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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #120 on: March 24, 2008, 09:36:50 PM »
I'm more concerned about him getting blind during the season than him urinating in public. So what if it his birthday. Players these days are supposed to be professional and they are compensated accordingly. The club captain of all people should be beyond reproach. I don't like the standard he is setting for our younger players by getting drunk during the season proper. Once he retires he can do whatever he likes but until then he should at all times appreciate the honoured position he has in our club and show some restraint when it comes to the consumption of alcohol. Save it for the end of season trip which if he keeps up this crap it will be sooner rather than later.!!!  :banghead :help

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #121 on: March 24, 2008, 09:46:48 PM »
I'm more concerned about him getting blind during the season than him urinating in public. So what if it his birthday. Players these days are supposed to be professional and they are compensated accordingly. The club captain of all people should be beyond reproach. I don't like the standard he is setting for our younger players by getting drunk during the season proper. Once he retires he can do whatever he likes but until then he should at all times appreciate the honoured position he has in our club and show some restraint when it comes to the consumption of alcohol. Save it for the end of season trip which if he keeps up this crap it will be sooner rather than later.!!!  :banghead :help

Thank you,  :thumbsup

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #122 on: March 24, 2008, 10:32:02 PM »
This has nothing to do with drunks or gardeners peeing on a freeway on a friday or sat night
This is about a supposedly club leader of an elite sporting club staying out late, being so drunk they locked him up for 4 hours after he peeed on a the wall of a police station :banghead
This is why we are the laughing stock of the AFL.
Club had the perfect opportunity to lift the standards and to make an example but they ACCEPT the penalty that he had placed on him self.
The club didnt make the decision of the penalty, KANE JOHNSON did.the club just agreed.
The club havent handled it well at all leaving it to the player to impose his own penalty, what a circus at punt road really.  $5,000 fine out of a $350,000 contract, big deal,  Hopefully the magistate will throw the book at him

The magistrate throw the book - not likely  ::) more likely the charge will be thrown out or no conviction recorded

Yeah - Johnson made the penalty decision - good on him. Faced the media today, rather than sneaking in the via the pool - kudos for that too. He stuffed up - we all know it, he knows it but struth you'd think he'd caused mass anarchy in the St Kilda road.

As for being a laughing stock - yeah at times we are and at times it's no great surprise when you listen to some of the tripe on talkback this arvo  :banghead

If it is such a circus that you seem these days to clearly despise then don't be part of it. Pretty simple I would have thought ::)

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #123 on: March 24, 2008, 10:48:02 PM »
If it was Bucks who had done it in Licuria's time then he'd be the type of person to hand over the captaincy to Clement.

Yeah, just like he handed it over after smearing blood on Ling.
Get off the grass, Paul.
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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #124 on: March 24, 2008, 10:55:30 PM »
I'm more concerned about him getting blind during the season than him urinating in public. So what if it his birthday. Players these days are supposed to be professional and they are compensated accordingly. The club captain of all people should be beyond reproach. I don't like the standard he is setting for our younger players by getting drunk during the season proper. Once he retires he can do whatever he likes but until then he should at all times appreciate the honoured position he has in our club and show some restraint when it comes to the consumption of alcohol. Save it for the end of season trip which if he keeps up this crap it will be sooner rather than later.!!!  :banghead :help
Agree tiga.

Caro said on FC Sugar getting so smashed in the first place was what actually disappointed the club. She also said she would keep him as captain as there's no one else worthy to be captain.
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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #125 on: March 24, 2008, 11:55:04 PM »

All said it's not a capital offence. There's bigger issues in footy. So let's get on with it. Everyone has done it down an alley way.

Forget about alley ways - drive along the West Gate freeway on a Friday or Saturday night and check out the gardeners watering the trees ::)

No great surprise to me he wasn't stripped of the Captainancy - the club needs to be seen making the decisions not reacting to the supporters or the media.

Seriously we have handled it a helluva lot better than the Blues did

Time to move on ;D



 :thumbsup, the whole take the captaincy off him is WOTP, i think some are blinded for their dislike in him been the captain, as i posted earlier some need get out their ivory towers.

totally agree WP at least he wasnt shuffled through the back door, and again there is some mis information about Kane delivering his own sentence. :cheers...oops better go the kettle is boiling. :lol

 

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #126 on: March 25, 2008, 01:59:33 AM »

What is it about the club that makes Johnson a protected species?

