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Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« on: May 12, 2006, 09:27:47 AM »
The Swans this week - here's what they're talking about on RedandWhite Online.  Not talking about much, but here's a couple of thoughts.

They are glad that Sugar and Gas are out because the corresponding year, these were the Brownlow votes.

3 K Johnson
2 W Campbell
1 D Gaspar


Knowing that, I hope both of them play.

Having said that, the height in our forward line might stretch them, hence these comments:

Even leaving aside Dempster's strong return performance against Brisbane, Richmond's one strength is a good-sized marking forward line. Richo, Stafford/Simmonds keeping one of our defenders punching upwards in the goalsquare, Patrick Bowden is surprisingly tall, Pettifer (while short) marked everything that went near him last week (he just couldn't kick), plus Oakley-Nicholls and Hughes who will both get plenty of game time. And to make way for a smallish forward, we're dumping a 191cm mobile defender? Effectively playing with 5 specialist defenders (plus Schneider, Crouch et al rotating), but 11 players who will rotate through the midfield at some stage against a less-than-starstudded opposition ballwinning fleet? Doesn't strike me as 'horses for courses' selection

On our midfield:

While in theory Richmond are 'hard running', the fact is that (even if we were minus one midfielder) they are neither as fit nor as well-coordinated as Sydney's running brigade.

If both teams play to their capacity (a very dangerous assumption, I know), Richmond shouldn't go close to beating us in the midfield; but they could well and truly beat us up forward (and by this route give themselves a chance of winning if our forwards don't perform).


http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=1c030e88ff2a17880ab9972cdfb20fab&threadid=14575


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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2006, 03:51:06 PM »
Cheers for that Moi  :cheers

Some Swannie supporters sure have a chip on their shoulder over the Tiges. Don't know whether it dates back to the 70's and the Pitura saga or more recently when we've knocked them off by a kick a few times.   

SimonH: While in theory Richmond are 'hard running', the fact is that (even if we were minus one midfielder) they are neither as fit nor as well-coordinated as Sydney's running brigade.

LOL. I wonder who won last year mate ::).

Richo owns the Swans. He loves coming up with those stuff goals just for them  :thumbsup. When it was wet at the SCG a couple of years ago and Richo scooped the ball one-handed off the ground on the wing and with a heavy ball snagged a long running goal from 60m out. Then last year on the boundary 50m out towards the Ponsford end he jagged the goal. No wonder they hate us lol.

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 04:16:45 PM »
I don't really rate the swans midfield personally. Jude Bolton is a gun, Williams is past his best and they slipped under the radar last year because they had a lot of honest medium-sized types who could rotate through the middle and up forward (Buchanan, Schneider, Fosdike, Ablett). Not a lot of class there.

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2006, 09:05:07 PM »
Seems complacency is the hot issue on BigFooty this week.  Have to agree, but they also have good reason to be confident as well.

Wise man Crows98 says:

Playing sport my whole life the one thing that has always stuck with me is complacency in good sides. If your ever played sport (not implying if you have or have not) you understand that complacency has a huge effect on how a team performers, I just hope that Neil Craig and the boys don’t start getting complacent again side such as Richmond, Carlton, Essendon.

Once good sides become complacent and start taking victories over the opposition for granted is when they will lose a game they are expected to win.

Just because Richmond lost by over 18 goals and we have not lost to them for 6 or 7 year doesn’t mean they are not going to be a formidable opponent.

And Capitalist says:

I really don’t think it is intelligent to have a “resting” policy in modern football even against lowly Richmond

Remember they are getting 4-5 senior players this week and on-song will challenge us. The have players like Coughlan, Richo, Delideo(sp?), Tambling, Rodan, Kraouker (once again sp?), Johnson is back this week.

So we can’t be complacent as if Richo fires up and there is someone kicking the ball to him we could get one of the those embarrassing losses (West Coast v Collingwood last yr I think it was)

2 words
DANGER GAME

I guess we’ll have to cop the “lowly” placed side tag, because I guess we are, and haven’t proved otherwise against the Crows.  Hence Marvin:

I'm not complacent about this game, though I am very confident.

Complacency is always a danger when a run against the lowly placed sides comes up, but I think under Craig, the emphasis is on playing the way we want to, rather than the way the opposition tries to dictate. When you are proactive rather than reactive, complacency is perhaps less of an issue.

And two guys you just wanna kick their heads in.  Oops sorry mods lol
Wash and Jars 458:

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Richmond are useless. If we loss it will be shamefull.

