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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #135 on: February 28, 2025, 01:34:17 PM »
Two extra points for me.
1. Allowing the opposition the easy outlet kick from a behind.  No Richmond player anywhere near them.  Was a concern for me and seems a basic set up error.
2.  Does the young team tag become a self fulfilling prophecy where the players on the team just expect to wear down as the game progresses.  I understand that 10 year players are going to be fitter and stronger but 18-23 year olds are still men.  I'm sure it's obvious but I wonder if it plays on the minds of young teams and can be used as an out or an excuse for poor performances.
That is all.

Both are great points  :thumbsup
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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #136 on: February 28, 2025, 07:36:11 PM »
I agree Georgies but can’t help but be a little excited that we might have 6-9 kids that can really play.
Lalor looked plenty good. Loved Trainor. Brown seems a keeper. I am hoping penny has dropped with Sonsie.
Gibcus can play fitness  :praying

There’s some serious talent here
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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #137 on: March 01, 2025, 07:29:54 AM »
That was a typical performance of a rebuilding side with youth . Good first half and the a drop off or good patches here and there. Forget about 4 qtrs aren't going to happen. It's all about good signs with the cubs this year.

My few worries
Some senior players still continue to kill us with poor skills and kicking or lack of performance. The midfield is to similar all one paced. The second tier of players need to step up.

The 2nd tier are not good enough. The majority are VFL standard

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #138 on: March 02, 2025, 03:54:25 PM »
That was a typical performance of a rebuilding side with youth . Good first half and the a drop off or good patches here and there. Forget about 4 qtrs aren't going to happen. It's all about good signs with the cubs this year.

My few worries
Some senior players still continue to kill us with poor skills and kicking or lack of performance. The midfield is to similar all one paced. The second tier of players need to step up.

The 2nd tier are not good enough. The majority are VFL standard
We're effectively starting our list build again from scratch. Similar to the 2006-2011 period (2004-5 drafts were wasted). A mixture of older players who are past their best, raw yet talented cubs, and the rest not up to standard. Hard to see us moving outside the bottom 4 and up the ladder until the early 2030s when the newbies reach have reached their early-mid 20s and have 80+ AFL games experience under their belt.
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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #139 on: March 02, 2025, 04:04:15 PM »
Cornes: Was Richmond's AAMI Community Series side the worst team on paper in a decade?

By Nic Negrepontis
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28 Feb 2025


Kane Cornes has labelled the Richmond 26-man squad named for their AAMI Community Series loss to Collingwood the worst side put on the park since the Suns and Giants’ inaugural seasons.

With Dion Prestia, Sam Lalor, Tom Lynch, Noah Balta and Josh Smillie unavailable and the likes of Liam Baker, Daniel Rioli, Shai Bolton and Jack Graham departing in the off-season, plus the retirement of Dustin Martin, the Tigers are officially in full rebuild mode.

Collingwood rolled them by 83 points and kicked 21 goals against a Richmond side that only featured five remaining premiership players.

Cornes says he will be keeping a close eye on Richmond crowds this season and hopes fans show up to support the team.

“Rebuilding sounds great on paper until you actually have to go through it and Richmond’s 22 (from the AAMI Community Series) is the worst 22 I’ve seen since Gold Coast and the Giants came into the competition,” Cornes told SEN Breakfast.

“This is worse (than North and West Coast’s recent teams).

“I’m putting the Richmond crowds in the gun. You were all for the rebuild and the young players coming in – will you turn up this year? Will Richmond fans turn up this year?

“In 2018, the average home crowd was 61,000. In 2023 it was 51,000. Last year it was 44,400. What will the average crowd for Richmond home games be this year? Will it be 1993 levels of 24,000?

“Rebuilding is great on paper until you actually have to go through it and how supportive will the Richmond fans be? Will they turn up and watch them? I’ll be watching closely.”

Richmond host Carlton in the traditional Thursday night season opener, with their next two home games against Brisbane in Round 4 and Gold Coast in Round 6.

The Tigers had 98,489 members in 2024, down from 101,349 the year before.

