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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #570 on: October 09, 2007, 09:58:51 PM »
our only hope i reckon is if the eagles decide to hang tough on this...if they do we have a chance for judd mind you if carlton offered us pick 3 late on friday to let judd through in the psd id take it.

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #571 on: October 09, 2007, 10:01:51 PM »
our only hope i reckon is if the eagles decide to hang tough on this...if they do we have a chance for judd mind you if carlton offered us pick 3 late on friday to let judd through in the psd id take it.

cotchin and morton and everyone is happy.

but I thought you could not just hand over a pick, so we would also have to send something satisfactory to Carlton

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #572 on: October 09, 2007, 10:15:17 PM »
i'd be very surprised if Judd ened up at tigerland.



agree

If carlton dont give pick 1, that is gunna happen


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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #573 on: October 10, 2007, 12:07:30 AM »
our only hope i reckon is if the eagles decide to hang tough on this...if they do we have a chance for judd mind you if carlton offered us pick 3 late on friday to let judd through in the psd id take it.
The main thing to offering picks 2 + 18 is to force Carlton to cough up pick 1 for Judd knowing the Eagles rate Cotchin as No. 1 pick and we get Kreuzer with pick 2. Judd is the fallback option if this fails  ;D.  The Eagles don't lose out either. They've just eliminated the risk of losing Judd for nothing. They get picks 1 + 20 + maybe Kennedy off Carlton or our offer of picks 2 +18 which is better than Carlton's current lousy offer of pick 3 + Kennedy.
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Judd price tag to scare Tigers (The Age)
« Reply #574 on: October 10, 2007, 12:22:09 AM »
$2m a year if he goes into the PSD?

Judd is coming out of this looking a "tad" greedy?  And his manager???


http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/judd-price-tag-to-scare-tigers/2007/10/09/1191695909394.html

Judd price tag to scare Tigers
Jake Niall | October 10, 2007

RICHMOND has been warned that it would have to pay Chris Judd up to $2 million if it concocted a deal with West Coast that would put the champion in the pre-season draft.

As Carlton and West Coast moved a step closer to a deal — with pick three and young key forward Josh Kennedy already agreed upon — Judd's management is believed to have cautioned the Tigers against striking a "Veale deal" with the Eagles that would force Judd to Richmond via the pre-season draft against his wishes.

The extreme scenario that led the Judd camp to caution Richmond was the prospect that West Coast — unhappy with Carlton's offer and the lack of alternative bids for Judd — would deal exclusively with Richmond, and give up pick two, 18 and perhaps 19, and in return would let Judd go into the pre-season draft.

Under this scenario, Mitch Morton also would be sent to Richmond — a deal that is close to finalisation, regardless of the outcome of Judd negotiations.

Aware of this possibility, Carlton and Judd's manager Paul Connors determined that Judd could be priced beyond Richmond's reach, with Connors contacting Richmond football director Greg Miller to let him know that an unprecedented price would be placed on Judd's head in the event that he was forced into the pre-season draft.

Miller is believed to have responded that no price would frighten the Tigers, but last night he said: "We have reasonable room in the salary cap. I'm not sure I have $2 million, but we have reasonable room."

Richmond is believed to have had discussions with West Coast about scenarios that could involve the pre-season draft.

The Eagles, understandably, are mindful of their difficult bargaining position, with Carlton the only club bidding for Judd's services, and needed the Tigers involved.

Miller reiterated that Richmond was interested in Judd only in the event "that things don't work out with Carlton".

Richmond also has had discussions with Carlton about a pre-season deal in which the Blues would give up pick three and perhaps swap picks in return for the Tigers passing on Judd and letting him cross to Carlton, without the Eagles receiving any compensation.

As it stands today, Carlton is willing to give up pick three and Kennedy — who is reluctant to leave the Blues, but is willing to entertain the move back to his home state. West Coast is not satisfied and wants more compensation for arguably the best player in the competition.