His use by date as a player was 2 years ago
He never gets dropped
They hand him a BF he never deserved
He should not have retained the captaincy this year

We havent got great headlines like we did this week for 12 years, and he wrecks it. The media is talking about him instead of how we're going to beat North.

Enough with this nob

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Remorseful Johnson backed to remain captain (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #127 on: March 25, 2008, 03:42:10 AM »
Remorseful Johnson backed to remain captain
Sam Edmund
March 25, 2008

RICHMOND has backed skipper Kane Johnson to retain the respect of his teammates despite being arrested for urinating in public.

The Tigers said yesterday that stripping Johnson of the captaincy was never discussed.

Johnson was caught by police urinating on the wall of the St Kilda Rd police complex about 2am on Sunday after celebrating his 30th birthday.

He yesterday apologised to teammates after being charged with being drunk in a public place.

The club's leadership group is today expected to ratify a $5000 fine and Johnson's self-proposed one-match ban.

Johnson has also volunteered to become an anti-binge drinking ambassador.

Asked if the Tigers considered taking the captaincy off Johnson, Richmond director of football Greg Miller said: "Absolutely not. It wasn't discussed and we didn't come close at all."

Miller said Johnson was full of remorse after long preaching the importance of off-field behaviour.

"You understand Kane has strong values and he felt that he let the whole group down," Miller said.

"He sold those values to the whole team, we have trademarks and values that we live by and Kane's driven those through the whole club.

"For him to make the mistake that he did, of course he felt that (a suspension) was the appropriate action.

"For him to make that mistake, he'll forever regret it."

Vice-captain Joel Bowden said Johnson's run-in with the law was a "blip on the radar".

"He's set up a strong foundation for the club and he's work has been exemplary," he said.

But former Richmond player and coach Tony Jewell said it was inevitable Johnson's teammates would now look at him differently.

"Certainly he would have lost some sort of respect, I have no doubt of that," Jewell said.

"But he is held in pretty high regard. It's totally out of character to be quite honest."

John Northey, who coached the Tigers from 1993-1995, said Johnson's good off-field record would ensure he could still command the respect of the playing group.

"He should miss a game and show the group he stands by all the disciplines of the club," Northey said.

Johnson will now have to wait until the Round 3 game against Collingwood to play his 100th game for the Tigers.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23426573-11088,00.html

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Richmond's Kane Johnson takes pledge (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #128 on: March 25, 2008, 03:43:55 AM »
Richmond's Kane Johnson takes pledge
Grant McArthur
March 25, 2008

RICHMOND skipper Kane Johnson wants to campaign against problem drinking after his public shaming on the weekend.

Johnson, who was arrested for urinating on the St Kilda Rd Police complex at 2am on Sunday, wants to help stamp out binge drinking.

Richmond football director Greg Miller said Johnson wanted to warn the community about the problem and the club would take a stance through its captain.

"Kane is not a regular drinker, it was a one-off, and he certainly hasn't been drinking since Christmas," he said.

"It was his birthday, he celebrated and he went too far.

"I guess that is a topical subject at the moment and he understands that, and if he can help deliver that right message he will.

"Already the Prime Minister has met Andrew Demetriou and sought the AFL's assistance (to stamp out problem drinking), so I think we are going to become proactive."

Johnson suspended himself for one match and was fined $5000 by Richmond.

Johnson, who lives next door to the police complex, had been celebrating his 30th birthday with family and friends.

He apologised again before meeting the club's leadership group at Punt Road Oval yesterday.

"I've let a lot of people down at the footy club and also fans around Australia and I just want to hopefully move on very quickly," he said.

VicHealth chief executive officer Todd Harper welcomed any effort by Johnson to speak out against problem drinking.

"I give credit to Kane Johnson for being prepared to make the best out of a bad situation.

"I think a lot of people have been in that situation -- the difference is being prepared to take responsibility for your actions and then do something to turn it around.

"Kane Johnson is not the first person to have found himself in that situation, and he probably won't be the last, so I think to send a message that he has learnt something from it would be a positive."

Mr Miller said Johnson's teammates accepted his apology. "They know it was a complete aberration and not something that you would expect Kane to be involved with -- he's the last person you'd expect at our football club.

