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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #135 on: August 30, 2008, 07:53:51 PM »
Pretty simple for me why we shouldn't chase Kerr:

He's in contract, so the price will be high and it will mean losing our first two draft picks. Combined with the upcoming introduction of new teams and the impact that will have on our ability to draft quality youngsters in coming years, there would be a very high risk that we could end up with a big gap in our list where we lack quality youth over a 3 or 4 year period.

We've seen it before at this club and the impact it has, in particular how long it takes to right the balance of the list. Just far too much risk to introduce after we've done a lot of hard work to correct the mistakes of the past. The player in question is an injury and personality risk. I just can't see it being worth it.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #136 on: August 30, 2008, 08:57:09 PM »
well thats disappointing
i was hoping it was because we realised early picks were more important than going the short term fix
seems its only because there is another club more stupid than us
Not stupid for a club like StKilda, they have a mature enough group that could really give the flag a shot, adding Kerr & Cousins to the side would make them instantly more threatening.
They're going to finish in 4th spot if the Dogs beat the Crows and Saints beat the bombers, that's when you top up, not when you're 9th and not played finals in 7 years.
Perhaps , though the saints have been topping up since 2004 and it hasn't gotten them far..Not sure cousins and kerr will have them challenging for a flag looking at their list..

Most of the time going for youth is the best way to improve and keep a list strong , even if you are the reigning premiers..




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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #137 on: August 30, 2008, 09:39:19 PM »
They're going to finish in 4th spot if the Dogs beat the Crows and Saints beat the bombers, that's when you top up, not when you're 9th and not played finals in 7 years.

Exactly .. TW trying to put pressure on the club and paint CC into a corner by declaring an interest in trading reeks of self survival for a juicy new contract if the Tigers make the finals in 09 with Kerr in the side.

For once, Richmond as a club must continue on a true re-building path and not stop halfway.  If Geelong are the recruiting model it has taken them 8 years and a couple of lucky Father / Sons (G. Ablett & Scarlett) to get them where they are.

I'd hate to see RFC end-up like that rabble from Moorabin still at a grunge party when techno has taken over in the house.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #138 on: August 30, 2008, 10:17:05 PM »

Exactly .. TW trying to put pressure on the club and paint CC into a corner by declaring an interest in trading reeks of self survival for a juicy new contract if the Tigers make the finals in 09 with Kerr in the side.

Not even close IMHO. Kerr would make 2 parts of 5 eights of fa difference to us in the long term and I don't think our club has any intention whatsoever of chasing him, any more than we did Judd last year. There's much more going on behind the scenes and we are being vocal to keep other other sides on edge, and help ensure whoever gets Kerr pays top dollar with no added advantage.  He doesn't fit in at all with our much publicized drive toward youth and culture change.  Just can't see it for so many reasons.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #139 on: August 30, 2008, 10:35:24 PM »
They're going to finish in 4th spot if the Dogs beat the Crows and Saints beat the bombers, that's when you top up, not when you're 9th and not played finals in 7 years.

Exactly .. TW trying to put pressure on the club and paint CC into a corner by declaring an interest in trading reeks of self survival for a juicy new contract if the Tigers make the finals in 09 with Kerr in the side.

For once, Richmond as a club must continue on a true re-building path and not stop halfway.  If Geelong are the recruiting model it has taken them 8 years and a couple of lucky Father / Sons (G. Ablett & Scarlett) to get them where they are.

I'd hate to see RFC end-up like that rabble from Moorabin still at a grunge party when techno has taken over in the house.

I agree in some part for what you are saying i really do.

But why the eff did we recruit Mcmahon then? he will NOT be part of a premeirship winning team.

you go on about saving our draft picks then you forget last year we gave up pick 18 for a player playing reserves. I didn't hear anyone complaining then. You cant pick and choose when to save and hold draft picks. This was a wrong choice and we look stupid because of it

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #140 on: August 30, 2008, 10:48:48 PM »

Exactly .. TW trying to put pressure on the club and paint CC into a corner by declaring an interest in trading reeks of self survival for a juicy new contract if the Tigers make the finals in 09 with Kerr in the side.

Not even close IMHO. Kerr would make 2 parts of 5 eights of fa difference to us in the long term and I don't think our club has any intention whatsoever of chasing him, any more than we did Judd last year. There's much more going on behind the scenes and we are being vocal to keep other other sides on edge, and help ensure whoever gets Kerr pays top dollar with no added advantage.  He doesn't fit in at all with our much publicized drive toward youth and culture change.  Just can't see it for so many reasons.

