Kevin Sheedy threads [merged]

[one-eyed]

Kevin Sheedy hears opportunity knocking at Richmond
Jackie Epstein | July 05, 2009

KEVIN Sheedy touched down from the Gold Coast yesterday and made a beeline for Flemington.

His horse Bel Shoes was running in the second, but it failed to snare a place. He later attended the Essendon 1984-85 premiership reunion function at Crown and will return to Queensland today after meeting the Tigers.

This 61-year-old has energy levels to match an adolescent. Sheedy welcomes any invitation, enjoys most functions and will always come with a smile.

His diary is thicker than the Prime Minister's and is littered with appointments, notes and mutterings about anything from expansion to zoning. All of this will be gleefully cast aside if he gets a chance to coach again.

During our weekly meetings to discuss his Sunday Herald Sun columns, Sheedy has always been in tune with football issues and tactics.

He is rarely on time, but he also makes time. If he can answer his phone he will and he eventually returns calls.

It is amazing how many people still recognise and relate to him. Mostly it's Sheedy initiating the interaction.

He asks waiters about their background, he says hello whenever someone walks by and isn't fussed when they return puzzled looks.

Finally, on Wednesday, he confirmed what most close to him already know. He wants to coach, feels he has much to offer and Richmond's job is firmly in his sights.

Strategic yes, surprising no.

Previously he played a straight bat to repeated questioning on the issue. As president of the AFL Coaches Association, he wanted to be diplomatic, but it was only a matter of timing. He often says a coach is rarely given the boot while the side sits in the eight. That's what happened to him at Essendon through season 2007.

But what seemed to irk him more was the public rejection he endured when Melbourne overlooked him as senior coach. When he refers to the wooden spoons he was saved from "winning" with the Demons you can sense the sting amid the jest.

It was a slap in the face for a legendary coach and the desire to prove critics wrong has lingered.

Management would not be his strong suit, but that's where his personal assistant comes in. Without Jeanette Curwood he may well be unaware which country he was meant to be in next week.

Who knows if he is a nose in front or the length of the straight behind. Richmond is nevertheless prepared to listen, and so it should.

What we do know is that a man who carries himself with such pride does not open the door so wide if there's a risk of it slamming shut in his face. Especially not if it has happened already.

Sheedy knows he had to voice his interest while other candidates came to the fore and the process got under way. Importantly, he also knew he would have heavyweight backing.

It might be ego, it might be wishful thinking.

It might also be a masterstroke.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25734118-19742,00.html

[Ramps]

WASNT Patrick Smith a media cheerleader for the Clinton Casey Greg Miller Ticket?

OR is my memory on this issue tricking me. 

[Moi]

No, just curious on your thoughts on Campbell's inexperience, but you keep avoiding the issue by getting personal with me.
No, I've never been a teacher in any form.
I'm just little 'ol me who apparently is a nasty little cow who sugar coats everything
Despite the fact I was just talking about Cambo's inexperience.
 
Can't get any clearer than that 

The victim are we?

Give me a break.

You sound like one of the mods on another forum.

"Answer my question or else"

 

Well no you don't have to answer, I'm no Nazi
But the fact you don't just means you're a weak gutless idiot for having a go at me for no reason
 

[Moi]

Got I hate the spelling police on messageboards
Idiot is not what I wrote 

[Jackstar is back]

Always interesting to find ot the sentiment on this site, as i do think its only the hard line richmond supporter's that post. I can't think of a problem with Sheedy taking over as coach next year. He would not take the job if he didnt think we could be succesful in the next five years and at this point i'll take that. 2 years out of the game and has got the passion back & he loves the club as much as any one. I think a combination of Sheedy and Hardwick/Brad Scott type in an assistant role would bring the best of both worlds.

Love Hollywood Palace

gee that is a big assumption.

and it is wrong

Sheedy is a senile old bastard that is taking his last opportunity to milk this club, just like he did come contract time over the last 27 years.

