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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 07:53:18 PM »
TMonk

2nd half of the 2nd qtr 15-17 minutes was great  :thumbsup

Will be taping it myself to watch tomorrow night

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 07:57:09 PM »
Monk if you restrict yourself to the second quarter and the last 15 minutes of the match you'd be pleasantly surprised. The rest ummm nosogood.....

Would think the other 3 quarters was the worst football of have seen( both teams) in a long long time. Thank god for Richo

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 07:57:14 AM »
well will let you know after l watch it & disect it  ;D

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2008, 03:13:34 PM »
How was beating Melbourne 'good'?

Well for a start it's a shitload better than losing.

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2008, 03:18:55 PM »
How was beating Melbourne 'good'?

Well for a start it's a poohload better than losing.

Pick #10 is better than pick #3?

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2008, 03:20:51 PM »
How was beating Melbourne 'good'?

Well for a start it's a poohload better than losing.

Pick #10 is better than pick #3?

You seriously wanted to lose 11 games in a row? Sorry, that's not for me, I'm a simple soul and I like winning.

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2008, 05:06:36 PM »
We won at the Dome for the first time in 2 years  :o. We won playing just 20 mins of good footy. The Dees had pushed the Pies and Hawks to within a couple of kicks in the last few weeks.

If we back up the win this week then we should make $$$ in the 100G at the G game with Blues fans back on the bandwagon after 7 years.
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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2008, 05:41:46 PM »

Pick #10 is better than pick #3?

You got me thinking Bentleigh so I did a bit of checking and it makes interesting reading.  Here is the difference in Pick 3 and Pick 10 from the last 7 drafts (I didn't include 2007 as they are all still too new to be a valid comparison):

06
3 - L. Hansen - 3 games.
10 - N. Brown - 10 games.

05
3 - B. Dowler - 3 games.
10 - S. Hurn - 36 games.

04
3 - T. Williams - 18 games.
10 - M. Bate - 39 games.

03
3 - K. Bradley - 53 games.
10 - B. Stanton - 88 games.

02
3 - J. Brennan - 71 games.
10 - J. Laycock - 50 games.

01
3 - A. Sampi - 78 games.
10 - N. Del Santo - 132 games.

00
3 - D. Smith - 21 games.
10 - A. McGrath - 104 games.

So looking at this, the only year where Pick 10 wasn't better than Pick 3 was in 2002 and players that could have been taken at Pick 10 that year include B. Schammer, D. Bell, T. Selwood, W. Minson, J. Rivers, D. Merrett, B. Staker, A. Selwood and R. Shirley.

Not much of a case for tanking or losing, especially to a side that has more pressing issues with confidence and learning to win games.

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2008, 05:48:51 PM »
Very nice work, smokey.  :)

(Are the pick's from the Phantom Draft, though?)  :-X
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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2008, 06:21:48 PM »
watched the game well missed the 1 st quarter & half the 2nd quarter due to customers not taking the hint to get out the door  >:( Tigers went berserk in the 2nd quarter  ;D
last half of game was ok at least good stuff to mention was Polak in the backline taking it on & Tambling looked good & White continues to play well & do the hard running, smothering, & tackling.
Shultzs looked good & Richo playing great.
Melbourne can play some good football & have some very good players & are known to push side
Overall l'm happy with what l seen, its only a matter of time before this Tiger side gives out some punishment & will smash some sides

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2008, 06:28:26 PM »
You got me thinking Bentleigh so I did a bit of checking and it makes interesting reading.  Here is the difference in Pick 3 and Pick 10 from the last 7 drafts (I didn't include 2007 as they are all still too new to be a valid comparison):
How did you work out those picks smokey?

2006: 3 - Lachlan Hansen 10 - Nathan Brown
2005: 3 - Xavier Ellis        10 - Marcus Drum
2004: 3 - Ryan Griffen      10 - Chris Egan
2003: 3 - Colin Sylvia       10 - Ryley Dunn
2002: 3 - Jared Brennan   10 - Jason Laycock
2001: 3 - Chris Judd        10 - Sam Power
2000: 3 - Alan Didak        10 - Jordan McMahon
1999: 3 - Aaron Fiora       10 - Luke McPharlin
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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2008, 07:09:08 PM »
A win is always better than losing.

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2008, 07:58:13 PM »
You got me thinking Bentleigh so I did a bit of checking and it makes interesting reading.  Here is the difference in Pick 3 and Pick 10 from the last 7 drafts (I didn't include 2007 as they are all still too new to be a valid comparison):
How did you work out those picks smokey?

2006: 3 - Lachlan Hansen 10 - Nathan Brown
2005: 3 - Xavier Ellis        10 - Marcus Drum
2004: 3 - Ryan Griffen      10 - Chris Egan
2003: 3 - Colin Sylvia       10 - Ryley Dunn
2002: 3 - Jared Brennan   10 - Jason Laycock
2001: 3 - Chris Judd        10 - Sam Power
2000: 3 - Alan Didak        10 - Jordan McMahon
1999: 3 - Aaron Fiora       10 - Luke McPharlin

Bentleigh's comment was us getting the 3rd pick instead of 10th so just comparing apples to apples.  There are no priority picks this year - it will be a genuine draft so I didn't count priority picks because they are somewhat outside of the scope of the ladder position and might (I didn't check if they did but it doesn't alter the thrust of the point) skew the results.  In other words if we finished 14th (3rd pick)  in each of those years what was the first possible pick and if we finished 7th (10th pick) what was the first possible pick.  I took the 3rd genuine pick and the 10th genuine pick.

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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2008, 08:06:28 PM »
How was beating Melbourne 'good'?

Well for a start it's a poohload better than losing.

Pick #10 is better than pick #3?

You seriously wanted to lose 11 games in a row? Sorry, that's not for me, I'm a simple soul and I like winning.

The question is - do you want to win a flag (long term success) or winning meaningless games against Melbourne types (short term gain).


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Re: How was beating Melbourne 'good'?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2008, 08:09:07 PM »

The question is - do you want to win a flag (long term success) or winning meaningless games against Melbourne types (short term gain).


I think it is more important at this stage of our list's development to learn how to win and gain the confidence and strength that goes with that, regardless of who we beat.