"Kane has strong values and he felt he let the whole club down. He sold those values to the whole team. We have trademarks and values, and Kane has driven those.

"He sets such high standards, so for him to make that mistake he'll forever regret it. His family were with him.

"He was outside his own house, which just happened to be next door (to a police station), and unfortunately he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and made a bad mistake."

Johnson was charged with being drunk in a public place and is due to face court on April 22.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23426207-661,00.html

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Spud backs Johnson outcome (The Age)
« Reply #129 on: March 25, 2008, 03:45:56 AM »
Johnson's first Tiger coach backs outcome
Samantha Lane | March 25, 2008

DANNY Frawley, the man who helped recruit Kane Johnson to Richmond, yesterday backed his old club's handling of the Tiger captain's weekend arrest.

Frawley, who oversaw Johnson's move from Adelaide to Punt Road at the end of 2002, said the latest case of a footballer urinating in an inappropriate place was different to the one that featured Carlton's Brendan Fevola on the eve of round one.

"(Johnson) is coming from a clean slate," Frawley said. "It's not the boy who cried wolf. It's a guy who's captain of a club and been terrific since he's been at Richmond and that's why it's completely different. It's out of character.

"It's not ideal, and it's really disappointing, and he'd be the first to admit that … he wouldn't have been ducking for cover on this one. He would have got on the front foot and said, 'This is the issue, I'm in strife and this is the way I'd like to be dealt with. What's your opinion?'

"I think Kane should be commended on the way he's acted pretty swiftly on it. There was a lot of procrastination with the Carlton scenario."

Johnson said yesterday that he was "deeply sorry" for his misdemeanour.

He was arrested and charged for being drunk in a public place early on Sunday morning and was caught urinating outside the St Kilda Road police complex, which is near his home.

He has imposed a one-match suspension on himself, as well as a $5000 fine, and offered to do voluntary community work.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/frawley-backs-johnson-outcome/2008/03/24/1206207012287.html

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Fuss about Fev and Johnson should be flushed away (The Age)
« Reply #130 on: March 25, 2008, 03:48:46 AM »
Fuss about Fev and Johnson should be flushed away
Greg Baum | March 25, 2008

ON THE scale of atrocities committed by sportsmen — ranging from drunkenness and drink-driving to drug-taking, sexual harassment and assault — urinating in public would shock only if it was against an electric fence.

It makes Brendan Fevola and Kane Johnson no worse, but no better, than the inebriated man who relieved himself in a photo booth outside Flinders Street Station on Saturday night, just before a group of young women arrived, and somewhat dampened their enthusiasm for a snapshot.

Arguably, he was smarter either than Fevola, who peeed on the window of a nightclub, or Johnson, who peeed on the wall of a police station. Unlike Fevola, he knew where the camera was. Unlike Johnson, he knew where he was.

Footballers are young men like any other young men, with charms, failings and bladders. They are set apart only by their athletic talent. At a certain level, that gains them greater privileges than the next man, which in turn imposes greater obligations, a truth most accept. But the rest of the footballer-as-superman syndrome is a social construct. Sometimes, it becomes a joke on society.

Fevola's incontinence was three days' worth of headlines. Johnson's wee misjudgement attracted a throng of media to Punt Road and was the catalyst for several talkback segments. One dwelled on listeners' tales of like excesses, which was instructive; no one is asked ever to ring in with their favourite rape stories. Yet in each instance, the club went into war cabinet, the leadership group hunkered down, the media department put out dispatches and more mea culpas were heard even than on Good Friday.

Fevola escaped suspension on the grounds that he does this all the time. Johnson suspended himself. It helps to explain why one is — properly — still captain of his club and the other is — mystifyingly — on an endlessly renewable last chance. History and demeanour suggest that Johnson, at least, will not be caught again with his pants down.

Duly, the question became: what to do about these ever-erring footballers and their irritable urinary tracts? The mind boggles. Ban alcohol? Ban all diuretics? Supply bags or bottles? Sensors? Chemical inhibitants? A chaperone? Monitor? Write into the standard player contract specifications about when and where? Have them write on their arms a reminder to go (and to wash their hands afterwards)?

Toilet training?

Really, this all too trivial. Each club can and will choose its own course. Some will impose curfews. Some will implement alcohol bans, some limits. Some will tighten them as finals approach. Some allow drinking only on the night after a game. Collingwood once allowed drinking only with meals.

