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Re: Schulz
« Reply #180 on: October 15, 2007, 12:59:20 AM »
in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.

if i watched them succeed  as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.



Good post.

Add Cleve Hughes to that list.

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Re: Schulz
« Reply #181 on: October 15, 2007, 10:02:38 AM »
in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.

if i watched them succeed  as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.



that's a big worry with me.

i actually like the talent that the club brings in, but the inability for the kids to kick on points to poor development. although i think the kids respond well to Craig McRae he needs better support around him though
The problem at Richmond is these kids have the responsibility to perform major roles from go as the senior core around them is thin when it should instead be the senior players who carry the majority of the workload and let the kids develop around them. Lids, Blingers, etc are expected to dominate games or they are seen as failures. Take Lids - he's being tagged as a 20 year old for crying out loud because the opposition see him more as a threat than any senior player we have. Same with Foley who is only 21.

Rodan is a good example. He went to a club where he was No. 16-22 in their side and performed great feeding off the work of Port's star players. Come GF day he went missing because Port's star players were well held.

We need to first develop a new core first which is what we're slowly doing before we too can allow youngsters to develop in their own time with the structure of a more senior core around them.

i do agree with that to some extent.
ive always said this our senior players, bar browny, tucky, petts, bowden maybe one or 2 others, are not good enough and i doubt they would get a game elsewhere at another club.
our captain in particular just is not up to it and a team like this needs a captain who lifts the team not struggles to kick it 25 meters at times.
harsh, well maybe i am but we have got worse under kane Johnson..fact!!
i was taking to a ex richmond player once and he said our biggest mistake was choosing him as captain and not club people like richo or bowden..
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Re: Schulz
« Reply #182 on: October 23, 2007, 02:46:47 PM »
Royal stating the obvious about Sarge

I think if you asked Jay about his year he would be disappointed with it. Like a few other players this season, at times he showed enormous talent but just didn’t do enough at AFL level. He knows the areas he needs to work on.

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Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #183 on: February 23, 2008, 05:14:00 AM »
The old chestnut for Jay. He's been training in defence all summer yet obviously went forward last night after half-time and kick a couple of goals as we kicked away.

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #184 on: February 23, 2008, 12:02:17 PM »
The old chestnut for Jay. He's been training in defence all summer yet obviously went forward last night after half-time and kick a couple of goals as we kicked away.

Jay's always been good at the level below AFL and I would a class pre season practice match, against the side lots of people feel will beat us to the wooden spoon this year, as a level below. He always seems to lose his nerve in the real stuff, drops marks duffs kicks.

Having said that ...

It's good to see Jay showing something again this pre season. His body language towards the end of last year really looked disinterested and I felt it was probably time for Jay and the RFC to part ways for both our sakes. Good on him for getting back into it and I would love as much as anyone for him to take the game by the scruff of the neck this year and show detractors (like myself) that we are wrong.

Jay has everything you would want in a big KPP and I really don't care if it is in the forward line or the back line. If he can get his act together he would be an asset to any team.

Perhaps his back line training this pre season has help his forward line work since he may understand better what defenders are trying to do. Fingers crossed.

Come on Jay, your time is now.

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #185 on: February 23, 2008, 06:46:01 PM »
David King said Sarge did well in defence last night so if that's right then perhaps he can do what he did last night and play mainly in the backline and pinchhit up forward rather than going missing for large parts of the game playing solely at FF for the whole game. As you say RROFO he needs to deliver something in the real stuff otherwise it'll be bye-bye for sure at the end of the year.
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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #186 on: February 23, 2008, 06:59:48 PM »
David King said Sarge did well in defence last night so if that's right then perhaps he can do what he did last night and play mainly in the backline and pinchhit up forward rather than going missing for large parts of the game playing solely at FF for the whole game. As you say RROFO he needs to deliver something in the real stuff otherwise it'll be bye-bye for sure at the end of the year.

He will be well suited at City Oval Coburg

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #187 on: February 23, 2008, 07:37:45 PM »
I think it depends on where and if Richo is playing. If Richo is then Schulz would be better in the backline but if he isn't then he clearly becomes our best full forward.

When Richo and Schulz play in the say forwardline they don't work together and Richo cuts across Schulz's lead, collides with Jay and never creates space for his younger team mate. So as a result, rather than make our forwardline more dangerous, having the two of them in the F50 becomes counter productive.

So until Richo learns to work with other forwards or moves out of the area, Schulz should be used in the backline.

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #188 on: February 23, 2008, 08:21:31 PM »
i think he will play both back and fwd, depending on matchups, and how we are playing. will never be as good as leppitsch but may just be groomed to play like him, as a defender and as mt said, pinch hit up fwd when required or whenever richo keeps missing or getting in the way

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #189 on: February 23, 2008, 08:22:33 PM »
There os the problem, if schulz is getting a game ,we are in trouble

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #190 on: February 23, 2008, 08:31:18 PM »
yep, but u never know, he just may turn out and be a handy player, or just continue to be a lazt prick, only time will tell and if he turns out to be a dud, that just makes miller and terry look more stupid

i recall when terry was a commentator and not a coach, he said jay was hopeless and would never make the grade, if thats the case why has terry kept him on all this time

is terry just plain stupid

or has terry seen something in jay that impresses him

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #191 on: February 23, 2008, 10:39:41 PM »
IIRC Port were up for trading at 2nd rounder for schulz. If that really is the case there must be something to work with there.

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2008, 11:51:16 PM »
best spot is defence for the coburg seconds.

the less i see of this loser the better
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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #193 on: February 25, 2008, 02:08:36 PM »
Fighting for a spot in the best 22 with Polak IMO.

Both these players have it all before them.

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Re: Schulz - forward line or defence?
« Reply #194 on: February 25, 2008, 07:54:39 PM »
Schulz - Centre Half Forward or Full Forward

Polak - Centre Half Back