Sugar in strife doing a Fev / Out of North game plus $5,000 fine

[Little Jackie]

This has nothing to do with drunks or gardeners peeing on a freeway on a friday or sat night
This is about a supposedly club leader of an elite sporting club staying out late, being so drunk they locked him up for 4 hours after he peeed on a the wall of a police station
This is why we are the laughing stock of the AFL.
Club had the perfect opportunity to lift the standards and to make an example but they ACCEPT the penalty that he had placed on him self.
The club didnt make the decision of the penalty, KANE JOHNSON did.the club just agreed.
The club havent handled it well at all leaving it to the player to impose his own penalty, what a circus at punt road really.  $5,000 fine out of a $350,000 contract, big deal,  Hopefully the magistate will throw the book at him

The magistrate throw the book - not likely  more likely the charge will be thrown out or no conviction recorded

Yeah - Johnson made the penalty decision - good on him. Faced the media today, rather than sneaking in the via the pool - kudos for that too. He stuffed up - we all know it, he knows it but struth you'd think he'd caused mass anarchy in the St Kilda road.

As for being a laughing stock - yeah at times we are and at times it's no great surprise when you listen to some of the tripe on talkback this arvo 

If it is such a circus that you seem these days to clearly despise then don't be part of it. Pretty simple I would have thought

If he didnt face the media it would have been more of a disagrace, he is the captain of the club
It will be a disgrace if the charge gets thrown out because he is a footballer, please. 
What he did is the most stupid thing I have heard of in a long time. Think about it!
Whats he doing out drunk anyway??

[blaisee]

ideal opportunity to strip him of his captainancy.
Captains lead by example.
Club should make an example of him and therfore ingrain a hard culture at the club, but no, it wont happen.
Fine him a few dollars and they will say we are all moving forward.
Any joy from last thursdays win has quickly been taken away

you must be happy now jack

I know you were dissapointed on thursday night, but things are looking up for you again eh?

You miserable miserable sod

You are D/Head.
This is why the club is going no where ! People like you Blaisee who support this rubbish

thankfully jack, snipers like yourself have been removed from the club. You are so bitter and twisted that you cant even enjoy a win, you must of hated the fact that we pumped the blues, johno's indiscretion is no big deal, anyone that thinks otherwise just has an agenda. You have proven this time and time again jack. I feel sorry for you.

So your advise to me is to be more like you, and just snipe at the club at any opportunity and blow any negative out of proportion, no thanks. I am too busy thinking about the postives.

Will Thursfield
Jake King
Tambling
Jackson
Shultz

They have all taken huge steps over the pre-season, who gives a flog if someone had a slash in a lane way next door to their house, grow up.

[Little Jackie]

ideal opportunity to strip him of his captainancy.
Captains lead by example.
Club should make an example of him and therfore ingrain a hard culture at the club, but no, it wont happen.
Fine him a few dollars and they will say we are all moving forward.
Any joy from last thursdays win has quickly been taken away

you must be happy now jack

I know you were dissapointed on thursday night, but things are looking up for you again eh?

You miserable miserable sod

You are D/Head.
This is why the club is going no where ! People like you Blaisee who support this rubbish

thankfully jack, snipers like yourself have been removed from the club. You are so bitter and twisted that you cant even enjoy a win, you must of hated the fact that we pumped the blues, johno's indiscretion is no big deal, anyone that thinks otherwise just has an agenda. You have proven this time and time again jack. I feel sorry for you.

So your advise to me is to be more like you, and just snipe at the club at any opportunity and blow any negative out of proportion, no thanks. I am too busy thinking about the postives.

Will Thursfield
Jake King
Tambling
Jackson
Shultz

They have all taken huge steps over the pre-season, who gives a flog if someone had a slash in a lane way next door to their house, grow up.