Richmond's AAMI Community Series 26-man squad

FB: J.Blight, B.Miller, N.Broad
HB: J.Short, S.Banks, T.Brown
C: T.Dow, J.Ross, J.Trezise
HF: R.Mansell, S.Campbell, M.Rioli
FF: J.Bauer, S.Ryan, S.Green
FOLL: T.Nankervis, T.Taranto, J.Hopper
I/C: N.Vlastuin, K.McIntosh, T.Sonsie, H.Armstrong, L.Trainor, K.McAuliffe, L.Fawcett, T.Sims
EMG: C.Gray, J.Koschitzke, K.Smith, J.Alger

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/02/27/cornes-was-richmonds-aami-community-series-side-the-worst-team-on-paper-in-a

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #140 on: March 03, 2025, 12:30:33 AM »
What we learned about all 18 clubs this pre-season

Ben Waterworth, Jack Jovanovski, Ben Cotton, Will Faulkner and Dylan Bolch
Fox Sports
March 3, 2025


RICHMOND

Result: 83-point loss to Collingwood (49-132)

What we learned:

The going was tough for Richmond in their first official match of 2025, but their fans can rest easier knowing that regardless of the scoreline, the long-term guidance from senior players to their youth will eventually pay dividends.

Leading at the very front on Wednesday night at Princes Park were Jayden Short and Jacob Hopper, who performed across half-back and the midfield respectively. The duo each filled their stat lines, but it was their actions that spoke louder than their numbers.

“I thought there were some real positives from their senior players,” Geelong modern-day great Tom Hawkins said of the pair post-game.

Toby Nankervis, Kamdyn McIntosh and Jack Ross could also hold their heads high in the clash, with their importance this season amplified in the otherwise-tough night for Adem Yze’s men.

If there’s one other positive that can come out of the loss to the Magpies, it’s that despite the grim scoreline, the Tigers had only two less inside 50s than their opponents, and had five more clearances thanks to some of the aforementioned senior players.

Ultimately, it was execution by foot and hand that allowed Collingwood to run away winners in the manner that they did, but there were more positives this week than what there were from last week’s match simulation against West Coast.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-preseason-2025-what-we-learned-about-every-club-after-aami-community-series-practice-games-analysis-latest-news/news-story/acc9150fcba3c312aee6302d0c8ad927

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #141 on: March 03, 2025, 11:49:56 PM »
'Senior Tigers need to be better than this' - Matthew Lloyd

Go to 1:45 min mark: https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1896524372065632307

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #142 on: March 04, 2025, 10:41:24 PM »
Richmond Development Coach Sam Lonergan joined Breakfast with Harf on the back of their practice match against Collingwood and to discuss how the Tigers are approaching the season.

AUDIO: https://www.rsn.net.au/news/rsn-podcast/breakfast-with-harf/2025-02-27/sam-lonergan-outlines-richmonds-2025-expectations/682647

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #143 on: March 05, 2025, 08:29:43 AM »
'Senior Tigers need to be better than this' - Matthew Lloyd

Go to 1:45 min mark: https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1896524372065632307

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #144 on: March 05, 2025, 03:06:20 PM »
Some of our senior group worry me passengers like and to many brain fades.

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #145 on: March 05, 2025, 03:38:35 PM »
Some of our senior group worry me passengers like and to many brain fades.

That’s why it’s going to be a long time before we see finals again, effectively a full list turnover

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #146 on: March 05, 2025, 06:33:38 PM »
Some of our senior group worry me passengers like and to many brain fades.

That’s why it’s going to be a long time before we see finals again, effectively a full list turnover

We'll still need to bring in some mature players a some point though - especially if most of the current ones go - and the first lot won't be stars, they'll probably be state leaguers, fringe players & retreads from other clubs. Might get a Houli or a Grigg but people forget they were also fairly ordinary players in the years before the flag.:shh
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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2025, 01:05:45 PM »
Anyone remember Brisbane go home 5?
People thought football in qld was screwed back then.
Feels a bit similar to us at the end of last year.

Dio, we will have to get some mature bodies, we might like what we get for the next few years but they are just place holders while the draft picks develop.
The nucleus of Brisbane’s flag team came through the 2015- 2017 and then they went hard after better players with the likes of Neale and Dunkley.
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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #148 on: March 08, 2025, 10:50:45 PM »
Well said , bring in the needed quality players from other clubs when the kids have developed sounds like a sensible plan.

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Re: Preseason match: Richmond vs Collingwood @ Ikon Park - Feb 26
« Reply #149 on: March 09, 2025, 05:23:54 PM »
Collingwood against us - 20 1

Against other opposition- 4 13
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