To many of our supporters are to passionate about the players. I lost all that stuff when I as a kid I saw Raines and Cloke and Wood walk out the door and stuff my footy club, all I believe in now is the club. The club is bigger than any player and what we need is to have a coach who pulls the trigger on blokes when its required, no matter how popular they are, no matter how fancy there nicname, or even if theyre good blokes. If you cant play you shouldnt be at Richmond and more importantly if your not gonna be in a group of 28-29 players vying for a spot in a premiership side you shouldnt be there either.
with u 100%
thats the prob, too many tiger fans are plain stupid and think every player on our list is fantastic and untouchable, eg kellaway. ffs, our team really is crap, we need a lotta changes to be made to become elite again
thats why no one is untradeable, and untouchable. the club comes first and alsways should.
and when players get traded and delisted, stiff poo, no sentimental crap from me, its about time we had a coach who wasnt afraid to clean out all the poo from tigerland, not just the possum poo from 2 yrs ago!!!
I don't think anybody would be "stupid and think every player on our list is fantastic and untouchable". Just some of us don't think that you can cut 20 players in a year. I am sure a bunch of 1st, 2nd and 3rd year players getting smashed by 100 points teaches them heap and moves us closer to our goal of a premiership. NOT!!!!
Change has to be gradual with the way the draft and trading is set up in the AFL. Are the Tigers going to win a flag next year? - No way. The year after that? Possible but not likely. 2009? Maybe.
I believe that some players have more to offer that just "run fast next year". There is a lot more to each team (just look at the top teams) than just fast guys and sometimes clubs need to keep guys on the list that are not going to be on our next premiership team. There are many reasons e.g. team balance, experience, club cuilture, traning of the young guys, etc etc. Some of these are reasons are very hard to see on the field in any particular game. That doesn't mean they are not important.
Let me see - a player that was still in our top 22 or a 6th round draft pick of " PASS" ? I know what I would do.
It very hard for those outside of the club (that’s me and most of you) to see what each player is worth in terms of balance, sprit, etc. We just have to trust the guys making the decisions know what they are doing. We can agree or disagree but in the end it means nothing and doesn’t make us "plain stupid". We all have to go with the Club, for better or worse (a bit like a marriage).
Anyway back on track for this thread. Trade Krak to WCE ? Sure, but I don't think there is anything we really want that they would be prepared to give up for him. Best hope for us would be draft picks. IMHO