The Blues appeared ready to offer pick 20 as well, but wanted West Coast's second-round selection, pick 30, back in return.

The problem with the pick 20 situation is that West Coast already has pledged to give pick 30 to Richmond as a part of the Morton deal — giving up pick 19 and getting 30 in return.
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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #575 on: October 10, 2007, 12:36:39 AM »
our only hope i reckon is if the eagles decide to hang tough on this...if they do we have a chance for judd mind you if carlton offered us pick 3 late on friday to let judd through in the psd id take it.

cotchin and morton and everyone is happy.

but I thought you could not just hand over a pick, so we would also have to send something satisfactory to Carlton
Yep. We would have to swap pick 18 + a fringer player to get pick 3. I don't think we'd do it either. It would be screwing the Eagles and may come back to burn us in the future.
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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #576 on: October 10, 2007, 01:08:59 AM »
Judd price tag to scare Tigers
Jake Niall | October 10, 2007

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/judd-price-tag-to-scare-tigers/2007/10/09/1191695909394.html

$2m a year if he goes into the PSD?

Judd is coming out of this looking a "tad" greedy?  And his manager???
Connors is full of it and bluffing. What are Carlton going to pay Judd $2m as well?!  ::)

LOL risking his client a whole year out of footy because no club could do that .... oh wait we're talking about Carlton and their brown paper bags under the desk to cheat the salary cap  :whistle.

This is the same bloke who told West Coast Judd would be an Eagle next year ::).

I agree LT. Judd will look like a mercenary now if this is for real especially to the Eagles. Wasn't it his only reason for leaving the Eagles because he wanted to live in Melbourne close to mummy.
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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #577 on: October 10, 2007, 01:52:24 AM »
Gotta love Google notifications for my time zone.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22560103-21543,00.html

2,18 and 19 offered?  WCE unofficially stating ours is easily the best offer and we are "easier to deal with".  Interesting two and a half days coming up.

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #578 on: October 10, 2007, 02:00:01 AM »
Judd price tag to scare Tigers
Jake Niall | October 10, 2007

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/judd-price-tag-to-scare-tigers/2007/10/09/1191695909394.html

$2m a year if he goes into the PSD?

Judd is coming out of this looking a "tad" greedy?  And his manager???
Connors is full of it and bluffing. What are Carlton going to pay Judd $2m as well?!  ::)

LOL risking his client a whole year out of footy because no club could do that .... oh wait we're talking about Carlton and their brown paper bags under the desk to cheat the salary cap  :whistle.

This is the same bloke who told West Coast Judd would be an Eagle next year ::).

I agree LT. Judd will look like a mercenary now if this is for real especially to the Eagles. Wasn't it his only reason for leaving the Eagles because he wanted to live in Melbourne close to mummy.

Thats the bonus about the PSD Im pretty sure.  If Juddy nominates $2million it must come out of the salary cap.  :rollin

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #579 on: October 10, 2007, 02:06:14 AM »

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Blues' $2m Plan B (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #580 on: October 10, 2007, 02:21:07 AM »
Blues' $2m Plan B
10 October 2007   Herald Sun
Mark Robinson

 CARLTON and Chris Judd have discussed a one-year price tag of up to $2 million if, as a last resort, he is forced into the pre-season draft.

It is believed the contingency plan would be acted upon if West Coast did not deal with Carlton and Judd refused to sign with Richmond, which would mean the pre-season draft was his only avenue.

The Blues hope the unprecedented bounty on Judd's head would blow Richmond out of the equation.

Judd's contract would have to fit into the salary cap and would then be re-worked for seasons two, three, four and five at Carlton.

The Tigers have the No. 1 selection in the pre-season draft and Carlton No. 2.

However, the Blues strongly doubt the "contingency plan" would be needed because West Coast would receive nothing if Judd entered the pre-season draft.

Carlton last night maintained its confidence that superstar Brownlow medallist Judd would be traded, possibly by today.

Asked last night if a deal could be done today, Blues chief executive Greg Swann said: "Yeah, it's a chance."

