Kevin Sheedy threads [merged]

[Moi]

The fact that he has mounted a public campaign through the media, with KB, KB! KB? KB the bloke that turned his back on the RFC for the last 20 years. Its a disgrace, and is a real insight in the challenges the RFC has had to endure over the last 10 years.

Not to mention mounting his campaign via his online propaganda merchant 
Sheedy is a bigger snake oil salesman that you know who.
Shifty Sheeds, no words were truer of this bloke   

that comment is the biggest lkoad of poo i have ever read.

i would NEVER be putting sheeds and wallace in the same breath. Sheeds has done more for the game than Wallace could ever dream of.

boys and agirls you better get used to it.

SHEEDS WILL BE OUR NEXT COACH.

Sheedy has done heaps for the game but he is still Shifty
This episode has proven that with him going through Bartlett to mount his case
If he is appointed coach, I will live with it Daniel
If he is successful, I will party with him
If he is not, then questions will be asked won't they dear 

[Francois Jackson]

Always interesting to find ot the sentiment on this site, as i do think its only the hard line richmond supporter's that post. I can't think of a problem with Sheedy taking over as coach next year. He would not take the job if he didnt think we could be succesful in the next five years and at this point i'll take that. 2 years out of the game and has got the passion back & he loves the club as much as any one. I think a combination of Sheedy and Hardwick/Brad Scott type in an assistant role would bring the best of both worlds.

gee that is a big assumption.

and it is wrong

Sheedy is a senile old bastard that is taking his last opportunity to milk this club, just like he did come contract time over the last 27 years.

Senile ? Not a bad sort of senile then considering the list he has left at essendon.
You better get used to sheeds back at punt Rd Blaisee

we should string sheeds along the same way he strung us along for 27 years. We owe him no favours...none

The fact that he has mounted a public campaign through the media, with KB, KB! KB? KB the bloke that turned his back on the RFC for the last 20 years. Its a disgrace, and is a real insight in the challenges the RFC has had to endure over the last 10 years.

We need people that put the club first and themselves second, unfortunately KB and Sheeds both, do not qualify.

If he wants the job he should go through the process of interviews just like anyone else, in this process it will become clear that he is finished and a BETTER more CONTEMPORARY applicanmt will be appointed, that is my expectation.

If he really wants the job Sheeds should give it his best shot, unfortunately for him and the past players association, I doubt he still has the ability to get the job done, the board know this and have to deal with it in a professional matter, and then rule it out !!!!

your dreaming pal.

its a done deal. no interviews required

Im a realist and i hope we go through the whole process but its becoming more obvious that sheeds has his papers stamped for the top gig.

FFS WHY CANT WE SIGN UP SOS OR SUMICH. WE DONT NEED SHEEDS OR KB OR WALLET WE NEED A WOG DOWN THERE. A WOG WILL CLEAN UP THE PLACE

[1965]

Well, I was telling you what I think 
And who cares who you prefer 

On another matter, why the name change?

Finished hiding from past ghosts?

 

[Moi]

Well, I was telling you what I think 
And who cares who you prefer 

On another matter, why the name change?

Finished hiding from past ghosts?

 

What are you talking about ghosts?
I have no ghosts lol
It was my original name
I didn't get banned from here when I first dropped it.

On another matter, why have you turned this thread personal against me?
Why don't you answer about Campbell's experience like I mentioned earlier?
Because maybe I have a point and this is all a facade because you have no answers?

Nice diversion, 1965 

[yellowandback]

A reasonable article until the last line.

You reckon?
The club has been wronged by Sheedy and Bartlett.  Both could've achieved the same outcome behind closed doors.

They have put unnecessary pressure on the club. They are both selfish and self serving.

bartlett and sheeds have a history of putting themselves above the club, this is just another example to add to a long list.

The club will hopefully come out soon and make a public statment saying that all apllicants will have to go through the same process. I expect sheedy to then decline the offer and make up an excuse.

In the meantime we should leave no stone unturned, the list of applicants is very impressive indeed

Sheeds as director of coaching handling the Media with Cambo doing the match day coaching.