So you reckon that RFC is talking up the price when the Saints have a higher draft pick ??  Still think that RFC had a real crack for Juddu$ and was more than going thru the machinations to get Carlscum to the table for Wet Toast.

Personally, I think Wallace is jockeying for power within the new RFC structure, as he has lost Miller and is without a placed ally cos Armstrong is largely irrelevant.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #141 on: August 30, 2008, 11:04:37 PM »
Maybe RFC might be going after Kosi.

Our 1st + 2nd rounder for Kosi + St's 1st rounder ?

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #142 on: August 30, 2008, 11:08:23 PM »
Maybe RFC might be going after Kosi.

Our 1st + 2nd rounder for Kosi + St's 1st rounder ?

Gawd, an undersized injury prone duffus with the traffic awareness of a kid at their 1st day of kindergarden.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #143 on: August 31, 2008, 07:24:54 AM »

So you reckon that RFC is talking up the price when the Saints have a higher draft pick ??  Still think that RFC had a real crack for Juddu$ and was more than going thru the machinations to get Carlscum to the table for Wet Toast.

Personally, I think Wallace is jockeying for power within the new RFC structure, as he has lost Miller and is without a placed ally cos Armstrong is largely irrelevant.
Yeah, I do think thats what we are doing - trying to get some other clubs involved in a fight for Kerr, taking some focus from another recruiting/trading scenario we may be considering (Warnock maybe).  I don't think Wallace could give a stuff about power within the club - he knows his future as coach is all down to the team's performance in 2009 and any amount of power is not going to change that.  And I am very sure he has no intention of hanging around to 'use' this power in other areas if he gets the chop as coach at season's end.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #144 on: August 31, 2008, 07:52:42 AM »
Voss said in the 5th quarter last night that he think that Kerr will be still there when he get there.
I hope he is as I think  he'll be more trouble that he's worth.
And plus we have some good young players that could very well be as good if not better than him.
Lets keep our pick and money and forget about Kerr.
But Jonhathon Brown I think I would rather chase him as he looks like wanting a move.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #145 on: August 31, 2008, 05:51:39 PM »
Thankfully going by what March said today we're keeping hold of our picks so that would rule out Kerr.
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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #146 on: August 31, 2008, 09:19:40 PM »
Thankfully going by what March said today we're keeping hold of our picks so that would rule out Kerr.

Apart from Wallace being quoted in The Age as saying that he is pleased with the Tigers' end to the season, Wallace said he would now go to the club's board for permission to dangle some big carrots in the trade period.

"Decisions have to be made there and they're not all my decisions," Wallace said.

"We're now locked and loaded and ready to be able to put in some sort of challenge going into next year.

"Do we go with the group that we've got at the moment, wholly and solely, or can we go out into the marketplace and add to that?

"That's a financial decision, it's not always a footy decision.

"I'd like to think the club would now give us an opportunity to go to the marketplace, but we'll see."    :o

Geez, the last time I looked the Tigers haven't played consecutive finals series in 33 years and are yet to get anywhere near a top 4 to be threatening for a premiership.  :banghead

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #147 on: August 31, 2008, 09:27:18 PM »
TW is thinking about his own hid here but regardless we definately need a ruckman. If Simmo goes down next year we will be right back where we were last year. Patto is no No. 1 ruckman and Gus and Putt are years off it if at all.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #148 on: August 31, 2008, 10:23:22 PM »
Kerr would cost to much. One rumour I heard recently was Josh Carr to Port Adelaide from Freo, J.Oakley Nicholls to Freo from Richmond and Adam Thomson to Richmond from Port Adelaide. Dont think it has any real legs to it as a rumour but I do favor player for player swaps this year.

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Re: Should Richmond chase after Daniel Kerr?
« Reply #149 on: September 01, 2008, 05:15:36 PM »
Eagles won’t offer Kerr more than three years
By Nathan Schmook
3:13 PM Mon 01 September, 2008

THE WEST Coast Eagles will not negotiate a four or five-year deal with Daniel Kerr, according to club chief executive Trevor Nisbett.

Kerr has stated publicly he wants to sign a long-term deal with the Eagles but Nisbett said such a deal was out of the question.

However, the Eagles chief was confident the club would secure Kerr, who is contracted until the end of next season, on a three-year deal at some point in 2009.

Nisbett said it would take “the deal of a lifetime” to convince West Coast to trade Kerr with picks one and three in the 2008 national draft a minimum return.

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=66799