"It's not far away."

It's believed the Blues and the Eagles have tentatively agreed to swap pick No. 3 and West Australian-born key forward, Josh Kennedy.

The clubs are still in discussion about Carlton's pick No. 20 and a swap for West Coast's pick No. 30.

Last-minute playmaking by the Tigers to secure Judd has not panicked the Blues.

Judd flies to Melbourne today after attending Chris Mainwaring's funeral on Monday.

Judd was advised to cancel a holiday to Queensland this week to be available for a media conference in Melbourne.

The Tigers made a play for Judd by offering West Coast picks No. 2 and No. 18, and possibly another player/pick.

Richmond director of football Greg Miller did not return calls last night.

The Eagles yesterday conceded that Carlton's No. 1 selection in the national draft would be hard to attain.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22560347%255E19742,00.html

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Tigers' Judd ambush (Adelaide Advertiser)
« Reply #581 on: October 10, 2007, 02:41:08 AM »

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22560103-21543,00.html

2,18 and 19 offered?  WCE unofficially stating ours is easily the best offer and we are "easier to deal with".  Interesting two and a half days coming up.

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Tigers' Judd ambush
MICHELANGELO RUCCI, CHIEF FOOTBALL WRITER
October 10, 2007 02:15am

CHRIS Judd's trade to Carlton - the headline act of AFL trade week - has stalled with Richmond becoming West Coast's preferred option.

The Eagles last night declared Richmond's offer of draft picks No. 2, 18 and 19 for the 24-year-old Brownlow Medallist was "superior" to Carlton's bid.

The Blues have offered draft picks No. 3 and 20 and a player, namely Western Australian Josh Kennedy who must agree to the trade.

By comparison, Richmond's deal gives West Coast four top-20 draft picks - Nos. 2, 13, 18 and 19. Carlton's offer leaves the Eagles with three top-20 draft picks - Nos. 3, 13 and 20.

Judd will return to Melbourne today - after being in Perth for West Coast premiership player Chris Mainwaring's funeral - to learn the supposedly simple trade to Carlton is falling apart.

Judd quit the Eagles last month and, after studying four Melbourne-based teams, chose Carlton as his club of choice. Richmond was not put on Judd's wish list which had Carlton, Collingwood, Melbourne and Essendon.

He must approve any trade negotiated by West Coast and other clubs.

But Judd also has to accept Richmond holds critical cards. It either gets Judd with an approved trade with West Coast or is called to the Tigers - with no compensation to the Eagles - as the first pick in December's pre-season draft for uncontracted players.

Judd and the three clubs were silent last night. Carlton did issue a statement saying: "... this is to confirm the confidential discussions are continuing and no further comment will be made at this stage."

A West Coast insider last night said: "Quite simply, Richmond's offer is superior. And they are easier to deal with."

.....article continues
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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #582 on: October 10, 2007, 03:58:27 AM »
The Australian's version.....

Chris Judd could became a Carlton player as early as today. Carlton yesterday made its final offer of picks three and 20 as well as player Josh Kennedy, with West Coast's pick 30 heading back to Carlton.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22559810-5012432,00.html

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #583 on: October 10, 2007, 06:58:37 AM »
if judd puts a 2million price tahgh on his head, the afl should intervene. didnt judd repeatedly say to the world, that he did not leave wce for money!!!!

and 2 million that is f ridiculous.

also, why cant the tigers do the same as what the blues intend and "Judd's contract would have to fit into the salary cap and would then be re-worked for seasons two, three, four and five at Carlton. Richmond! "

i realluy wanna get judd now to pee of all the w@nkers associated with carlscum

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Re: Judd threads [merged]
« Reply #584 on: October 10, 2007, 07:08:35 AM »
It seems like Carlton will be lopping of about $50,000 a player from the top 20 paid players at Carlton. Some will obviously take a bigger haircut than others. Thatll give them an extra $1million in the cap. I reckon we should still try and call there bluff.