Sheeds on the bench motivating the troops and Cambo in the box.

Gives us three years to evaluate Cambo and gives Cambo three years to learn the trade.

I say we have no choice but to do this.

If Cambo comes good we have started another coaching dynasty and set us up for long term success with a Richmond man at the helm.

 

It is a good theory and makes sense.  But remember, Sheeds went through the process at Melbourne and did not make the grade.  So I'm not sure what is going to change - despite his 2 years away to "refresh" and the fact it appears Dean Bailey is looking to be on shaky ground.
The only issue that I see with your post is the statement "it is our only option".  We have some great candidates with a breadth of options - experienced assistants, high profile newbies "Bucks" and of course the elder statesman.

May be best man win.

[blaisee]

A reasonable article until the last line.

You reckon?
The club has been wronged by Sheedy and Bartlett.  Both could've achieved the same outcome behind closed doors.

They have put unnecessary pressure on the club. They are both selfish and self serving.

bartlett and sheeds have a history of putting themselves above the club, this is just another example to add to a long list.

The club will hopefully come out soon and make a public statment saying that all apllicants will have to go through the same process. I expect sheedy to then decline the offer and make up an excuse.

In the meantime we should leave no stone unturned, the list of applicants is very impressive indeed

Sheeds as director of coaching handling the Media with Cambo doing the match day coaching.

Sheeds on the bench motivating the troops and Cambo in the box.

Gives us three years to evaluate Cambo and gives Cambo three years to learn the trade.

I say we have no choice but to do this.

If Cambo comes good we have started another coaching dynasty and set us up for long term success with a Richmond man at the helm.

 

what has campbell ever done to deserve a senior coaching job?

Is he on the list that North are targetting ? no. Why? Because he doesnt deserve to be

[the_boy_jake]

Not been at all impressed by Bailey @ Melbourne. They have been playing Wallace style basketball lately.

Whichever way we go I hope we are faithful to the process without bias.

There is romanticism about Sheeds coming back. There is also fanaticism about going with a young coach, whether anointed by the press as a future premiership coach (e.g. Mark Harvey a couple of seasons back) or not (Bailey).

Having Sheeds available is actually a good option to consider and one that North wont have. If we go through the process it won't be anything less than a positive. Only if the board waver is it a problem. I think the current hysteria and commotion says more about the faith we have in the board (and the quality of those people) than Sheeds himself.

[bojangles17]

To say that the game has passed Sheedy by is just a guess.

Apart from stuff being a Bartlett sycophant and fellow broadcaster   I'll ignore the rest of his propaganda and just concentrate on this sentence.

stuff, we cannot afford to make guesses with this bloke.  This is not an appointment Richmond can stuff up. If there's any chance the game has passed him by, we cannot take that chance.

Basically Patrick, we have to take all the romance of the situation out of it.  Everyone knows at the club - or should know if they've been around footy for a while -that you will hound the club if they get it wrong, Sheedy or not.  So it's a decision not to be treated frivolously, just because a couple of coterie groups and former players want him.

Proper process, stuff, proper process.  It's an insult to the other candidates as well not to do that.  We'd never get anyone applying for jobs in the future if proper process wasn't followed.

If we take the right route, Sheedy may be your man.  If you have so much confidence in his abilities, those abilities will stand him head and shoulders above all the others.  And if he doesn't come up to scratch, then he is not for us is he?

At the very least Bartlett has forced the club to take Sheedy seriously where it previously might not have. Cameron meets Sheedy tomorrow. This will shape the club's future, for not only must the club consider what Sheedy can do at the controls of the team but also what might happen without him. If Richmond fares no better with Sheedy occupied elsewhere, the decision not to anoint him will haunt March, Cameron and the club perhaps for eternity.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25729749-12270,00.html

Precisely what I said on another thread, because Bartlett has opened his fat trap about this, the club will be damned if they appoint Sheeds and damned if they don't.  Everyone knows that if Sheedy is appointed, the club will be criticised for taking him based on emotion, or we didn't follow due process and picked the best candidate, or whatever.  They'll damn us either way  

I wish Bartlett had just shut up and let the club make the decisions.  