Van Berlo to tag K Johnson if he plays to test my theory

Roo to kick 10.
I hate to sound complacent, but... what he said!



Couldn’t be bothered reading through the rest.  They are cocky and they have every right to be I suppose.  They are flying at the moment and they own us.  I guess it’s up to us to show them otherwise.


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242240&page=2

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2006, 09:08:52 PM »
I don't really rate the swans midfield personally.

Great call jakey.

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2006, 09:11:11 PM »
I don't really rate the swans midfield personally.

Great call jakey.
One of your better ones lol  :rollin

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2006, 09:32:45 PM »
LOL. We've all been there done that Jake  :thumbsup

We've got to cop it now and hope in 3-4 years time when our young blokes start reaching their peak and their older champions have retired that we return the favour and show no mercy. We're giving them a 2 and a half years and 50 games per player head start in terms of experience so no wonder they are a stronger side but as we've seen with the Lions, footy can bring even the greatest side back to Earth with a thud as age kicks in.

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2006, 03:02:14 AM »
They aren't very happy down on the Cats Claw messageboard.

Cat fans are arguing about who will help out Ottens in the ruck with King out. Some want their raw ruckman Blake to come in; others argue they have enough ordinary talls playing as it is lol.

Quote from: bobcat
If Geelong want the points they simply cannot afford to play Blake.
WHY NOT?
Currently we have Kingsley, Playfair, Ottens, Harley and Egan all battling to contribute even as much as 5 kicks per game. Harley has a legitimate excuse. However, there is a definite limit to just how many average talls any team can carry. They certainly cannot afford another one. At least Kingy can take a mark and get a kick. He is a big loss.

These blokes are paid handsomely to play football, not 1 quarter here and there but a full match. It is past time for Ottens and the others to provide the sort of service that they were contracted for. If they break down, so be it. Surely Ottens has developed some sort of fitness base by now. Is there no end to the excuses and the "molly coddling". For goodness sake, if we lose again our season is just about over.

I cannot believe that none of Kingsley, Playfair or Ottens have been held accountable for their continued pitiful performances. If they don't come good on Saturday, we will surely lose again.

They also think other sides have worked Geelong out and Bomber Thompson hasn't come up with a plan B. Sounds familiar  ;).

Quote from: catempire
Geelong relies on a very narrowly defined game plan and style to win it matches. Hard at the ball, tackling, running, working for your team mates and moving the ball quickly. It has been said that Geelong's greatest strength is its evenness. I say it's also our greatest flaw. When you rely on 22 players week in-week out to go into a game with a 99% switched-on mindset, it only takes a few players to be out of sorts and it spreads like wildfire to the rest of the team. A few players not running leads to indecisiveness and slow, chip around football. It's contagious. I've got nothing to kick to so I'll chip it 15m sideways. In the meantime everyone's been manned up so I've once again got nothing to kick to. We don't have a Riewoldt, Judd or Brown to do something special to break it up, so on it continues. Confidence is shattered and there's no way out.

Opposition teams have worked this out. Shut Geelong down with man-on-man, pressure football and they will go into their shells and you've got them.

So the big issue for Geelong is that they rely on a style of game that opposition teams have worked out how to bust up. The coaching staff are statuesque in their responsiveness when things aren't going well. We don't have a star to break up the play and turn the game around, instilling confidence into his teammates. We don't have a leader who stands up and says enough is enough, I'll show you how it's done.

They're problems that are not easily fixed. Even if we manage to get some confidence back and win a few games in a row, the game plan and personnel are fatally flawed and are susceptible (if not, inevitably likely) to lapse again at any stage.
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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2006, 03:08:47 AM »
There's an 8-page thread on wanting Bomber Thompson to quit and they are calling their own players prima-donnas. Funny how we only cop the "eating your own" tag ::). Alot of the comments are much like ours were about Spud :lol.

Quote from: wembayorta
Big fish in a small town... the players are a bunch of p*** weak, latte-loving, prima-donna's. At this stage I feel like Geelong will NEVER win a flag beause of the corio culture curse.

It's just too easy for them to get by, rake in the cash, sit around and play with their playstations... who the f*** would want to work on skills when you've got it easy. Just turn up to training a few times a week and go through the motions... and who cares about bomba? He's a good bloke and a soft touch... he'd never call Kingy down in fornt of the troops for being a completely useless ***... he'd never pull Lingy up in front of the whole team for is rank ineptitude... and god forbid that Carrot should be told in no uncertain terms just exactly how f***ing useless he's playing at the moment... nah, better just to keep a lid on the hysteria. 'Cause that's all it is. We're not that bad. And things could be worse... and geez, we weren't even supposed to be around without Thompson, Cook & Costa...

