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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #75 on: May 04, 2007, 07:21:39 PM »
Might just add its a terrible way to treat a life member.
Hate to see what they do to an ordinary player ::)

life member my arse, it just suited him to jump ship on sydney to the tigers for big bucks, and then screw us over with freo and risk losing him for nothing. If 600k a year buys you loyalty well then great  :banghead

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #76 on: May 04, 2007, 07:22:09 PM »
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

McGuane doesn't look like getting a game at all 2 months ago. Thursty was coming back from a knee. Moore is/was injury prone. You also said Jack that Polak would spend most of this year at Coburg  ;). Who would play KP defence for us then without Gas on the list? Joel and who?

Spot on, MT. Rational thought versus emotion

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #77 on: May 04, 2007, 07:24:20 PM »
I wasnt happy with Gaspar either and felt that he should have gone 2 years ago but in the end hes gone now and you have to show some respect for his contribution. Its better to end business relationships well and leave some doors open than to make someone feel bad. The clubs mistake is they made him do a preseason and retired him 5 games in...thats not correct for mine- although I reiterate that football had passed him by and he should of gone a fair while back.

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #78 on: May 04, 2007, 07:26:26 PM »
And by the way they should have presented Trent Knoble to the press today to announce his retirement as well. He wasnt available when we needed him ... time to say goodbye to Trent as well- although he should have gone last year as well.

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #79 on: May 04, 2007, 07:30:30 PM »
I wasnt happy with Gaspar either and felt that he should have gone 2 years ago but in the end hes gone now and you have to show some respect for his contribution. Its better to end business relationships well and leave some doors open than to make someone feel bad. The clubs mistake is they made him do a preseason and retired him 5 games in...thats not correct for mine- although I reiterate that football had passed him by and he should of gone a fair while back.


Ramps, spot on

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #80 on: May 04, 2007, 07:31:51 PM »
And by the way they should have presented Trent Knoble to the press today to announce his retirement as well. He wasnt available when we needed him ... time to say goodbye to Trent as well- although he should have gone last year as well.

Thats for next week, double billing apparently.
Knobs and Kent Kingsley :lol

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2007, 07:32:07 PM »
Gas has been a good servant to this club, perhaps a little bit too long, but nevertheless, I wish him all the best for his future and his life as a doting dad  :clapping
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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #82 on: May 04, 2007, 10:31:32 PM »
 :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :thumbsup :bow :bow :bow
Well done DG ( Gas ) you done us proud with your service
Me and the kids will miss you playing in our backyard  :cheers

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #83 on: May 04, 2007, 10:48:37 PM »
After having had the privilege of having dinner with Gas at the player sponsors night the other night, I will remember just a really nice person.  Sat right next to me and we chatted all night.  Didn't talk about footy, just his new babies that he was so looking forward to and general chit chat.  You would never describe him as an extrovert, but very intelligent and just really easy to say hi to.  Something I find pretty difficult on most occasions.

I left feeling glad that I actually got to meet him and dispel all of the crap I read about him on here and elsewhere.

He wants to stay in Melbourne - he loves it here, so hopefully we will see him around the club in the future.

I will remember the great player he was before he did his knee, and he was great for those who can't remember or choose not to lol.  Like Browny, it wasn't his fault he was injured.  And then having to come back and immediately play on the opposition's best forward, his form was exposed unfortunately for all to see.

I actually thought he was pretty accurate in how he's played this year, so I understand his disappointment, while at the same time pretty excited at the improvement of those that have come in to replace him, and more of them still to come back or debut.

I'm neither happy or unhappy.  I think the club did it the only way they could - honestly.  With the unusual circumstances of Wallace trying to turn over a complete playing list, of course there's going to be casualties and lots of tears, but that's just how it is.  It's not personal, it's how it has to be if we want to become a great club again.

If the players use this as an excuse to create instability without looking at the bigger picture I'd be disappointed.  If they don't like it, leave.  Just go to another club.  The club is bigger than any individual!

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #84 on: May 04, 2007, 11:00:02 PM »
Wallace should retire 2 more soon. Knoble and Kingsley: simply they dont get out on the park enough. And when thats done he should drop Tuck and Pettifer to the magoos and come the end of the year he should clean out the joint. He should also make a big big statement by trading a big name like Joel Bowden.

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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #85 on: May 04, 2007, 11:36:46 PM »
The young blokes are coming on faster than expected before the start of the year. The surprise bonus is a number are KPPs. Gas and Kingsley were on the list to give our young KPPs extra time at Coburg to develop and work their way towards earning a AFL game. The fact is they don't need that extra time at VFL level. They are good and talented enough to develop and learn at AFL level. If you thought Polak, McGuane and Hughes would be doing anywhere near as well as they are prior to the start of the season then you must be psychic.