He bragged on radio yesterday that while he was away from the club he never sat back and undermined it or played politics.  No, I don't believe he did.  So why start meddling now? Have some confidence in the people who have the job to select the coach.

If Sheeds is appointed, there will always be this cloud over the reasons he was appointed IMO because of this, ie were the club pressured into making the appointment if he is chosen.

well said froarsy ol pal...due diligence must take its course

[wayne]

A reasonable article until the last line.

What does that last sentence mean?? 

[1965]

A reasonable article until the last line.

What does that last sentence mean?? 

The sexist demeaning use of the word "pussy" was out of character with the rest of the article.

And totally unnecessary.

'65

[mightytiges]

The Kevins have Tigers' board by the tail
Jake Niall | July 3, 2009

KEVIN Sheedy and Richmond are high-school sweethearts who never managed to get the timing right as adults.

When Richmond wanted him, he was happily ensconced with a more attractive partner — Essendon. The old yellow and black flame tried to get him back at least twice but, on each occasion, he preferred the stability of his prosperous long-term relationship with the steady Dons to jumping into bed with the tempestuous Tigers.

Now, the dynamics have reversed. Sheeds wants Richmond more than the Tigers want him. But because Kevin is an old flame, for whom the club retains some affection (and a marketing role), the club must pay him the respect of listening to his pitch and giving it due consideration.

The marketing role was a way of saying, "let's just be friends". The club also invited him to be part of the panel that determines the next coach — an invitation Sheedy declined, for reasons that are now obvious. He cannot appoint himself.

A spot on analogy.

Waldron today btw said Leon Daphne first tried to get Sheeds after Northey left and before we took on Walls. So we tried in 1995, 99 and in the 2000s and were rejected every time.

let you in on a little secret MT
sheeds was going to go back at the end of the spud era, but one greg miller got in the way , as he wanted wallace

You mean he was playing us off again to get a new deal at Essendon like he had always done. He only wants us now because his former lover dumped him for someone younger lol.   

[1965]

He only wants us now because his former lover dumped him for someone younger lol.   

Does this mean that if Sheeds gets the job I'll have to sleep with him?

I think I might change my mind.

 

[Jackstar is back]

A reasonable article until the last line.

You reckon?
The club has been wronged by Sheedy and Bartlett.  Both could've achieved the same outcome behind closed doors.

They have put unnecessary pressure on the club. They are both selfish and self serving.

bartlett and sheeds have a history of putting themselves above the club, this is just another example to add to a long list.

The club will hopefully come out soon and make a public statment saying that all apllicants will have to go through the same process. I expect sheedy to then decline the offer and make up an excuse.

In the meantime we should leave no stone unturned, the list of applicants is very impressive indeed

Sheeds as director of coaching handling the Media with Cambo doing the match day coaching.

Sheeds on the bench motivating the troops and Cambo in the box.

Gives us three years to evaluate Cambo and gives Cambo three years to learn the trade.

I say we have no choice but to do this.

If Cambo comes good we have started another coaching dynasty and set us up for long term success with a Richmond man at the helm.

 

1965, have you been reading my emails?

[mightytiges]

To say that the game has passed Sheedy by is just a guess.

Apart from stuff being a Bartlett sycophant and fellow broadcaster   I'll ignore the rest of his propaganda and just concentrate on this sentence.

stuff, we cannot afford to make guesses with this bloke.  This is not an appointment Richmond can stuff up. If there's any chance the game has

Not so much of a guess based on 3aw last night. Towards the end Sheeds had players turning up to games not knowing what role they were playing. His methods had become dated and he was out of touch with their younger players. There's also the story of a certain young Bomber at the time who would be leading their B&F this year who asked Sheeds what he had to do to become a better footballer and after 20 mins walked away not having a clue. Sheeds was a great coach for 20 years but his time has passed.

[Moi]

A reasonable article until the last line.

You think lol
According to Mellow on BF three years ago he was calling for Sheeds to get the sack