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Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« on: December 31, 2006, 05:54:51 AM »
Tigers burn bright for top flight
31 December 2006   Sunday Herald Sun
Jackie Epstein

 RICHMOND's leaders Kane Johnson and Nathan Brown have declared a finals or failure ultimatum for the club.

The duo is focused on one goal only in 2007 for the team considered by many to be the best outside the eight last season.

"Definitely we're coming in with a lot stronger resolve than what we have before and we're ready to take that next step," skipper Johnson said.

"I think last year was a bit disappointing for us not to make finals. Just little things didn't go our way.

"I think with everything going right next year, if we don't make finals it's a massive failure and we all know that.

"So we're pretty keen to make that our next step. How far up the ladder I don't know, but as long as we're going in the right direction is the key."

The Tigers finished ninth last season and 12th in 2005 after coach Terry Wallace's first season at the helm.

Vice-captain Brown said the strong vibe around the club should translate into success.

"Definitely in my mind, and I guess I don't speak for the rest of the football club, it'd have to go down as a failure (if we missed finals)," he said.

"We finished ninth and there's one more position to climb and anything other than finals should be put down as a lost opportunity."

Johnson said Wallace's NAB 15 plan had instilled confidence and discipline among the group.

"It's the first time over pre-season, that I've heard so many blokes doing a lot of training," he said.

"I've never heard that before from the oldest to the youngest, everyone is doing a lot.

"Everyone came back as fit as I've ever seen a group come back, so I think that's a fair indication the boys are pretty keen to have a good crack at it."

Brown says the team's forward line could be the most potent in the competition next season.

Having acquired former Cat Kent Kingsley in the pre-season draft, Brown said the attack would strengthen considerably.

"I see the forward line being a very dangerous one," he said.

"It's a very talented one but sometimes can be a bit erratic.

"We're going to do a lot of work with Jade Rawlings, who is our forward line coach.

"Kent can kick 50 (goals), I can, Matthew (Richardson) can, you'd like to think Kayne Pettifer could and there's Jay Schulz.

"It's a very dangerous forward line where we play right down to our sixth man.

"We've got a lot of work to do over the summer because forward lines just don't click.

"But I think there's no better example for us to look at than Sydney.

"The way they structure up their forward line and the way they work for each other is second to none.

"It's led by Barry (Hall) and Ryan (O'Keefe), and it's a fantastic benchmark for us to look at."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20993266%255E20322,00.html

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 06:13:55 AM »
If the lads are so confident they should put a bet on themselves  ;). TAB Sportsbet has us at $2.60 to make the final 8:

WEST COAST  1.07 
ADELAIDE  1.12 
SYDNEY  1.20 
ST KILDA  1.30 
FREMANTLE  1.33
BULLDOGS  1.33 
GEELONG  1.70 
MELBOURNE  1.70
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COLLINGWOOD  1.80 
PORT ADELAIDE  2.10 
RICHMOND  2.60 
HAWTHORN  2.65 
ESSENDON  2.75 
BRISBANE  3.50 
CARLTON  6.00
KANGAROOS  6.00 

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 12:39:59 PM »
Tend to agree with the leaders

If we get a good run with injury - the 8 has to be the aim :thumbsup

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 04:44:57 PM »
I know the club can do with a positive footy-related distraction from Krak's incident but I wish we would just shut our gob when it comes to making predictions and just let our on-field form do the talking. That's where it only counts. We only won 2 out of 12 games against the 2006 finalists. We're still a long way off the best.
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 04:58:23 PM »
I know the club can do with a positive footy-related distraction from Krak's incident but I wish we would just shut our gob when it comes to making predictions and just let our on-field form do the talking. That's where it only counts. We only won 2 out of 12 games against the 2006 finalists. We're still a long way off the best.
Agree, just do it.
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 08:33:10 PM »
I know the club can do with a positive footy-related distraction from Krak's incident but I wish we would just shut our gob when it comes to making predictions and just let our on-field form do the talking. That's where it only counts. We only won 2 out of 12 games against the 2006 finalists. We're still a long way off the best.

I agree MT we are long way off the really good teams but when it's all said and done we should be aiming for the finals (bottom 4 of the 8) in 2007 - if we are really serious about this steady improvementstuff then it's gotta be finals in 2007
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2007, 03:21:10 AM »
I agree MT we are long way off the really good teams but when it's all said and done we should be aiming for the finals (bottom 4 of the 8) in 2007 - if we are really serious about this steady improvementstuff then it's gotta be finals in 2007

Don't disagree with us aiming high. I agree WP that a spot from 5th to 8th is very realistic for us to achieve this year. Just keep it inhouse  :shh. Playing (or not playing) in September speaks louder than any pre-season talk as Hawthorn and Geelong have found out recently the hard way.
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 08:23:48 PM »
A 2007 ladder prediction from aflinsider.net...........

1: West Coast Eagles - They won in 2006 so they start on top here.

2: Sydney Swans - Addition of Everitt improves their team.

3: Fremantle Dockers - Tarrant and Solomon add more AFL Grand Final experience.

4: Western Bulldogs - Akermanis should take them further, and their injured players are coming back too.

5: Adelaide Crows - Some questions in the ruck and up forward.

6: St Kilda Saints - New coach and a couple of veteran ruckmen will help.

7: Richmond Tigers - Riewoldt, Polak and Kingsley will assist Richardson and the other Richmond talls.

8: Geelong Cats - Hawkins should take them to the finals in 2007.

9: Melbourne Demons - Didn't make changes during offseason.

10: Hawthorn Hawks - Young team that keeps improving.

11: Essendon Bombers - Mal Michael could push them a lot higher.