The fact of the matter is we suck because the attitude of the players sucks. The attitude of the players sucks because the attitude of the coach sucks. Apparently he can't work it out, why the players suck so profoundly. Here's a clue, bomba... they don't care. And why should they. No one's telling them or demonstrating any different from above.

They are also talking about tanking already only 6 weeks after being flag favourites :rollin.

Quote from: Tyler Durton 007
... so let's just analyse those who don't tank and get the picks needed to rise from the ashes (recent history)...

Us, Kangaroos, Melbourne

Going nowhere, no flag in sight (and don't jump on the Dees, they're not good enough and we all know it)

Compared with the tankers...

Collingwood, Bulldogs, StKilda, Richmond  ;), Hawthorn

They're all closer to flags than we are

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2006, 11:21:28 AM »
Mods, this is a great thread and should be stickied. :thumbsup I love reading the goss from other team forums but just don't have the time to troll.

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2006, 01:00:12 PM »

Quote of the week:
From tavelbug1 - a Geeeeeeeelong supporter:

Ahhh we are to Victorian footy what the dockers are to WA!

That has to be one of the best quotes of all time

Gee I hope we win :gotigers
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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2006, 02:58:27 PM »
Cats Claw - Never heard of it - Champagne comedy, keep it coming  :thumbsup

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2006, 04:13:05 PM »
Cats Claw - Never heard of it - Champagne comedy, keep it coming  :thumbsup

http://p209.ezboard.com/bgeelongcatsmessageboard

You need to have an ezboard account to view it as it has restricted viewing. For us net oldies they can use their old Roarpower nic.

 
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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2006, 05:27:19 AM »
There's a couple of threads on Pettifer on Cats Claw. One saying Bartel and Corey should play more like Petts. What odds would you have given on a Cat fan saying that 2 years ago lol.

Cat fans are mainly getting stuck into Bomber Thompson:

Quote from: gocatsgo
If Thompson is NOT immedately terminated as coach, I demand ALL Geelong supporters who have any sort of heart left in this club call for an immediate spill of the board.

If the current board will not act, then it is our duties as financial members and backers of the club to demand a board in place that will act to make the tough decisions.

This is beyond a joke. He is the second longest serving coach of the club and given us nothing but broken promises.

Every member of the this great club should be absolutely ashamed of the pitiful effort put in today.

Action must be taken now, if it's not then it is the members and supporters who MUST act.

Quote from: grinja the ninja
If Bomber doesn't play a 2nd ruckman and dump KK from full forward next week, I'd be happy to take Adam Heuskes in full drag as coach.

Some Cat fans have given up:

Quote from: geoff
Well it's no secret now. This is a dud team and a team of duds except for the obvious few. Winning preseason meant we came into the season with a string of injuries, now that's smart. Carlton proved what a joke it is last year. This team couldn't beat a team of one legged blindfolded drunken brownies.

Ottens and Kingsley wouldn't get a game with Timbuktoo thirds on current form, and who else apart from Ablett, Bartel and maybe a couple of others would get a game with any other AFL club. How many times today did Cameron Mooney kick the ball directly to a Richmond player. I lost count. Lingy about as useful as a pregnant camel, Mackie cant take a dinky little chest mark unopposed. SJ useless most of the day.

Thompson, who has got nothing to lose should tell it to them how it is, and that is that they are beyond hope and couldn't win if their life depended on it.

If Ablett isn't looking to do a 'Colbert' I'll be surprised. Couldn't blame him.

I'm beyond angry. I've given up all hope of Geelong winning a premiership in my lifetime.

Some are making fun of their own club:

Quote from: mcwilrob
The GFC song for 2006:

We are Geelong, the saddest team of all
We are Geelong, we're on and off the boil
We play the game so inconsistently
No flag since '63
The team is playing like crap from dawn to dark
Down at Kardinia Park

While some other Cat fans have totally lost it  :-X:

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Good People of Geelong,
This week please shun the players round town, jeer them,sign a petition, throw rocks at them if need be, But for god's sake let them know it's not good enough....GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS

Please think of how much they get paid and let them have it... @#%$ get Hunt's knees with a baseball bat, that would keep the player on their toes, thinking it's a good idea to perform...

