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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2007, 03:09:45 PM »
Miller never sold his North Melbourne shares, insisting he was holding them in trust for Bob Ansett.
Because they are not really his shares. Bob Ansett has his North shares spread around a few people to avoid a 5% maximum shareholding rule. Miller is just holding them for Ansett. He votes the way Ansett tells him too.

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It has been said that Terry Wallace — whom Miller appointed to a five-year deal at the end of 2004 as part of Casey's legacy, which left the club in debt to the tune of $4 million — has escaped scrutiny this season. But surely Miller, by any stretch of the imagination, must be seen to have failed the club he joined to help win a premiership.
When was Miller CEO or on the board when Wallace arrived to appoint Wallace himself ???.

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It was put to Miller that the club seems to have gone backwards since he took over. He pointed to the stable board, high membership and successive profits. This was cheeky. That Richmond again will make a million-dollar profit this year without special AFL assistance is, according to the AFL, due to the good work of chief executive Wright.
Yep it is Stephen Wright's work but the question was that the club has gone backwards. The answer is it hasn't. It is still rebuilding itself both on and off the field. 

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Consider Miller's early moves at Richmond. He urged the board to extend Frawley's contract to remove pressure from the coach and in his first draft, he effectively traded away picks two, 18, 28 and 32 for Kane Johnson and Jay Schulz.
Pick 28 was for Justin Blumfield.
We also got pick 41 in that Johnson trade which was used on Tim Fleming. The later picks were swapped.
It should have be mentioned we could have gotten both Sugar and Wells but instead the previous admin under Brayshaw put those wanting to leave on big $$$ and long contracts to keep them at Richmond.

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Time could prove us wrong, but when you look at Richmond's youth in the form of its first, second, third and fourth-year players, they do not present as a potential force in 2011, the year the club has earmarked as high noon on the premiership clock.
That would be 11 on the clock Caro. We would not be consistent finalists until 2011 onwards according to Wallace's presentation. That's 4 years away at least. By then we'll have new facilities, no debt and hence more dough to spend in other areas around the Club that need more $$$. We're only now putting money into recruiting and development where we were the lowest spending club in the comp. And people wonder was mistakes have been made in recruiting and development of players.

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A Richmond premiership player commented before the recent Hawthorn clash that he looked forward to watching the Richmond "pygmies" take on Hawthorn's "land of the giants". That game cruelly exposed two football strategies that left the Tigers wanting. In the Port Adelaide disaster, the club's youth was used as an excuse and yet the Richmond players averaged 64 games to Port's 69.
Agree we are small but taking averages is misleading in our case given the hole in the middle of our list. You cannot compare out more experienced players with those of Port's premiership players and both Port and now Hawthorn this year have a mid-age quality core group. We don't this deep mid-age core.

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Miller vowed to lure old Tigers back to Tigerland but still no former player sits on the Richmond board.
We've had former players on the board during the past 25 years and we were still crap and they were hardly doing what was best for the long-term benefit of the RFC. 

Miller has done some dumb things but sheesh get a new record Caro  :sleep.
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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 03:21:02 PM »
top post MT  :clapping

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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2007, 03:28:55 PM »
who really cares

everyone knows miller is fos and a w@nk

miller poq, go back to ur beloved nearly extinct roos

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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 03:34:17 PM »
Great stuff, MT. You've answered Caro very well.

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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2007, 03:39:53 PM »
If she wants to write about legacy maybe she could compare Clinton's to her old man's - he left us massive debt too IIRC ::) :banghead

OUCH lol  :thumbsup
Double ouch  ;D. WP brings out the sledgehammer :lol

Caro's daddy let 3 Club champions walk out of the Club too and the Club hasn't been the same since  :whistle.
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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2007, 03:43:34 PM »
Miller never sold his North Melbourne shares, insisting he was holding them in trust for Bob Ansett.
If there not his shares he should dispose of them back to Mr Ansett or to someone else to hold them for Mr Ansett.

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It has been said that Terry Wallace — whom Miller appointed to a five-year deal at the end of 2004 as part of Casey's legacy, which left the club in debt to the tune of $4 million — has escaped scrutiny this season. But surely Miller, by any stretch of the imagination, must be seen to have failed the club he joined to help win a premiership.

Greg Miller put himself up as the person who ran the footy department, the person who made the key recommendations in football department. At some stage a person has to be properly evaluated and the fact is we are stone motherless last and the supporters have lost hope.


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It was put to Miller that the club seems to have gone backwards since he took over. He pointed to the stable board, high membership and successive profits. This was cheeky. That Richmond again will make a million-dollar profit this year without special AFL assistance is, according to the AFL, due to the good work of chief executive Wright.

Stephen Wright is the person who lead the business side of the club back to some healthiness. This is indisputable and Wilson is correct on this.


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Consider Miller's early moves at Richmond. He urged the board to extend Frawley's contract to remove pressure from the coach and in his first draft, he effectively traded away picks two, 18, 28 and 32 for Kane Johnson and Jay Schulz.
Pick 28 was for Justin Blumfield- what a great success that was lolm, p41 was used on Fleming another superstar right there. We could have gotten Wells but we were the only club in the country who didnt realise that Carlton were gonna lose there picks- this to me is incomprehensible.



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Time could prove us wrong, but when you look at Richmond's youth in the form of its first, second, third and fourth-year players, they do not present as a potential force in 2011, the year the club has earmarked as high noon on the premiership clock.

In 2004 we had 5 top 20 picks. Unfortunately this wasnt the draft that will put us on the road to a flag, indeed it seems its not even a draft that could make us competitive. Wilson was correct on this as well.



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A Richmond premiership player commented before the recent Hawthorn clash that he looked forward to watching the Richmond "pygmies" take on Hawthorn's "land of the giants". That game cruelly exposed two football strategies that left the Tigers wanting. In the Port Adelaide disaster, the club's youth was used as an excuse and yet the Richmond players averaged 64 games to Port's 69.

Cant disagree.


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Miller vowed to lure old Tigers back to Tigerland but still no former player sits on the Richmond board.

Well thats true as well.
 


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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2007, 03:49:46 PM »

Caro's daddy let 3 Club champions walk out of the Club too and the Club hasn't been the same since  :whistle.
5 club champions.  ;)
Bryan Wood and Brian Taylor also walked out during his presidency.
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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2007, 04:16:36 PM »

Caro's daddy let 3 Club champions walk out of the Club too and the Club hasn't been the same since  :whistle.
5 club champions.  ;)
Bryan Wood and Brian Taylor also walked out during his presidency.
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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2007, 09:56:24 PM »
If she wants to write about legacy maybe she could compare Clinton's to her old man's - he left us massive debt too IIRC ::) :banghead

OUCH lol  :thumbsup
Double ouch  ;D. WP brings out the sledgehammer :lol

Caro's daddy let 3 Club champions walk out of the Club too and the Club hasn't been the same since  :whistle.

Yeah sorry I am so sick of all this crap.

Caro has been carrying on about Clinton Casey for god knows how many years now. He is gone but she brings up the old chestnut every year without fail. If she is going to take pot shots from the comfy of her cheap seat then she deserves a few rockets back. It's all about consistency and balanced reporting
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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2007, 11:40:02 PM »
i think she has another piece in tomorrows age..re: joseph and sheedy plot, word around the place is that perhaps ronny is trying to get wallace to north under wallaces instruction?

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Re: Miller's legacy is toothless Tigers - Caro
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2007, 11:04:06 AM »
everyone knows Ugly Caro writes rubbish but all you supporters continue to read her rubbish & thats what sells media  ;D