Schultz 

Its just goes to show what a circus it is down there. The captain giving his own penalty, please
Garry Lyons article in the paper today says it all.
Interesting also that KB says that he shouldnt be captain anymore.
It has more to do than "' having a slash "" or dont you realise that

[blaisee]

ideal opportunity to strip him of his captainancy.
Captains lead by example.
Club should make an example of him and therfore ingrain a hard culture at the club, but no, it wont happen.
Fine him a few dollars and they will say we are all moving forward.
Any joy from last thursdays win has quickly been taken away

you must be happy now jack

I know you were dissapointed on thursday night, but things are looking up for you again eh?

You miserable miserable sod

You are D/Head.
This is why the club is going no where ! People like you Blaisee who support this rubbish

thankfully jack, snipers like yourself have been removed from the club. You are so bitter and twisted that you cant even enjoy a win, you must of hated the fact that we pumped the blues, johno's indiscretion is no big deal, anyone that thinks otherwise just has an agenda. You have proven this time and time again jack. I feel sorry for you.

So your advise to me is to be more like you, and just snipe at the club at any opportunity and blow any negative out of proportion, no thanks. I am too busy thinking about the postives.

Will Thursfield
Jake King
Tambling
Jackson
Shultz

They have all taken huge steps over the pre-season, who gives a flog if someone had a slash in a lane way next door to their house, grow up.

Schultz 

Its just goes to show what a circus it is down there. The captain giving his own penalty, please
Garry Lyons article in the paper today says it all.
Interesting also that KB says that he shouldnt be captain anymore.
It has more to do than "' having a slash "" or dont you realise that

you would know all about a circus jack, you are a clown

[rogerd3]

ideal opportunity to strip him of his captainancy.
Captains lead by example.
Club should make an example of him and therfore ingrain a hard culture at the club, but no, it wont happen.
Fine him a few dollars and they will say we are all moving forward.
Any joy from last thursdays win has quickly been taken away

you must be happy now jack

I know you were dissapointed on thursday night, but things are looking up for you again eh?

You miserable miserable sod

You are D/Head.
This is why the club is going no where ! People like you Blaisee who support this rubbish

thankfully jack, snipers like yourself have been removed from the club. You are so bitter and twisted that you cant even enjoy a win, you must of hated the fact that we pumped the blues, johno's indiscretion is no big deal, anyone that thinks otherwise just has an agenda. You have proven this time and time again jack. I feel sorry for you.

So your advise to me is to be more like you, and just snipe at the club at any opportunity and blow any negative out of proportion, no thanks. I am too busy thinking about the postives.

Will Thursfield
Jake King
Tambling
Jackson
Shultz

They have all taken huge steps over the pre-season, who gives a flog if someone had a slash in a lane way next door to their house, grow up.

Schultz 

Its just goes to show what a circus it is down there. The captain giving his own penalty, please
Garry Lyons article in the paper today says it all.
Interesting also that KB says that he shouldnt be captain anymore.
It has more to do than "' having a slash "" or dont you realise that

I wouldnt say the Mr Gaddy Lyon is the epitomie of good behaviour, he has more than a couple of skeletons in his closet. ..
everyone has an opinion on this incident and fair enough its just unfortunate some have an axe to grind because of their dislike of him as our capain, well a certain few anyway.
do you think that cousins wasnt the actual captain of WC after his indescretions, Judd was only captain to the outside world, to give that perception.


let it go Jackstar your only enhancing your bitter reputation.