I'm neither happy or unhappy.  I think the club did it the only way they could - honestly.  With the unusual circumstances of Wallace trying to turn over a complete playing list, of course there's going to be casualties and lots of tears, but that's just how it is.  It's not personal, it's how it has to be if we want to become a great club again.

If the players use this as an excuse to create instability without looking at the bigger picture I'd be disappointed.  If they don't like it, leave.  Just go to another club.  The club is bigger than any individual!
Well said Moi  :clapping.
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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #86 on: May 05, 2007, 12:45:07 AM »
i haven't heard my father more happy with richmond then today !

as i drive out of uni my father calls me ...

first sentence he said was "DID YOU HEAR THE GOOD NEWS?"

ROFL ...

i am like "what?" ... "THEY SACKED GASPAR!!!" ... LM"F"AO ...

it is a good move, people have got to realise that wallace is wrong !!! why ???

REMEMBER it was either KELLAWAY or GASPAR ... and he chose GASPAR ...

that lasted 5 matches ...

so does this mean our defensive is shot ???

maybe not, if he plays McGuane, Jackson, Thrusfield and retires KELVIN MOORE ... i would be happy with that ...

so for gaspar ... i don't know really ... 2 all-australians and 1 B&F ... good but only "3 FINALS MATCHES" ...

i am glad he is gone, retiring now or what ever makes him look stupid, he should of gone last year really !

couldn't kick and couldn't keep his feet, yet he was still our best defender during our "bad years" ...

overall, just happy there is no more of him ... but i know he is an intelligent person with a hot wife (LMAO)

... so i would have him as a coach ??? well see how it goes ...


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Re: Gas retires / Retirment of big name tiger SEN @ 1:45
« Reply #87 on: May 05, 2007, 01:05:21 AM »
Gaspar at his best was the best spoiler of the ball in the comp, he had a great knack for spoiling to his own advantage too, and collecting his own spoils helped him to elevate himself to the elite of the comp. I used to enjoy watching him twist and turn and he was always a pretty good bet of evading his opponent, nonetheless he always had bad habits in his game that frustrated me. I used to go crazy when he didn't help out fellow defenders, he always seemed unwilling to come in from the side and lay some body on a one on one.

His return from the knee reco was embarrassing for everyone, his loss of agility and confidence affected him badly, I mean some of his plays were absurd, I remember being really angry at first, but this guy who sits nearby just laughed his head off at all of his comical mistakes, I learned a bit from that guy actually, whenever Richmond lost you could always have a laugh on the way home, recalling Gaspar's errors.

True story, I phoned the club with a complaint about Gaspar circa mid 04, I pleasantly suggested that I thought he would be better off in the lower grade for a while and could that message kindly be passed on to Mr.Frawley (OK I may be exaggerating the tone of the call a little but you know what I mean)
Next day Danny Frawley's PA called me up and the conversation went something like this:

PA: Hi Danny Frawley's PA here from the rfc, responding to your concerns
me: Danny Frawley has a PA?
PA: Yes. Now what exactly were your concerns?
me: Darren Gaspar. He is playing really badly at the moment. He is really costing us
PA: He is coming back from a knee reco don't you know...
me: He is playing terrible footy and should be put in the reserves until he starts getting a kick again.
PA: Do you think Collingwood would bring up Nathan Buckley through the reserves?
me: (shocked) HE AINT NO NATHAN BUCKLEY!  :banghead
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Tiger policy pushes Gaspar out (The Age)
« Reply #88 on: May 05, 2007, 02:53:18 AM »
Tiger policy pushes Gaspar out
Michael Gleeson | May 5, 2007
The Age

Six months after signing a one-year contract, Darren Gaspar has been pushed out of the Richmond side and into retirement by a youth policy the club insists has nothing to do with its winless start to the year.

In an ironic move, Gaspar will now coach the clutch of defenders responsible for making him redundant.

Gaspar was told on Wednesday, five rounds into the season, that circumstances had changed and he now would be likely to play the rest of the year for Coburg in the VFL.

Coach Terry Wallace insists the circumstance that changed was the form of young players pressing for Gaspar's job, and not that after losing the first five matches, the Tigers were preparing for next season and beyond.

"I believe my form over the first five games this year has been reasonable," Gaspar said. "I have had two very good games, two in which I did my job and one which I believe was below par. It has been made clear to me that my form was not the issue - it is about developing the players for the future.

"When I signed on last year, I expected every opportunity to earn my spot in the team, as you would. When I learnt that this was not the case, I was surprised and very disappointed."

Gaspar's manager, Ron Joseph, said he was surprised at the talk this week about the level of opportunity Gaspar would get, given the debate in the pre-season over whether Andrew Kellaway or Gaspar would be cut, before Gaspar was signed to a new contract.

