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Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« on: August 07, 2007, 03:08:54 AM »
Thomas tells Tigers some home truths
07 August 2007   Herald Sun
Mark Robinson

FORMER St Kilda coach Grant Thomas has delivered a brutally honest assessment to Richmond's players and coaches.

The Tigers' desperate search for success and self respect led the club to ask Thomas to address the club before Saturday's match against Geelong.

The 45-minute address at Punt Rd on Wednesday included individual and group criticism.

It is believed Thomas accused some senior players of being selfish and playing for survival, and said the club had lost its identity and respect throughout the football world.

He tried to explain the reality that several players listening to him would not be at the club in 2008.

The agenda was for Thomas to speak of his experiences of being at a club that was low on the ladder and what steps were taken to improve that position.

Thomas took over at St Kilda from Malcolm Blight in 2001. They finished 15th. In 2002, the club again finished 15th.

Thomas last night declined to comment, as did Richmond coach Terry Wallace.

Tigers football director Greg Miller, however, last night confirmed Wallace had extended the invitation to Thomas.

"Grant was good, the players appreciated it. He was honest, that's the way he is, upfront, frank, honest, bang, this is the way it is boys," Miller said.

"This is what I went through and this is what you have to go through . . . and you either survive or you don't.

"It was good for everyone.

"It was brutal honesty, it was excellent.

"Grant was in an era at St Kilda when he got there where they were on the bottom of the ladder and they had a group of older players, a gap in the middle and (then) all these young kids started at once.

"His group was in a similar situation to what our group is now."

The speech, the first for Thomas at another AFL club, seemingly did not help the Tigers cause.

They lost to Geelong by 70 points and in the post-script, Wallace calmly criticised the senior playing group.

Miller said the club would continue to find ways to improve the team's performance in the final four rounds.

"We are getting games into players we believe can play the game," Miller said. "Daniel Connors was great at the weekend. He's only 18 still. Him and Edwards and Riewoldt are all from last year's draft and are all playing seniors and are all 18.

"And they are all good mates, they get along well."

The Tigers, floundering in 16th position with just one win and a draw from 18 games, say they can push Collingwood on Friday and Essendon in Round 21.

They play West Coast and St Kilda in their other two games.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22200914%255E20322,00.html

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 06:59:44 AM »
this is all well and good

but my question is

why are we getting outsiders in telling us how sh it we are and trying to get a message through

why isnt terry the head coach telling this message and getting it well and truely  sunk in their skulls!

terry is weak

no wonder no one respects him, if he wants ppl to tell the team how they are going, why not speak to us supporters! im sure many of us would love the chance to ram some home truths into their selfish think heads!

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 08:12:20 AM »
Fair enough really, just dont get Grant Thomas  ???
How about someone with credibility and/or respect in football circles - Tommy Hafey, Kevin Sheedy?
Mate even I could tell some of em how pooh they are. But would it sink in coming from me, doubt it. :whistle

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 10:13:06 AM »
Fair enough really, just dont get Grant Thomas  ???
How about someone with credibility and/or respect in football circles - Tommy Hafey, Kevin Sheedy?
Mate even I could tell some of em how pooh they are. But would it sink in coming from me, doubt it. :whistle

A mate of mine went to a Mirboo Nth function last night. Kevin Sheedy and Tom Hafey were guest speakers.

Apparently Tom Hafey really got stuck into Richmond and their coaching and skinny players.
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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 10:54:25 AM »
Fair enough really, just dont get Grant Thomas  ???
How about someone with credibility and/or respect in football circles - Tommy Hafey, Kevin Sheedy?
Mate even I could tell some of em how pooh they are. But would it sink in coming from me, doubt it. :whistle

A mate of mine went to a Mirboo Nth function last night. Kevin Sheedy and Tom Hafey were guest speakers.

Apparently Tom Hafey really got stuck into Richmond and their coaching and skinny players.

so i guess tom hafey is a f stupid w@nk like me , how dare he question the rfc coaching!!!!

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 10:13:13 PM »
I hear it was out of Caro and Thommo to tell the home truths

Thommo got the gig - I hear Caro is now even more depressed  :rollin
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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2007, 02:18:18 AM »
Wallace said it was not unusual for a former rival coach to address his players. "We do it all the time," he said. "Over the past 12 months, we've had David Parkin down at the club, we've had Tony Shaw, Garry Lyon." The club has also been addressed this year by Stuart Diver, who was trapped and rescued in the 1997 Thredbo landslide.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/terri-bracks-visits-tigerland/2007/08/07/1186252707503.html

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2007, 07:48:12 AM »
Wallace said it was not unusual for a former rival coach to address his players. "We do it all the time," he said. "Over the past 12 months, we've had David Parkin down at the club, we've had Tony Shaw, Garry Lyon." The club has also been addressed this year by Stuart Diver, who was trapped and rescued in the 1997 Thredbo landslide.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/terri-bracks-visits-tigerland/2007/08/07/1186252707503.html

when will he understand that this does not work!

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2007, 10:45:43 AM »
its obvious Wallace has no authority over the players  :help :help :help :help :help :help


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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2007, 11:52:12 AM »
Grant who?

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Re: Grant Thomas tells Tigers some home truths to their faces
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2007, 12:04:35 PM »
its obvious Wallace has no authority over the players  :help :help :help :help :help :help



Yeah..that's what we heard about Frawley....except now Jak reckons the boys actually liked him :lol