Senile ? Not a bad sort of senile then considering the list he has left at essendon.
You better get used to sheeds back at punt Rd Blaisee

we should string sheeds along the same way he strung us along for 27 years. We owe him no favours...none

The fact that he has mounted a public campaign through the media, with KB, KB! KB? KB the bloke that turned his back on the RFC for the last 20 years. Its a disgrace, and is a real insight in the challenges the RFC has had to endure over the last 10 years.

We need people that put the club first and themselves second, unfortunately KB and Sheeds both, do not qualify.

If he wants the job he should go through the process of interviews just like anyone else, in this process it will become clear that he is finished and a BETTER more CONTEMPORARY applicanmt will be appointed, that is my expectation.

If he really wants the job Sheeds should give it his best shot, unfortunately for him and the past players association, I doubt he still has the ability to get the job done, the board know this and have to deal with it in a professional matter, and then rule it out !!!!

your dreaming pal.

its a done deal. no interviews required

Im a realist and i hope we go through the whole process but its becoming more obvious that sheeds has his papers stamped for the top gig.

FFS WHY CANT WE SIGN UP SOS OR SUMICH. WE DONT NEED SHEEDS OR KB OR WALLET WE NEED A WOG DOWN THERE. A WOG WILL CLEAN UP THE PLACE

Hollywood Palace is where the interviews should take place. Its where RFC Press Conferences should occur. Hollywood Palace is the place to be 

[WilliamPowell]

For the Tigers' sake, Sheedy should put his hand back down

Caroline Wilson | July 8, 2009

THE last thing Richmond needed was for Kevin Sheedy to put his hand up for the Tigers' coaching position. In a move as potentially divisive as it was contrary, Sheedy began galvanising support from a small but influential group of past players last month and last week launched the juggernaut via his old teammate Kevin Bartlett.

In doing so he has let down the club that embraced him late last year, offering Sheedy a paid position, which proved a fitting off-shoot to his ambassadorial role with the AFL — a role now surely rendered untenable.

He has done his bit in terms of lifting memberships and no one is questioning his motives, but it seems bizarre that Sheedy has chosen to ignore some more than subtle hints that have come his way regarding the coaching job.

Richmond made it clear when it employed him that there was no football role available and president Gary March told The Footy Show on the eve of the season that his personal opinion was that Sheedy would not be looked at as the next Tigers' coach.

The fact that March and his football boss, Craig Cameron, asked Sheedy to join the club's coaching subcommittee would indicate they had no intention of appointing him to the job. March's personal view is echoed by most of the board, two of whom — Rob Dalton and Don Lord — will sit in on the final selection process.

Sheedy and Essendon parted company because, after 27 years, the Bombers wanted to reinvigorate the club with a new mentor who could win the trust of his players and inject a new discipline into Windy Hill. Every time an Essendon player opens his mouth these days he seems to focus on how preparation and communication have lifted the group as a whole.

The two had perhaps tired of each other and when Sheedy applied for the Melbourne job soon afterwards he looked to be going through the motions. He was considered only because of a brilliant history, offering nothing compelling for the future.

Now Bartlett says Sheedy is reinvigorated and refreshed but he offered only Sheedy's past as evidence of that. The campaign smacks of knee jerk after the Tigers' shocking loss to St Kilda 10 days ago. Bartlett only relatively recently made peace with Richmond and appeared to be supportive of the strict resolve adopted by the March-led Tigers after so many coaching appointments made for the wrong reasons.

Now the respected commentator, who quit the Hall of Fame committee partly because the AFL ignored the correct process and bowed to pressure from the Lou Richards-for-legend campaign, has launched a similar action himself.

Sheedy must be allowed to try for the job; to refuse his application would only further outrage the former players and officials who have held the club to ransom so many times before and are likely to make life miserable for the candidate who eventually wins the position.

And that won't be Sheedy. Not while this board rules the club. Only an extraordinary general meeting could get him over the line, so it must be said that the four-time premiership coach has not embraced the vision of this board and administration.

Sheedy did not go quietly from Essendon and he has not trod carefully since returning to Richmond.
No one at the club underestimates Sheedy's charisma, power, popularity or political nous. But he is not seen as the candidate to lead the club out of the wilderness.