"It's very, very disappointing," Joseph said. "Terry is an extraordinarily good spin doctor, but if we put aside the spin and get down to football, I mean the clear evidence is there as to why they have made this decision (alluding to the winless start to the year)."

Joseph said that had Gaspar known in the pre-season that he would be likely to play the season in the VFL, then he would have been unlikely to have signed his contract.

"I have been around long enough to know not everyone gets the fairytale finish. I understand the position the club is in and I respect that they have to make decisions and the club has to move forward. I am not bitter at all. We will move on," he said.

Wallace said the decision was based on the improved form of Luke McGuane and Kelvin Moore, who last night was promoted to the seniors in Gaspar's place for tomorrow's Telstra Dome clash with Geelong. Will Thursfield is the most likely long-term stuff but he is recovering from a knee reconstruction.

"His form was not horrid by any stretch of the imagination but we got to the stage where some of the younger players in our side had the equal form to what Darren had," Wallace said.

"Now where we are at, when Darren was ahead of them in form Darren played, but once those guys had caught up to him, all of a sudden the upside of playing those players outweighs anything else and we need to support them and start to play them.

"Are we conceding the season? Absolutely not - I would say the other way; we have got guys who are in the equal form of Darren who we need to play. Our VFL side is on the top of the ladder and performing extremely well.

"I just feel a little bit cheated that I only got the last couple of years with Darren. I would have loved to have coached Darren prior to his knee," he said.

In addition to Moore, Richmond promoted two more youngsters for tomorrow's game, Matt White and Danny Meyer.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tiger-policy-pushes-gaspar-out/2007/05/04/1177788402196.html

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Youth policy KOs Gaspar (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #89 on: May 05, 2007, 02:55:05 AM »
Youth policy KOs Gaspar
05 May 2007   Herald-Sun

RICHMOND'S Darren Gaspar retired in disappointment yesterday after the dual All-Australian and coach Terry Wallace disagreed over his continued worth as an AFL stuff.

Gaspar struggled to hide his hurt as he called an immediate end to his 14-season, 228-game career after he was told younger teammates had caught up to him during Richmond's opening five losses.

Having been told on Wednesday that Richmond wanted to promote younger backmen, Gaspar, 30, decided to retire immediately, even though he had been named in the starting line-up against Geelong at Telstra Dome tomorrow.

"It has been made clear to me that my form was not the issue, it was about developing the players for the future," Gaspar said, reading from a statement.

"When I signed on last year (a one-season contract extension) I expected every opportunity to earn my spot in the team, as you would.

"When I learned this wasn't the case, I was surprised and very disappointed.

"I have no option but to respect the club's decision and I believe they will respect my decision to move on."

Gaspar's spot in the team to take on the Cats has been taken by young defender Kelvin Moore.

Two more youngsters, Matt White and Danny Meyer, were also brought in, replacing Gaspar, Greg Tivendale and Shane Edwards.

Gaspar and Wallace both used the word "respect" during their press conference, but their parting appeared a messy one.

However, Gaspar said he wanted to continue working with Richmond's next generation of key defenders, which includes Luke McGuane and Will Thursfield.

Wallace said his preference was for the veteran to stick out the year as insurance against injuries, although he insisted Richmond wanted to show Gaspar more respect than having him "wallow" in the VFL.

"We didn't make the decision for Darren to retire, that's Darren's decision and in his own rights," he said.

Wallace said he had shown Gaspar respect by having a "straight-line talk" with him, with club captain Kane Johnson in tow.

Wallace told Gaspar younger players had drawn level with him on performance.

"In our situation, when Darren was ahead of them in form, Darren was played," Wallace said.

"But once those guys had caught up to him, all of a sudden we believe the upside of playing those players outweighed everything else."

Gaspar admitted he was disappointed by Wallace's reasoning.

"The way they explained it to me was disappointing, but life goes on and I've got to deal with that," he said.

Wallace denied Richmond's call on Gaspar put other senior players on notice, and he said favouring youth was not a sign that the Tigers had written off 2007.

Gaspar, who on Thursday became the father of twin girls, said he would retire proud of his achievements and with no regrets.

He said his debut game and the 2001 finals series were his highlights, but said he would remain bitter at never achieving premiership success.

He was also proud of being able to handle the scrutiny put on him in the past five years, when his kicking and form fell away while he was on a long-term, big-money contract.

Gaspar was chosen by Sydney with the No. 1 pick in the 1993 national draft, before being claimed in the pre-season draft by Richmond in 1996.

He won Richmond's best-and-fairest award in 2001 and won All-Australian selection in 2000 and 2001.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21674329^20322,00.html