 

[Little Jackie]

you just dont get it do you
Everyone has there opinion, I have mine.
You just dont realise the damage that has been done here inregards to trust etc.
Terry will be spewing, interesting that 3AW played a recording of Terry yesterday about an interview he did two weeks ago about trust and drinking issues at the club and what he had implemented.
Obviously Kane wasnt listening
And have a read of Gary Lyon article if you already havent

[rogerd3]

This has nothing to do with drunks or gardeners peeing on a freeway on a friday or sat night
This is about a supposedly club leader of an elite sporting club staying out late, being so drunk they locked him up for 4 hours after he peeed on a the wall of a police station
This is why we are the laughing stock of the AFL.
Club had the perfect opportunity to lift the standards and to make an example but they ACCEPT the penalty that he had placed on him self.
The club didnt make the decision of the penalty, KANE JOHNSON did.the club just agreed.
The club havent handled it well at all leaving it to the player to impose his own penalty, what a circus at punt road really.  $5,000 fine out of a $350,000 contract, big deal,  Hopefully the magistate will throw the book at him

The magistrate throw the book - not likely  more likely the charge will be thrown out or no conviction recorded

Yeah - Johnson made the penalty decision - good on him. Faced the media today, rather than sneaking in the via the pool - kudos for that too. He stuffed up - we all know it, he knows it but struth you'd think he'd caused mass anarchy in the St Kilda road.

As for being a laughing stock - yeah at times we are and at times it's no great surprise when you listen to some of the tripe on talkback this arvo 

If it is such a circus that you seem these days to clearly despise then don't be part of it. Pretty simple I would have thought

If he didnt face the media it would have been more of a disagrace, he is the captain of the club
It will be a disgrace if the charge gets thrown out because he is a footballer, please. 
What he did is the most stupid thing I have heard of in a long time. Think about it!
Whats he doing out drunk anyway??

the most stupid thing i would have thought was Didak getting into cars with hitmen, or perhaps a player screwing his vice captains wife...for godsake get a grip he took a slash whilst peeed, the most stupid part it was next door to the Stkilda police complex.
some on here seem to have lead an exemplary life with no infractions which i find hard to believe.

pfft some need to chill out, you would have thought he committed mass murder.

[Little Jackie]

I think you are missing the point abit.
The fact that he was drunk and had to be locked up for 4 hours is a huge problem in a team enviroment

[rogerd3]

you just dont get it do you
Everyone has there opinion, I have mine.
You just dont realise the damage that has been done here inregards to trust etc.
Terry will be spewing, interesting that 3AW played a recording of Terry yesterday about an interview he did two weeks ago about trust and drinking issues at the club and what he had implemented.
Obviously Kane wasnt listening
And have a read of Gary Lyon article if you already havent

We have heard you opinion on most things about the RFC but unfortunately for someone who supposedly supports the RFC they are not very flattering, but its something we expect more often than not.

read the Gaddy Lyon article and yes he has some fair points in there thats what he is employed to do...does he know or you for that matter what transpired yesterday @Punt Rd, as i posted earlier Gaddy Lyon isnt the epitomie of good behavior over his time at the Demons.

[WilliamPowell]

It will be a disgrace if the charge gets thrown out because he is a footballer, please. 

Wont have anything to do with him being a footballer if it gets thrown out or no conviction recorded

It is just a very common thing in these sort of cases.

Seriously, first offence etc....

[Ox]

If I may.

I agree with Jak that it is as weak as pixs on the clubs behalf for
1-allowing him to penalise himself.
2-Condoning his being out with family and drunk as being ok (Miler)

Reality is,this is no example for the number one leader to set,
ESPECIALLY when his performances over the years have been nothing short of comical.

The Tiger community is divided on the matter.
Those who approve of the final outcome as acceptable(more likely trying to avoid media scrutiny
and the others,who think he has screwed up big time.
Wether this is because of somewhat,personal agenda due to what has been perceived
as johnson falling far,far short of the level expected of him,is not important.

What is important in the discussion is the fact there are fractions of
the supporter base who are unhappy.

Does this happen at other clubs to the degree it is happening here and now?
Answer is NO.
Reason is other captains fill the position as characterised.
If they can't they are unceremoniously fired,not given a 3rd year.

IDGAF If legaly it is his first offence or the fact it is a common break of the law.
What peees me off is he is an uninspirational,unimaginative,colorless leader who
has majorly done stuff all and thinks it's okay to be out on the pixs.

