Carlton-Judd threads [merged]

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Blues, Eagles go it alone over Judd
8/10/2007 4:33:39 PM
Paul Gough
Sportal

Carlton chief executive Greg Swann has confirmed the proposed deal to secure former West Coast Eagles captain Chris Judd will not involve a third party, ruling out a possible deal with Richmond that could have left the Eagles with no compensation for losing the 2004 Brownlow Medallist.

Swann, after meeting with the Eagles on Monday, said both clubs had agreed to do a deal for Judd and it was now only a matter of sorting out the logistics.

Swann remains confident the deal will be done and preferably well before Friday's 2pm deadline.

The Blues have reportedly offered picks three and 20 and talented young key position player Josh Kennedy in exchange for Judd but the Eagles are adamant that in losing the player widely acknowledged as the best player in the game they are entitled to the first pick in the national draft as compensation.

Full article at: http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/AFL-news-display/blues,-eagles-go-it-alone-over-judd-36972

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swann is making out this is going to be simple and all their way, but this deal isnt done yet and is far from being completed.

wce must keep on demanding pick 1

[one-eyed]

Schwarz on SEN is saying by all reports a deal will be done by this time tomorrow. 

[mightytiges]

swann is making out this is going to be simple and all their way, but this deal isnt done yet and is far from being completed.

wce must keep on demanding pick 1

Ch 10 News apparently said the Eagles have accepted that pick 1 won't be part of a trade. That basically cuts us out of it and is pretty weak by the Eagles if true.

[Ramps]

swann is making out this is going to be simple and all their way, but this deal isnt done yet and is far from being completed.

wce must keep on demanding pick 1

Ch 10 News apparently said the Eagles have accepted that pick 1 won't be part of a trade. That basically cuts us out of it and is pretty weak by the Eagles if true.

its not the end of the world if they dont get 1. the eagles still need pick 2 or better to guarantee the player they want. Pick 3 doesnt get them that. that opens them up to a trade of something like 2 and coughlan for 3 and 13 

and whilst some might say its a bad deal the reality is that the game was going beyond coughlan before he did hes knees. hes now done 2 knee recos and hes going to slower again still.

[mightytiges]

swann is making out this is going to be simple and all their way, but this deal isnt done yet and is far from being completed.

wce must keep on demanding pick 1

Ch 10 News apparently said the Eagles have accepted that pick 1 won't be part of a trade. That basically cuts us out of it and is pretty weak by the Eagles if true.

its not the end of the world if they dont get 1. the eagles still need pick 2 or better to guarantee the player they want. Pick 3 doesnt get them that. that opens them up to a trade of something like 2 and coughlan for 3 and 13 

and whilst some might say its a bad deal the reality is that the game was going beyond coughlan before he did hes knees. hes now done 2 knee recos and hes going to slower again still.

If the Eagles wanted Morton I would consider it as we could still get Cotchin at 3. But they apparently want Cotchin no matter what his dad says so while offloading Cogs we'd be also counting ourselves out of another natural ballwinner.

[Ramps]

if the RFC have decided on cale morton then the consideration for Cotchin doesnt come into it.

[mightytiges]

if the RFC have decided on cale morton then the consideration for Cotchin doesnt come into it.

That's what I'm afraid of  . Heaven forbid the Club drafts someone who actually plays in a position we need along the spine with our first picks. I hope Foley enjoys having to win all our centre clearances single-handedly again. 

[Ramps]

if the RFC have decided on cale morton then the consideration for Cotchin doesnt come into it.

That's what I'm afraid of  . Heaven forbid the Club drafts someone who actually plays in a position we need along the spine with our first picks. I hope Foley enjoys having to win all our centre clearances single-handedly again. 

I agree on many points, but unfortunately all we are hearing is morton and hooper - who wont help us where we need to improve the side and blake who- fair dinkum, he'll be back playing for coburg2s by about round 8. This isnt the correct course of action and we will go nowhere recruiting like this.

[Francois Jackson]

time will tell if its another year of pathetic recruiting on behalf of the RFC.

if this morton deal goes through then u know who we r getting in the PSD and with that comes another bottom 2 finish

we need Cotchin and another quality mid

[mightytiges]

if the RFC have decided on cale morton then the consideration for Cotchin doesnt come into it.

That's what I'm afraid of  . Heaven forbid the Club drafts someone who actually plays in a position we need along the spine with our first picks. I hope Foley enjoys having to win all our centre clearances single-handedly again. 

I agree on many points, but unfortunately all we are hearing is morton and hooper - who wont help us where we need to improve the side and blake who- fair dinkum, he'll be back playing for coburg2s by about round 8. This isnt the correct course of action and we will go nowhere recruiting like this.

Sadly agree Ramps. Footy is won in the midfield and down the spine yet you wouldn't think it is by this kind of recruiting. Mindboggling  .

The other thing is if we are wanting Morton, Hooper and Blake then two of them will have to be traded for which means less kids picked up in the draft.

Anyway nothing has actually happened yet so hopefully sanity will prevail by the Friday deadline. I'd rather us do nothing this week than trade for more flankers  .

[one-eyed]

Blues forum are saying Carlton have offered the Eagles two options.

i) Picks 3, 20 + Kennedy for Judd + Pick 30.

ii) Picks 3, 20 + 36 for Judd + Pick 46

Eagles may choose the 2nd option given Kennedy is all that keen on going and the Eagles don't rate him highly. They also claimed at the start they wanted only picks.

Make of that what you will.

[one-eyed]

Eagles cave in to Blues on Judd
Greg Denham | October 09, 2007 | The Australian

WEST COAST last night conceded it would not get Carlton's priority draft selection as compensation for losing its captain Chris Judd, but remained optimistic a deal with the Blues could be completed by tomorrow at the latest.

Eagles recruiting manager Trevor Woodhouse described yesterday's negotiations with Carlton as meaningful.

"The trouble for us is that we don't hold any aces, which makes it difficult with only one party bidding," Woodhouse said.

"The likelihood of getting the first pick is unlikely, so we'll probably have to concede on that.

"With pick one you control your own destiny in the draft so we've given a bit there."

Both the Blues and the Eagles compromised by backing down yesterday.

Carlton withdrew its threat of a proposal to involve Richmond to freeze out West Coast, which could have ended up with nothing as compensation for losing its 2004 Brownlow medallist.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22553251-5012432,00.html

[one-eyed]

Kennedy prefers Carlton
Jake Niall | October 9, 2007 | The Age

Josh Kennedy's manager, Wayne Loxley, said last night that Kennedy would prefer to remain with Carlton, having just signed a two-year contract extension with the club that drafted him at pick four in 2005.

But Loxley indicated that Kennedy would be willing to consider joining the Eagles if Carlton considered it "imperative" that he went to ensure the Judd trade.

"Josh loves Carlton and is looking forward to remaining there, but he's also … aware that it's a business and if Carlton decide that he should go, well, I think Josh will sit and listen to what they've got to say," Loxley said.

Full article at: http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/kennedy-prefers-carlton/2007/10/08/1191695823239.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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1/ why would kennedy prefer carlton, does notmake sense to me, maybe he knows he wont get a game in a good team

2/ wce, if they cave in this easy then they are soft. maybe they are all on drugs there and are vulnerable and weak at the negotiating table. weak coast eagles