12: Port Adelaide Power - Extended their coach and will continue to build their young and quick team.

13: Collingwood Magpies - Reid and Brown are great, but won't be ready to fill the hole left by Tarrant next season.

14: Kangaroos - Hansen will need to dominate for them to improve.

15: Brisbane Lions - Looking at another rebuilding year but have a lot of the pieces there.

16: Carlton Blues - Coach and board problems, small ruckmen, it could be a long year.

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 08:50:26 AM »
A 2007 ladder prediction from aflinsider.net...........

Whoever came up with this ladder has placed a lot of pressure on first year draftees...

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 10:50:54 AM »
A 2007 ladder prediction from aflinsider.net...........


8: Geelong Cats - Hawkins should take them to the finals in 2007.


geesus, how much pressure on hawkins, if they need  a daftee new kid on th eblock rto get them in teh 8 they are in deep trouble

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2007, 06:56:36 PM »
A 2007 ladder prediction from aflinsider.net...........


8: Geelong Cats - Hawkins should take them to the finals in 2007.


geesus, how much pressure on hawkins, if they need  a daftee new kid on th eblock rto get them in teh 8 they are in deep trouble

Well it looks like a spot in the Geelong's forward line has just opened up for him lol.
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2007, 07:31:57 PM »
As soon as I saw this headline I thought of you MT and how you'd handle it. Well you've held true to expectation from your comments.

The only reason I reckon they would come out and say such a thing now is that they must be thinking that memberships aren't as strong as they would have hoped for up to this stage and are trying to generate some excitement and expectation. I also wonder if this story was ordered under a Gary March directive seeing as Stephen Wright isn't there calling the shots at the moment. Statements like these can have a tendency to really hurt you if they don't come off.
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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 02:42:30 PM »
Quote from: Rodgerramjet

Statements like these can have a tendency to really hurt you if they don't come off.

Agree RR. You're spot on in saying Wright is a stabilising influence at Punt Rd. We had reached a record membership level for Christmas time (13,000) so membership is going okay.

When you hear Carlton saying today that they think they can realistically make the top 8 this year you know to treat these comments with a grain of salt. As we learnt first hand it's hard to be successful on-field when the Club is a rabble off it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2007, 04:29:04 AM »
Connolly has a dig at the bottom 8 sides including us over their preseason spin.

Summer hopes spring eternal
Rohan Connolly
The Age
January 14, 2007

AS A supporter of an AFL club going through a tough patch, you'll hang your hat on pretty much anything. January is a particularly good time to do it.

Training is in full swing, the reality check provided by actual competitive games is still a good couple of months away, and for just a little while, you're entitled to dream.

The players your team picked up in the off-season might well become popular choices as recruiting blunder of the year come June or July, but for now, they're the potential difference between the disaster that was last season and a finals appearance this time 'round.

The injury-prone star who seems perennially to be stuck in the medical room or on the surgeon's table is reportedly having his best pre-season in years. The bloke who habitually carries a spare tyre or two is, of course, "fitter than he's ever been".

The team that collectively couldn't hit the side of a barn five months ago is inevitably described as sparkling in skills work on the track.

...there's very little happening at clubs at the moment that can't be spun into a good news story.

..... you can make as much of a positive out of a player sticking with the number he's already been given. As would Richmond supporters recently when talented midfielder Nathan Foley was offered former captain Wayne Campbell's old No. 9.

Foley thought long and hard before opting to stay with his original No. 41, the obvious cue for plaudits about his "quiet and unassuming" character and a determination to make his own mark.


Full article at: http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/01/13/1168105227283.html

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Re: Finals or failure - Sugar and Browny
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2007, 10:01:21 PM »
A 2007 ladder prediction from aflinsider.net...........

AFL Insider Power Rankings: Updated February 6 2007

1: West Coast Eagles (1 in last AFL Power Rankings)
Nothing has changed in the last month to affect them on the field.

2: Western Bulldogs (4)
Everyone is ready to go, now they just have to figure out where players like Darcy and Murphy fit.

3: Sydney Swans (2)
LRT isn't their most important player, but the Swans would prefer he was there in round 1.

4: Fremantle Dockers (3)
Schammer won't be there to start the season.

5: Adelaide Crows (5)
Everything is going well for the Crows right now, but they have their fingers crossed that no more ruckmen get hurt.

6: Melbourne Demons (9)
Quietly going about their business, good news at this time of year.

7: St Kilda Saints (6)
Any time Riewoldt has an injury it is a problem, but it is a minor injury. R Clarke is also out for an extended time, Gardiner may miss games too.

8: Essendon Bombers (11)
Sheedy has a full list to choose from, now he just has to figure out who plays where. Their game in Darwin might feature players in new positions.

9: Richmond Tigers (7)
Training hard, and their Riewoldt is healthy, but a lot will depend on how quickly Simmonds returns from injury.


10: Geelong Cats (8)
Hawkins could be their most important player, but he might not be there in round 1.

11: Hawthorn Hawks (10)
Are down a ruckman with Bailey out for the year.

12: Collingwood Magpies (13)
Have had some injuries to players on their list but their core group is ready, except for Didak.

13: Port Adelaide Power (12)
Tredrea isn't ready to go, so the Power won't be operating at peak capacity.

14: Kangaroos (14)
Their draft picks are progressing well.

15: Brisbane Lions (15)
Hooper leaving isn't the best way to start the season..

16: Carlton Blues (16)
It wasn't their president who played, but his departure might give the club a fresh start. Trying Waite in the back line, probably a good idea.

http://www.aflinsider.net/afl-insider-power-rankings-february-6-2007/