Changes for the Port game?

[Francois Jackson]

no jackson against port and we will fall over like 9 pins

we need his toughness

[tigersalive]

Not many back up ruckman in the league do any better than Patto. 

your joking right??

other back up ruckman who are streets ahead of patto are:

kruzer
minson
blake
brogan
simon taylor
luenburger will be a gun
warnock
mcintosh and/or hale

yeah no worries patto is better than the above

Yeah ok we were talking about different things.  Many want to bring in Graham, he has less to offer than Patto.  I was referring to pure ruck backups when they work in that postion, not players like Kruezer who play 75% of his game in the forward line now Hampson is fit and claims to be backup ruckman.

Minson, Brogan and Taylor are ahead of Patto in that area for sure, and probably Hale but he does his damage in the forward line as well, not while he's roaming the field as a backup ruckman.

[WilliamPowell]

no jackson against port and we will fall over like 9 pins

we need his toughness

Perhaps daniel but....

Jackson's job on Sunday was to tag McLean. The umpires love child of the day McLean was one of the Dee's best

Tag didn't work

[Hellenic Tiger]

Could see their samm to medium type forward players having a field day against us
Burgoynes Surjan Salopek Pearce Cassisi Motlop. Need to bring in Polo to add some extra hardness around the ball and Port have been exposed as being fragile in the contest in recent times. What we may lack in skill lets make up for it in hardness and endeavour. That is why Jackson must stay in the side also.

[Francois Jackson]

Could see their samm to medium type forward players having a field day against us
Burgoynes Surjan Salopek Pearce Cassisi Motlop. Need to bring in Polo to add some extra hardness around the ball and Port have been exposed as being fragile in the contest in recent times. What we may lack in skill lets make up for it in hardness and endeavour. That is why Jackson must stay in the side also.

No ticker, no win HT. thats the bottom line mate.

These are games we lose time and time again. If we have improved then we will win.

Im sorry to say cheap wins against the dees doesn't justify improvement in my book, its an away win in adelaide which does IMO

lets see if they have any heart whatsoever.

[Judge Roughneck]

Not many back up ruckman in the league do any better than Patto. 

your joking right??

other back up ruckman who are streets ahead of patto are:

kruzer
minson
blake
brogan
simon taylor
luenburger will be a gun
warnock
mcintosh and/or hale

yeah no worries patto is better than the above

Kruzer and Burger were both close to the #1 player in their draft crop. No shame in Patto not being in that class.

Patto is still only 21ish. Brogan, Taylor types are much more mature.

[Francois Jackson]

Not many back up ruckman in the league do any better than Patto. 

your joking right??

other back up ruckman who are streets ahead of patto are:

kruzer
minson
blake
brogan
simon taylor
luenburger will be a gun
warnock
mcintosh and/or hale

yeah no worries patto is better than the above

Kruzer and Burger were both close to the #1 player in their draft crop. No shame in Patto not being in that class.

Patto is still only 21ish. Brogan, Taylor types are much more mature.

nice try there buddy, i got you covered.

kruzer, minson, hamish crap all over patto.

look patto try's ill give you that but we need more if we are to make into the finals.

that is my opinion

[shannon]

no jackson against port and we will fall over like 9 pins

we need his toughness

Perhaps daniel but....

Jackson's job on Sunday was to tag McLean. The umpires love child of the day McLean was one of the Dee's best

Tag didn't work

Think you may be mistaken, the way i saw it and after watching the replay, tuck was on mcclean, jackson on jones, and jackson won easy

[WilliamPowell]

Think you may be mistaken, the way i saw it and after watching the replay, tuck was on mcclean, jackson on jones, and jackson won easy

I stand corrected 

[Judge Roughneck]

Not many back up ruckman in the league do any better than Patto. 

your joking right??

other back up ruckman who are streets ahead of patto are:

kruzer
minson
blake
brogan
simon taylor
luenburger will be a gun
warnock
mcintosh and/or hale

yeah no worries patto is better than the above

Kruzer and Burger were both close to the #1 player in their draft crop. No shame in Patto not being in that class.

Patto is still only 21ish. Brogan, Taylor types are much more mature.

nice try there buddy, i got you covered.

kruzer, minson, hamish crap all over patto.

look patto try's ill give you that but we need more if we are to make into the finals.

that is my opinion

fool - you never have nor will have me covered. We have discussed this before.

 - Kruzer was pick #1. Rated as the outstanding player of his draft crop along side Cotchin.
 - Luenburger was consitered by many as the #1 player in th '06 'superdraft', and consitered in the clear top 4 with Gibbs/Hansen/Gumbleton.

Patto is abit older than these two, but was a late first rounder. To expect him to be in the class of the other two is unrealistic.

Mcintosh & Hale might have also been top 10 picks from memory.

Pattison 22yr 3mth

Brogan 29yr 6 mth (7+ years older...)
Taylor is also mid 20s.

Pattison has been fast tracked, played almost 50 games cause we have no one else. Cartledge is a VFL ruckman. Laycock stayed on essendons list FFS. Graham is a unco, 3 times as much as Patto.

[Mr Magic]

Out: Hyde, Jackson, Bowden
In: Hughes, Polo, Edwards

[camboon]

Cut it out, at least Patto will always give his best week in week out, we need a tall as a forward and if Cleave wont cant take his opportunity Patto will at least make a contest of it.

Like to see Any Collins get a go as well as a last chance for Danny Myer once he is fitt. Would suggest that Conners is close to a getting a shot.

Who gos out should be the ones that didnt keep running for the full game against Melb, thank goodness for Rich Tambling and Richo - thats what real courage is about - they were there when we need them

[Francois Jackson]

Not many back up ruckman in the league do any better than Patto. 

Kruzer and Burger were both close to the #1 player in their draft crop. No shame in Patto not being in that class.

Patto is still only 21ish. Brogan, Taylor types are much more mature.

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keep punching scotty you will get their one day

you have been out played once again by myself, maybe you should join up with your other buddy dawson

[one-eyed]

from Fairfax news...

Cleve Hughes, who has kicked 11 goals in his last two VFL games, is in line for a senior recall.

"He will certainly come up in selection discussion during the week," Wallace said.

http://news.smh.com.au/sport/richmond-on-the-hop-after-halftime-20080617-2s26.html

[Smokey]

keep punching scotty you will get their one day

you have been out played once again by myself, maybe you should join up with your other buddy dawson

Maybe you should give your hand a break and stop self-congratulating - the only one you're impressing is yourself.  Try bringing a fact to the table, then you might be allowed to talk to the big people, although you will have to learn to write with pens and not crayons.  You really have stepped up to the plate as King Dribbler over the past few weeks.