SEN summary with Bruce Eva, Mark Fine and Martin Pike:
* A couple of bad games but to be expected from a young side. Due to step up next year.
* Browny is the key. Fine said if he can come back we'll be certainties for the 8. Pike wouldn't go as far to say certainties. We rely on Richo kicking goals. He said we'll miss because there are better sides in and outside the eight.
* A number of young guys missed footy - mentioned Cogs and Thursfield - which affects their development.
* Our youngsters one year ahead of the Hawks' youngsters. If not next year then we'll definitely rise in 2008.
* Pike talking about the doggies said they need to get into the gym. One thing to be a good running side but you need muscle in the tight hurly burly of finals. No skinny arms in the GF on Saturday. That would apply to us as well.