You guys are seriously overlooking the gest of the matter at hand.

He's a wanker.

Screw u suga,the sooner u stuff off the better.
*spits like a wog - tttuuuueeeyyyy*

[one-eyed]

SEN said earlier today Kane was seen with Richo in the White Room around 11.30pm Saturday night. Richo was fine but Sugar was 'under the weather'.

[one-eyed]

Is Kane still able?
By Garry Lyon
Former Melbourne star
March 25, 2008

IT WILL be very hard for Kane Johnson to continue to captain the Richmond Football Club.

Not totally unworkable, but very difficult. And I'm looking at that, not through the eyes of the club, the sponsors, the fans or the media, but through the eyes of Johnson himself.

The role of captain is to lead his players. It is an honour that carries with it responsibilities and expectations, and by extension, extra scrutiny. It is not a role suited to every player, nor is it always for the best player in any team.

The captaincy is given to the best leader and to do the role effectively you need to be satisfied, in your own mind, that you are worthy of the position.

The toughest times I encountered as captain were through periods of injury or poor form. If you were performing poorly, or not at all, it was very difficult to demand of the players the standards that were required.

If your team was struggling and you weren't contributing, the natural inclination was to retreat into yourself. To do otherwise was to feel like a fraud.

It conjured images of "do as I say, not what I do", which is counter to what all strong leaders subscribe to.

And that is what Johnson would be wrestling with at the moment. At least with poor form or injury, you could continue to do everything in your power to turn it around.

That is the message you hopefully send to your players as you work your backside off in a game or work to do everything in your power to get an injury right to enable you to do what is expected at the weekend.

I admire Johnson's approach to football and, anecdotally, I believe the players have great respect for him.

But how much does this incident compromise that respect and how compromised will Johnson feel when he has to stand up in front of his group, look his players in the eye and say, "Follow me".

Only Johnson can answer that. The fact he has no history of trouble with the Tigers works in his favour.

The players may rally and back him, but it will require great trust from all involved. That is one thing that he needs to win back in a hurry.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23427395-23211,00.html

[one-eyed]

Richmond captain Kane Johnson says sorry to police
Karen Collier and Grant McArthur
March 25, 2008 11:35am

TIGER captain Kane Johnson has delivered a letter of apology to police chief Christine Nixon expressing regret for urinating on the wall of a police complex.

The remorseful Richmond skipper's hand-delivered note stressed he did not set out to offend the force when he was arrested outside the St Kilda Rd complex early on Sunday.

And he has offered to work with Victoria Police to make amends.

Johnson delivered the letter to the Victoria Police Centre reception in Flinders St yesterday afternoon.

Ms Nixon, who opened the personal apology this morning, declined to release the letter publicly.

But a spokeswoman confirmed the gesture and said the Chief Commissioner was impressed.

"He apologised and wanted to emphasise his actions at the weekend were in no way meant to cause offence and that he hadn't deliberately selected the complex to disrespect police," spokeswoman Nicole McKechnie said.

"He offered to do anything to assist in the future with Victoria Police to make amends."

Johnson, who was arrested for urinating on the St Kilda Rd Police complex at 2am on Sunday, yesterday pledged to help stamp out binge drinking.

Richmond football director Greg Miller said Johnson wanted to warn the community about the problem and the club would take a stance through its captain.

"Kane is not a regular drinker, it was a one-off, and he certainly hasn't been drinking since Christmas," he said.

"It was his birthday, he celebrated and he went too far.

"I guess that is a topical subject at the moment and he understands that, and if he can help deliver that right message he will.

"Already the Prime Minister has met Andrew Demetriou and sought the AFL's assistance (to stamp out problem drinking), so I think we are going to become proactive."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23428263-2862,00.html

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not saying what sugar did was ok, cos it was disgusting and dogs behaviour, but wuld a cop that is a tiger supporter have arrested him if he CAUGHT  sugar in the act........i doubt it