But limits exist already: laws concerning public drunkenness and indecency, norms, dignity, common sense. Fevola might argue that his modest display last Thursday had nothing to do with his binge five days previously, but people will draw their own conclusions. As noted, footballers are supermen only up to a point, and it is not .05.

Truthfully, neither Carlton nor Richmond should do anything more. They are football clubs, not nannies. Sooner or later, they must stop holding their charges' hands every waking minute; apart from anything else, they will end up getting splashed.

Fevola is 27, Johnson 30. Sooner or later, a man has to stand on his own two feet, and zip up his own fly. What they did was uncouth, but to judge from the city footpaths on a Sunday morning, hardly uncommon. It leaves, as always, a bad smell.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/fuss-about-fev-and-johnson-should-be-flushed-away/2008/03/24/1206207007774.html

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Game over
Herald-Sun Editorial
March 25, 2008

Footballers are highly paid in a game watched by tens of thousands of people each week, but players appear reluctant to accept their responsibility as role models.

Last week, there was the appalling behaviour of Carlton full-forward Brendan Fevola in urinating on a bar window in Prahran.

On the weekend, Richmond captain Kane Johnson was arrested and locked up after urinating on the wall of the St Kilda Rd police complex.

Fevola was fined $10,000 and escaped suspension while Johnson, as captain, suspended himself for one match and was fined $5000.

It is bad enough that a player urinated in public, but for the captain of a club to do so is unforgivable.

The AFL needs to remind all players of their responsibilities, starting with Johnson, a 30-year-old man who should know better.

While his club is unlikely to seek their captain's resignation, Johnson should consider offering it.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23425003-24218,00.html

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Re: Spud backs Johnson outcome (The Age)
« Reply #132 on: March 25, 2008, 05:48:33 AM »
Johnson's first Tiger coach backs outcome
Samantha Lane | March 25, 2008

DANNY Frawley, the man who helped recruit Kane Johnson to Richmond, yesterday backed his old club's handling of the Tiger captain's weekend arrest.

Frawley, who oversaw Johnson's move from Adelaide to Punt Road at the end of 2002, said the latest case of a footballer urinating in an inappropriate place was different to the one that featured Carlton's Brendan Fevola on the eve of round one.

"(Johnson) is coming from a clean slate," Frawley said. "It's not the boy who cried wolf. It's a guy who's captain of a club and been terrific since he's been at Richmond and that's why it's completely different. It's out of character.

"It's not ideal, and it's really disappointing, and he'd be the first to admit that … he wouldn't have been ducking for cover on this one. He would have got on the front foot and said, 'This is the issue, I'm in strife and this is the way I'd like to be dealt with. What's your opinion?'

"I think Kane should be commended on the way he's acted pretty swiftly on it. There was a lot of procrastination with the Carlton scenario."

Johnson said yesterday that he was "deeply sorry" for his misdemeanour.

He was arrested and charged for being drunk in a public place early on Sunday morning and was caught urinating outside the St Kilda Road police complex, which is near his home.

He has imposed a one-match suspension on himself, as well as a $5000 fine, and offered to do voluntary community work.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/frawley-backs-johnson-outcome/2008/03/24/1206207012287.html

Geez he's a stuff kwit.

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Re: Sugar out of North game plus a $5,000 fine
« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2008, 08:03:20 AM »
ideal opportunity to strip him of his captainancy.
Captains lead by example.
Club should make an example of him and therfore ingrain a hard culture at the club, but no, it wont happen.
Fine him a few dollars and they will say we are all moving forward.
Any joy from last thursdays win has quickly been taken away >:(

you must be happy now jack

I know you were dissapointed on thursday night, but things are looking up for you again eh?

You miserable miserable sod
You are D/Head.
This is why the club is going no where ! People like you Blaisee who support this rubbish

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Re: Sugar in strife doing a Fev
« Reply #134 on: March 25, 2008, 08:05:38 AM »

What is it about the club that makes Johnson a protected species?

His use by date as a player was 2 years ago
He never gets dropped
They hand him a BF he never deserved
He should not have retained the captaincy this year

We havent got great headlines like we did this week for 12 years, and he wrecks it. The media is talking about him instead of how we're going to beat North.

Enough with this nob

Correct!