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Re: Opposition supporters' opinion of upcoming games
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2006, 01:53:40 PM »
If you had never seen Freo play you'd reckon they had a history of success compared to none going by Dockerland  ::). This coming from a mob who changed the colours of their fan site to red and white of the Swans just to celebrate their superior crosstown rival's loss in last year's GF.

Quote from: shane richmond
Freo are in a bit of trough at the moment but all they need is soft hit out to get them back on track, they couldn't do better than beating Richmond on Sunday. There's alaways big question mark over Richmond. Are they a football pretending to be a rabble or are they a rabble pretending to be a football team? Either way, if the Dockers are in for a percentage boost this weekend.

They say there's nothing as ferocious as a Tiger with his back to the wall. What they don't tell you is that there's nothing as weak as a Tiger who's standing a few steps away from the wall and feeling pretty good about himself. Playing Richmond with a few wins under their belt is like Christmas, Easter and Cox Plate Day rolled into one. 

....

Then their's Troy "Five Year Two Million Dollar Contract" Simmonds. When Fremantle supporters nick named him Two Touch Troy, he made fools of us. Unfortunately he did it by taking a minimum of three touches, occasionally with his hands. He could play volleyball for Australia but in football, as far as he's concerned a contested mark is just an argument with his girlfriend about who didn't use a coaster on the coffee table. Maybe if they can get the Australian Mint to sponsor the ball, and paint a big dollar sign on it, Troy will be able to get a firmer grip on the thing. Until then, he'll just be fodder for 'Square Up' Sandilands to run through.

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But it's not the talent of the players at Richmond that are they're problem. On their day they can be as good as most teams. Their problem is that they're a bunch of girls blouses. They've even proudly announced it to the world by making Terry Wallace their coach. How can you take a bloke seriously, who tells you to toughen up, then swans off to the local beauty salon to work on his tan and get his hair blow waved.

The big question this week is how will Terry Wallace try and destroy the game that he's used to whore himself with for so long now. A couple of weeks ago he introduced a new tactic to the game that made a mockery of the game and had blokes turning in their graves who aren't even dead yet.

So, this week, will he play keepies off and tell his players to pass the ball around to each other after they kick the first goal of the match or will he adopt some other tactics from the playground?

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But whatever nonsense he decides to do, it'll just be a side show to the Fremantle goalapalooza. The Dockers need a big score to get back some percentage and an all out assault on the goals is being plotted. With Sandilands thumping the ball out of the centre to the little blokes, Pavlich, McPharlin, Polak, Campbell, Medhurst and Farmer will be getting the ball fed to them IV style. The goal umpire will be wearing a neck brace by quarter time, the Sherrin factory will have to put on extra staff and the Subiaco scoreboard will go into melt down - well actually the last one is a weekly event. The point is - get on the over forty this week, Tiger hunting season is open.

The full drivel is here: http://www.dockerland.com/NewsPub/News/Stories/2006/06/01/11491636221.html

But wait there's more:

Quote from: Shane Richmond
It's Raining Champions

It's always a nice feeling to look down at the list of ins and outs on a Thursday night and see the ins column made up of much better players than the outs. It's even better when you look down and see three outright superstars of the game coming in at the expense of a couple of kids and the bloke who cuts the lawns. So enjoy the site (sic) of Aaron Sandilands, Luke Mcpharlin, Jeff Farmer and Adam Campbell coming in to replace Murphy, Duffield, Thornton and Jarrad Schofield.

But wait there's more:

Quote from: browski
On Saturday Night, the sleeping giants of the competition are going to make a statement that they are now a top 4 team. This talented team is going to blow away all the pessimists and the dooomsdayers with a performance that will be both brutal and awesome in its execution.

This team has been stuck in living hell, ignored by their parents (the AFL), scorned by the soothsayers (the media) and tolerated by everybody else as being "mostly harmless". Their rightful inheritance (and sponsorship dollars)has been stolen by their evil bastard satan half-brother (the Eagles). This team has endured the horrific 11 year Purple curse that has left a vomitous bubbling stench from the fields of Gabba to Yorke. This team has seen its Messiah and Saviour (Clive Waterhouse) savagely slaughtered by its enemies before redemption was achieved.

Saturday night this will end.

This all coming from the supporters of a side that got pumped by 68 points by the bottom-4 placed Lions last week and has only played one final in its history which it lost at home. Oh Dear!  :whistle
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