Richmond also knows that this uncaged Tiger could spark a revolution — something the club does not need. Don't do it Kevin.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/stuff-down/2009/07/07/1246732331687.html

[WilliamPowell]

Sometimes I agree with Coar, other times I don't

On this topic and with this article she is 110% correct

And Kudos to someone in the media finally having the guts to say what so many of have known for a long long time about some of the past players holding the club to ransom ... See below:

"Sheedy must be allowed to try for the job; to refuse his application would only further outrage the former players and officials who have held the club to ransom so many times before and are likely to make life miserable for the candidate who eventually wins the position."

 

On this she is so so right 

[the_boy_jake]

Oh righteous Caro, how about you put your pen down next time there is a slow news week and the only dirt you've got concerns Richmond.

[WA Tiger]

Great work Caro, lets hope the "old" RFC players that say they love this club so much actually read this article and take notice. we are not about to launch this football club into the past!!

Fresh faces around the club is whats needed, just look at what it has done at Essendon, wouldn't it be great to hear our players talk about discipline, knowing what they are doing at traing towards a game plan and preperation and communication improvements.

[TigerTime]

why dosnt caro just stfu

she is richmonds spokesperson or the fans rep

sheedy is going through the process and so he should because he is teh best man 4 the job and this process will prove it

melbourne simpley didnt want sheedy bec they couldnt afford him , snow troips were more important!

why dosnt caro write about her father and he was very much involved in stuffing up the club all those yrs ago

[tigersalive]

sheedy is going through the process and so he should because he is teh best man 4 the job and this process will prove it

The process of trying to get an appointment via pressure from the media while other candidates are willing to let their ideas and attitude do the talking.   No one else is holding such a selfish agenda to get the job.   

Hold strong for a change Richmond.  pee the old man off, my respect for Sheedy has taken a vast turn in the past week.

[one-eyed]

KB and Patrick Smith this morning were mocking the whole article and carrying on about what a disgrace it would be if a 4 time premiership coach, 20 years of finals, etc had a line through his name and if so the process isn't transparent.

[tigersalive]

KB and Patrick Smith this morning were mocking the whole article and carrying on about what a disgrace it would be if a 4 time premiership coach, 20 years of finals, etc had a line through his name and if so the process isn't transparent.

Considering even one Damien Barratt was as kind as he could be to Richmond's commitment to the process so far, I don;t care what those two morons with an agenda have to say.

[one-eyed]

ANDREW BEWS: Sheedy should stay in shadows
Geelong Advertiser
July 8th, 2009

Kevin Sheedy Coach of the Tigers for 2010 - what a debacle; some of the old Tigers seem intent on living in the 1970s.

Sheeds was a great coach but spent his time coaching in enemy territory. Move on for God's sake!

You have him down there as an ambassador, what else do you want from the old dog?

For 25 years the yellow in his veins was turned red, give the bloke the opportunity to settle back into his old office - probably the same one he had when he was the junior footy development officer in the 70s and early 80s.

A new era is about to dawn at Richmond, the hierarchy is trying to get it right, for crying out loud let it do it.

Tommy Hafey, KB and Bourkey have all been great personalities for the club but they need to let the past be just that and support the people who are in a position to procure the best young coach in the land.

How long would Sheedy coach the Tigers for anyway?

About three years you'd think, whereas a youngster could potentially be a 10-year proposition.

At the moment Tommy, KB and Bourkey are exerting their influence from the balcony seats like the Muppetts.

Why not put the shoulder to the wheel behind the scenes to get that once great club going in the one direction instead of pulling the opposite way?

Or even worse, trying to gain mileage for self promotion.

Frankly, it's a little embarrassing.

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2009/07/08/83145_geelong_sports.html

[Moi]

KB and Patrick Smith this morning were mocking the whole article and carrying on about what a disgrace it would be if a 4 time premiership coach, 20 years of finals, etc had a line through his name and if so the process isn't transparent.

Sure, it would be a disgrace if the club had put a line through his name and allowed him to go through the process of going for the position knowing they were going to rule him out anyway.

But coming from guys who said Sheeds was the only bloke for the job and there really were no other candidates.

POT - KETTLE - BLACK