Robbo was on SEN tonight (betwen 6-7pm) and siad he done an interview with Benny and it will be a 2 page spread in Saturday's HUN
Here it is .....
Ben Cousins clocks up 250 gamesMark Robinson | August 08, 2009
MARK ROBINSON: One week ago you were best on ground, one year ago you didn't have a football club. It's been a hell of a journey. BEN COUSINS: It's been a big 12 months, and part of the reason why coming back to footy appealed to me so much was the element of the unknown.
There were a lot of challenges: coming back to play footy, whether you were going to make the grade, whether your body was going to hold up.
After Round 1 there were question marks about whether I was going to stand up.
The transition back into football I've been reasonably happy with and just being a part of a football environment . . . I've underestimated how much I've really enjoyed playing alongside 21 other blokes.
Were you always confident after your drug troubles you would get to the form you're playing? I was always confident that I was able to make the grade. Whether I was going to get somewhere near my best, I'm not sure.
But I was confident I could play a year of senior footy if my body held up.
Are you near your best? It's hard to say. I will be better prepared next year than I was this year, albeit a year older.
But I think I'm justifying my existence.
So the attitude is where it needs to be to play senior footy? I'm just really enjoying being a member of the Richmond footy club. I have as much hunger and passion for the game now as I've ever had.
There is talk of contract negotiations. If you play good footy, hopefully the rest takes care of itself. I'd like to think that there's something on for next year and time will tell.
This time, 12 months ago, there were doubts about you playing, surely from yourself as well. Can you remember how you felt through September, October and November? It wasn't a long time ago, and through all my indiscretions, I have always taken up the challenges that are presented in footy.
And overcoming the past 12 months presented one of, if not the, biggest footy challenge.
You alone can answer how difficult it's been, and can you let us know, especially after you did your hamstring in Round 1? It hasn't been all smooth sailing, but life isn't, a year in footy isn't, no one's year in footy is easy.
Taking into account where you were coming from. Yeah, and I was under no illusions I was coming up against a big challenge and it wasn't going to be easy.
How I assessed the past 12 months wasn't going to be on how many kicks or handballs I got, or how many good games I played, because sometimes that's out of your control.
It was more about how I took up the challenge and getting through my hamstring injury.
Dealing with your drug situation? Just dealing, you know, with life on life's terms.
How are you dealing with life on life's terms? Pretty well. I'm in a good place. I'm really enjoying my footy, I love Melbourne, I love the players I'm playing alongside.
For 12 months there, maybe a bit longer, you forget what it's like to run out with 21 other blokes and draw inspiration from the little things each bloke contributes to the team.
Football is an emotional game and I play it with emotion, I get off on that.
So how much has the Richmond experience been above what you expected? I'm enjoying my footy now as much as I ever had.
It's been a tough year for us as a footy club, but with that, it presents itself with another whole list of opportunities for somebody like me, who's experienced a fair bit in footy and understands the importance of fast-tracking young guys' development.
Has your philosophy of footy changed from playing at West Coast to playing at Richmond? I evolved a lot as a player at West Coast. I left a very different player to the one I started, through being given leadership roles.
I was captain of the footy club for a while, I was part of a side that was struggling and saw it transform into a powerhouse.
And I saw the things you need to do as a side to get there. I've come into a side at Richmond which is in a very developmental stage and with that comes a little of excitement and . . .
Pride? Well, yeah.
Are you proud of the fact of where you have come from to where you are now? I try not to reflect too much because it makes you complacent.
You've said that several times. Do you ever reflect? Umm, sometimes, but not a lot. Part of what made me a successful footballer is that I'm never satisfied and I always want to look to the next week.
It's been leaking out of Richmond that you have been playing a major role in developing and coaching the midfield. Are you enjoying the responsibility? It's hard to assess the impact or influence I have on other players. I'm talking more than I did at the start of the season and, you know, it's an opportunity to talk about it being my 250th game.
For a long time there I stopped counting games, but when I came back to Richmond I started again and this week is my 12th game.
That's in no way meaning to disrespect the time I had at West Coast, but I walked into Richmond with a clean slate . . .
Cleanish slate. Well, maybe not a clean slate, but a fresh start, and I understood how important it was for me to start at base camp and work my way up to earning the respect of the players on and off the field.
That comes with only working hard and playing some half-decent footy.
The young players at Richmond obviously talk to you about footy, but do they also talk to you about your life experiences? Not as much, but I'm sure a lot of the younger guys look at that side of my life with a bit of trepidation, bit unsure about where the line is.
If they did, would you accommodate? Yeah, I would have no trouble at all. How and when I am able to use some of my life experiences to have an impact on other people, I'm unsure about.
But I'm under no illusions I think it can have a pretty significant impact on other people. If nothing else, it's been a big experience.
Has the world moved on from Ben Cousins? The circus has stopped? You'd hope so. I understood a lot of the reasons why it was so topical.
You're making a doco. The build-up to the first game and then the hamstring pinging could have been a movie itself. I knew it was going to be way out of proportion in terms of build-up, but it was one of the reasons why I wanted to come back and play footy, and that was to be part of that, put myself in the position of having to stand up.
To be the focus of that much attention in a pretty stressful time in your life, where there was huge doubts from people, and from yourself at certain times, that's just the sporting challenge and one I was looking forward to.
So you have a sense of normality now? I'm just about the only normal person I know (laughing) . . . perhaps everyone else is completely mad.
Are people forgiving and understanding? People ask me how people are treating me. You know, I'm not bitter towards anyone.
I've got through this intact. I look at my footy experience and the last few years and I consider myself in front.
Lucky? Yeah, I am, absolutely. I'm in front, I'm ahead of the game.
I'm ahead in terms of luck and good fortune. I certainly don't sit here and think, 'Gee, I've been dealt a harsh hand'. Not at all, quite the opposite.
