depart the club with picks coming back the other way.

With a glut of selections in a supposedly strong draft, the 2024 off-season could be the launching pad for Richmond to truly rebuild just a few years after winning three premierships in four seasons.

While it appears a golden opportunity for the Tigers, Morris thinks they should seriously consider trading some of those selections for early picks in the 2025 Draft instead to spread out their incoming youngsters and ensure they’re not all out of contract at once.

He discussed Richmond’s draft plans and how he expects the club to attack their off-season with Garry Lyon on SEN Breakfast.


Morris: “Richmond are putting together one of the all-time great draft hands if they can be shrewd here.

“My information is the Tigers don't want to really start trading in earnest until at the very least Friday, but probably next week.

“They could easily bundle up Pick 32, 42, 43 and 45 for Brisbane’s Pick 20 which is up for sale because they need points for Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall.”

Lyon: “Jay Clark is reporting that Richmond could have Picks 1, 6, 10, 14, 18, 20, 23, 24 - that’s potentially what Adem Yze and the list management group are going to have at their disposal.

“Is that a good thing? Where does it sit?”

Morris: “I think that's a good thing, but you just need to be wary. The Giants went through this, if you have too many first-round picks in one year, what happens is in three or four years' time, they all come out of contract at the one time.

“Then you've all got to pay them absurd amounts of money to keep them, and you can’t keep them all, which is what happened to the Giants.”

Lyon: “Aren't you going to the negative here? Saying, ‘Oh, the problem is we're going to have all these great players’, what a great problem to have.”

Morris: “Yeah, until you lose half of them because you can't afford them, so do it (use the first-round picks) over two years.

“I would say do it over two years and stagger it. Have four first-round picks one year and four first-round picks the next year - that’s your rebuild - rather than eight in one year.

“That’s, I think, what the Tigers could be looking at.”

The 2024 AFL Draft begins on Wednesday, November 20 at Marvel Stadium.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/10/10/why-richmond-must-be-wary-despite-putting-together-an-all-time-draft-hand/

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Funny the different sides to this story constantly.

On one hand we are collecting the draft hand of God, on the other we should except 6 for Rioli, 10, 18 for Bolton and pick 26 for Baker.

6, 10, 18 and 26

To be

1, 6, 10, 18, 24 and 26.

Id like to think we get 10, 11 and 18 for Bolton and Baker and Pick 6 has an exchange of late picks that gives GC more points. GC Pick 41 for all of our last 3 picks which are 51, 60 and 70 odd. 41 likely to go up 3-4 places because of the number of picks GC, Lions and Blues will use on F/S and academy. So Picks 6, 41 for Rioli and picks 51, 60, 70.

Draft haul:
1, 6, 10, 11, 18, 20, 24, 41
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Geez Tom Morris!  You draft 5 or 6 kids because you have the draft hand to do it, but does that mean they all finish their contracts at the same time & then you can't afford to re-sign them?  Idiot! 
Find 1 or so standout players & offer to extend their contracts early by a year or two, staggering the expiration of a bunch of contracts ... it aint rocket science Tom ...    ::)

It's also a fantastic problem to have with a simple enough solution, not a negative stress out session. 

It would happen every year in every club that many player contracts run out in the same year!  This is why clubs employ list managers, Tom ...     :wallywink

It makes me wonder how Tom manages to chew & breathe at the same time .... 
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Geez Tom Morris!  You draft 5 or 6 kids because you have the draft hand to do it, but does that mean they all finish their contracts at the same time & then you can't afford to re-sign them?  Idiot! 
Find 1 or so standout players & offer to extend their contracts early by a year or two, staggering the expiration of a bunch of contracts ... it aint rocket science Tom ...    ::)

It's also a fantastic problem to have with a simple enough solution, not a negative stress out session. 

It would happen every year in every club that many player contracts run out in the same year!  This is why clubs employ list managers, Tom ...     :wallywink

It makes me wonder how Tom manages to chew & breathe at the same time ....
And we have players retiring etc like lynch, McIntosh, short and in 4 years time Taranto etc

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Geez Tom Morris!  You draft 5 or 6 kids because you have the draft hand to do it, but does that mean they all finish their contracts at the same time & then you can't afford to re-sign them?  Idiot! 
Find 1 or so standout players & offer to extend their contracts early by a year or two, staggering the expiration of a bunch of contracts ... it aint rocket science Tom ...    ::)

It's also a fantastic problem to have with a simple enough solution, not a negative stress out session. 

It would happen every year in every club that many player contracts run out in the same year!  This is why clubs employ list managers, Tom ...     :wallywink


This shows his level of intelligence, what a goose.  :lol :lol



It makes me wonder how Tom manages to chew & breathe at the same time ....

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Tom is an idiot.

GWS and GC lost players because destination clubs came calling.
I don't expect any of these kids to be poached for a better offer that Richmond can't afford. It's why list management is crucial and mixed with front and back ended contracts.

I mean 2017-2020 we had
Cotchin
Martin
Riewoldt
Rance
Prestia
Caddy
Nank
Lynch
Bolton
Edwards
Houli
Vlastiun

All would have been on decent dollars. 12 players and I've probably missed a few on good coin. Maybe Grigg, Grimes, Astbury on good coin.

Doesn't matter of they are all from same draft. Just staggered your contract length and we will be fine.
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I think it depends on whether you rate next year's crop. If thats going to be a good year then maybe swapping pick 18 for next year's F1 might be ok so you'd have 2 F1 next year