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Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« on: February 25, 2008, 03:51:46 AM »
Always wanted to see the stats for the number of 22-27 year olds each side has which is the core of the playing list. Dan26 on BF has put them together.

Your Thoughts?


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2007

* Geelong had the second highest number of 22-27 year olds last year (23), with a combined 1,659 games experienced (4th highest.) Geelong won the flag.

* West Coast had the third highest number of 22-27 year olds last year (21) with a combined 1,883 games experience (highest) and they finished an unlucky 3rd.

* Sydney had nineteen 22-27 year olds with a combined 1,686 games experience (3rd highest) and finished 7th BUT with the second best percentage behind Geelong.

* Richmond had the equal least number of 22-27 year old's (13), which ended up being 12 after Coughlan's injury with a combined 869 games experience (2nd lowest) and they came last.

* Essendon had the equal lowest number of 22-27 year old's (13) with 814 games experience (last) and came 12th. Strong veterans (Hird, Fletcher, Lucas came 1,2,3 in B&F) probably saved Essendon a bit in retrospect last year.

So, there is a definate correlation there with some of those teams.

So what about 2008?

22-27 year old's in 2008 (Age as of 1st July - looks like he excluded rookies)

Fremantle - 23.....(1550 games of experience)
Geelong - 22........(1698 games of experience)
St.Kilda - 21........(1562 games of experience)
Kangaroos - 21.....(1500 games of experience)
West Coast - 19..... (1636 games of experience)
Hawthorn - 19.......(1265 games of experience)
Carlton - 19.........(1419 games of experience)
Brisbane - 18.......(1152 games of experience)
Adelaide - 17....... (921 games of experience)
Essendon - 17...... (1116 games of experience)
Port - 16 ........... (1129 games of experience)
Sydney - 16 ........(1140 games of experience)
Bulldogs - 16 ........(1248 games of experience)
Richmond - 15 .......(942 games of experience)
Collingwood - 12..... (1119 games of experience)

16. Richmond
15 players who are 22-27 (the second least, just ahead of the Pies.) 6 players 28 or older and 13 players 21 or younger with senior experience, which is the 2nd most in the AFL behind Collingwood. They have a reasonable mix actually. The question is simply a matter of quality. The 6 veterans are Tivendale, Simmonds, Bowden, Johnson, N.Brown and Richo. Are the first four going to win them any games? Too young overall and not enough quality.


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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2008, 02:34:41 PM »
And some people wonder why Geelong is daylight ahead of us.
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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 01:19:49 AM »
It's not only that we have so few players in this age bracket, it's the players themselfs.

Only Cogs, Newman, Pettifer, Tuck are player from 23-27 we hae drafted and look like developing into respectable AFL standard footballers.

Hyde, Moore, Schultz types are the reason we finshed last.

Polak, McMahon, King, Silvester, Howat, Cartlege are players the club has needed to take in to fil that void.

10 years of poo drafting/trading/coaching.


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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 08:32:43 AM »
 :rollin :rollin

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 09:16:45 AM »
who cares.

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 09:10:23 PM »
who cares.

Some of us who understand "development" care.

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 09:45:10 PM »
who cares.

Some of us who understand "development" care.

Thats the problem at the RFC , they havent been able to develop players,

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 10:32:26 PM »
who cares.

Some of us who understand "development" care.

Thats the problem at the RFC , they havent been able to develop players,

Again name the lack of development and proof that all other clubs do it better.

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 10:46:22 PM »
who cares.


FACTS

They really do get in the way sometimes dont they  :rollin
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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 10:58:18 PM »
who cares.

Some of us who understand "development" care.

Thats the problem at the RFC , they havent been able to develop players,

Again name the lack of development and proof that all other clubs do it better.

Well lets start,
1/ Richard Tambling. If he doesnt have a good year this year, lets ee what happens.

And lets turn the hands of time back shell we.

Marc Dragicevic ( even before he did his knee)
David Rodan,  couldnt get the best out of David.
Martin McGarth ::)
Jay Schulz( yeah he has really developed hasnt he ::)
Tim Flemming
Alex Gilmour ::)
Tom Roach
Brent hartigan
Dean Limbach
JON ::) ::) ::) ::)
Cleve Hughes( Played 2nds at Coburg last year, now thats development
Casserley ??? I dont know where he is at.
Now where is Danny Meyer, anyone seen him ::)

If you want , i will go through every clubs young players, I will start with Hawthorn if you want, as they as so far advanced than us its a joke

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 11:03:45 PM »
Why don't you start with Essendon?
You know, those fantasticly developed youngsters who our no good developed youngsters kicked the @rses of in round 21 last year in a game that meant so much to their club.
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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 11:09:56 PM »
Why don't you start with Essendon?
You know, those fantasticly developed youngsters who our no good developed youngsters kicked the @rses of in round 21 last year in a game that meant so much to their club.

By memory, it was Lloyd and Hird who let the bombers down after half time.
And it was Richmond run and carry out of defence that won the game, Bowden and Raines by memory.
If you want, i will go and grab the tape an have a look
Which of our developed youngsters do you want me to look for.??
JON ? Hughes ?   I will have to find a coburg tape then

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 11:14:30 PM »
Martin McGarth ::)

You are being funny again  :rollin :rollin

Are you seriously saying it is the RFC fault that Marty McGarth is no longer playing AFL footy ??? Marty doesn't need to take some responsibility for his lack of comittment and and professionalism

In the immortal words of JP McEnroe - YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 11:23:14 PM »
Martin McGarth ::)

You are being funny again  :rollin :rollin

Are you seriously saying it is the RFC fault that Marty McGarth is no longer playing AFL footy ??? Marty doesn't need to take some responsibility for his lack of comittment and and professionalism

In the immortal words of JP McEnroe - YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS

 ;D

On a serious note, yes.
The club knows what can happen taking players from other states and putting them in a different world. And I am aware of the full story in this case, as well as Alex Gilmour and others.
Żes, the club is too balme. They are only kids earning a huge salary

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Re: Richmond has the 2nd fewest 22-27 year olds
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 11:26:53 PM »
On a serious note, yes.
The club knows what can happen taking players from other states and putting them in a different world. And I am aware of the full story in this case, as well as Alex Gilmour and others.
Żes, the club is too balme. They are only kids earning a huge salary

The Club is solely to blame ?  ??? Give me a break.

So how do you explain the others who are on huge salaries not going down the Marty McGarth path?

Let me guess - that's got nothing to do with the Club. That's got everything to do with the with the kids themselves.

Can't have it both ways
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