How tough was the period when Terry Wallace was under siege? Footy and life, it's tough, you know.
You rang Mitch Morton after the Port Adelaide game, after Wallace said what he said. What did you say? We all find ourselves in the hot seat at some point and that week was his turn.
Football, like life, tests us out along the way. Sometimes you are fairly going to be put in that position, sometimes unfairly.
I have had a good involvement with Mitch and I just know how much I've appreciated the support that I've copped when I've been under some scrutiny. That's what it's all about, you rally around people.
And post-Terry, Jade comes in. I very much look at Jade as a coach. With a young coach you may not get that feeling, but I look at him and I see a coach. I've really enjoyed working under him.
Have you seen a change in the way the Tigers have played under Jade? As you would expect, we all do things slightly differently. Terry's not Jade and Jade is not Terry, and that's not a bad reflection of either of them.
I'm actually in a position to give Terry a wrap because whilst it was a really tough time when Terry exited the footy club, he took a huge punt on me and was the only guy willing to and for that I'm very grateful.
There's a part of me that feels disappointed I couldn't return the favour by playing good footy under him.
Terry texted me today, actually. At the moment we are in the throes of a footy season, so it's hard to catch up, but we'll have a beer at the end of the season away from the scrutiny.
You sound as though, mentally and physically, you are on top of your game. I came into pre-season at Christmas, so it was a very interrupted preparation, and it's taken me half the season to get over injuries, to get my body right, and right now I'm feeling really confident.
I don't think I've lost a yard of pace, I'm going strong. But I am 31, and in my own mind I'm confident in my ability and confident I will be better prepared next year, but I understand it's a year-to-year proposition.
Someone said to me the other day, 'Gee, it would be nice to get a two-year deal'. It would be nice in some ways, but approaching your footy in a year-to-year proposition keeps you hungry. It 100 per cent ensures you get the most out of the year.
At the moment, I'm not asking for anything, I'm just playing footy.
Where is Richmond in terms of development? You can't look too much further than your win-loss ratio, but what I do know is that as quickly as it can fall apart, just as quickly it can turn around.
I would like to think the foundation we are putting in now, and the continued development, we could approach next year with some excitement.
I honestly believe that. You could go through our side and see a lot of upside. I think Leigh Matthews or Mick Malthouse still after every year would sit back and say, 'Gee, I was surprised by that bloke's development; gee, he came from nowhere'. Blokes continually surprise you.
Who surprised you? I've admired the way Chris Newman has gone about his footy. To captain a side when it's struggling - and I know what that is like - and coming in for his first year, it's a pretty tough environment for a captain.
I just think he's done a pretty good job and he will continue to develop as a leader.
Have you an opinion on Jade, re: next year? I think he's proven more than capable he can coach a senior side. I've really enjoyed playing under him, but obviously who coaches is a decision for the club and not the players.
Have you got an opinion on Richo? I texted Richo last week before his comeback, hoping that he'd do well, and just saying I'm looking forward to playing footy with him, and nothing has changed.
Your 250th, is it an important number for you? Not really.
Doesn't give you one moment in time to reflect on the journey? I've played enough games now to know I've played enough to be respected as a footballer. Be it 240, or 250 or 260, it doesn't really matter too much to me.
You are going to have a banner for the game, and it might not mean anything to you, but Richmond supporters will acknowledge you. That sits pretty uncomfortably with me getting acknowledged by Richmond people. I've played half a season for them.
Maybe it might be a welcome-to-the-family banner. I feel they've done that already.
Will you look at the banner when you run out? I won't not look at it, but I don't know what it will say, if anything, really.
I'm aware of the emotion of footy fans, but this milestone doesn't carry, and nor should it, much significance among the Richmond players or supporters.
It would probably be different if I played 250 games for Richmond, but I still wouldn't expect that either.
Would John Worsfold text you to congratulate you on your milestone? I don't know. I understand . . . you know, I'm playing for Richmond now. I'm just trying to underplay the significance of playing 250 games.
Are you a footy nut? Could you name the 250-game players for West Coast or who has played 300 games for Richmond? No. But I watch more footy now and I enjoy footy now more than I ever have. I probably spent the best part of my career trying to escape from it, but I would sit down and watch Friday night footy every week.
Part of the reason why I've enjoyed Melbourne is I'm not waking up to West Coast and Fremantle every day. It was very insular and it wasn't a rounded football experience.
Here, it's about what's happening in the game. We talk about everything, about St Kilda, Geelong, the big games, coaches, rules. You don't get saturated reading about yourself or your club.
You said you were in a happy space. How has Melbourne helped that? What do you do outside footy? Melbourne has been very good for that, but I attribute a lot of that to moving to a new city, starting a new job, just being able to move on, go forward, and I wasn't afforded that opportunity last year.
Last year I was a gypsy, Melbourne, Perth, Sydney. I was living out of a suitcase for 12 months and I was in no position to look further ahead than next week.
Is Melbourne home? Yep. I'd love to explore the opportunities post-footy here.
Can you live without footy? I don't know.
Does coaching in some capacity interest you? If you asked me that question in any year at my time at West Coast, I would have said straight up no.
But I couldn't give you that answer now. I don't know if that's a yes, but in some form I'd like to think I could have some involvement in footy, whether it be coaching the under-12s or whatever.
I've had conversations with Kane Johnson about it. He finished this year in a transitional role and I think he will be fantastic at it.
When footy is taken away from you, there's a void in your life and I will find out how important footy is.
You had the void because of your issues, but now that it's back, you don't seem to want to let it go. I can't put a time frame on anything. All I know is it's good for me. I enjoy it. You're a long time retired, and I've got the rest of my life to do whatever I'm going to do.
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