Brereton: RFC youngsters not enough for top 3 consistency.

[Ramps]

Gave his opinion that we dont have enough youngsters to take us to top 3 teams consistently. And therefore not real premiership contenders. Our KPPs are low in terms of real quality. We dont have enough quality overall.

IMHO I think Brereton is correct, our list only has the potential to reach the bottom reaches of the 8. We need more talent.

[Tigermonk]

  Brereton who gives a rats ass what he's got to say 
club is rebuilding,  its very young & got to get games in the players legs which will take about 1-2 more years
we will pick up more players in them next 2 years so wtf does he know, we pushed his top 3 side & have pushed all present top 3 sides this year lose to Geelong 30pts, Hawks by 12pts & Bulldogs draw so he needs to do some more lines & have a good think about what he says
he was a champion but he wants to remember when he was drafted from Frankston, & he walked into a strong established side thats why they were successful & he got out when they needed to rebuild cause he got greedy

[richmondrules]

Brereton has never said a nice thing about the RFC. Talk about having an agenda. Luckily it is hard to take offence since he looks so incredibly stupid.

Having said that we no doubt have a way to go.

I enjoyed last week against the Eagles. 

[Moi]

Brereton who gives a rats ass what he's got to say 
club is rebuilding,  its very young & got to get games in the players legs which will take about 1-2 more years
we will pick up more players in them next 2 years so wtf does he know, we pushed his top 3 side & have pushed all present top 3 sides this year lose to Geelong 30pts, Hawks by 12pts & Bulldogs draw so he needs to do some more lines & have a good think about what he says
he was a champion but he wants to remember when he was drafted from Frankston, & he walked into a strong established side thats why they were successful & he got out when they needed to rebuild cause he got greedy

Too many words to have this in my signature, but I'm shocked at this post.
After all the bagging you do of TW and you actually understand what the club is doing - that's deceitful 

Re Dermie as a player, Richo's probably kicked twice as many goals as he ever did.  He was a great player Dermie IMO, but he's always had a big head and that makes you less of a champion in my eyes.
Is he going to hold this "We've got Franklin" for the rest of his career, even after we've won a premiership before them :-)
We're building up a champion team as opposed to a team of champions 

[mightytiges]

Does Dermie realise there's actually a draft this year and another next year and another after that infinitum or is it because the Hawks no longer get early picks he doesn't care about the draft. What an idiot. Of course we're nowhere near the top 3 sides and we still need to add to and improve our list but hello captain obvious. We had half the side on the weekend with less than 50 games experience. It's called rebuilding!

[Stripes]

There is a number of media personalities to have an agenda against the Tigers. I have been listening to SEN for years now when Dermie was a commentator with Huddo before being replaced by the Ox. All three of these figures have a real hatred for our club and struggle to find a good world about it. Of these media personalities Huddo has the greatest dislike, followed by Dermie with the Ox and distant third.

While Dermie was a commentor he would always stick the knives into the Tigers particularly about our development. What Dermie choses not to see is that we still have a great deal of young players who are not in the current team and are still developing 'behind the scenes'. These players give us depth and are quality players such as Rance, Putt, Gourdis, Collins and Collard who are yet to play a senior game for us. On top of this we have players such as Thursfield, King, Meyer, Cogs and Graham who were missing from last weeks team but are all important, or at least potentially important, part of our future.

We have a very young list. Even the young players who are in our starting line up are all still developing and improving so considering the improvements we have made recently how could Dermie state that we have no chance on being a Top 3 team.

Dermie is clueless 

Stripes

[Francois Jackson]

Does Dermie realise there's actually a draft this year and another next year and another after that infinitum or is it because the Hawks no longer get early picks he doesn't care about the draft. What an idiot. Of course we're nowhere near the top 3 sides and we still need to add to and improve our list but hello captain obvious. We had half the side on the weekend with less than 50 games experience. It's called rebuilding!

hawks are fast becoming my most second hated team behind the blues, and thats due to idiots like dermie..
he needs to hit commercial road and down another disco biscuit before commenting on the richmond fc.

ill tell you id love for the hawks to miss out on a flag this year and next, then miss their window of opp like the saints have done..

[Fwoy3]

Just out of interest as I no longer have time to follow the ressies, how are the Hawks youngsters progressing in the 2s? Aren't Box Hill Hawks near the bottom of the ladder?

[jackstar]

Gave his opinion that we dont have enough youngsters to take us to top 3 teams consistently. And therefore not real premiership contenders. Our KPPs are low in terms of real quality. We dont have enough quality overall.

IMHO I think Brereton is correct, our list only has the potential to reach the bottom reaches of the 8. We need more talent.

Agree with Ramps on this one.
We dont have enough quality overall.  I reckon our top 15 players compared to other clubs are on par,but we then get murdered by player16-22. Basically the last 6 players that get picked very week are not as good as the opposition players accordingly, thats why we get beat often.
Also
JON wont make it. Tambling is struggling. I dont believe we have the depth, keeping in mind that Richo, Bowden ,Simmo, Kane Johnson wont be playing beyond 2009.

[shannon]

ahhhhhh   dermie

this is the bloke that said harveoygive it up as he has nothing more to offer the saints

and about kpp players, imo, cleve and jack have far better kicking actions than lance and roughead, now im no expert, but i can guarantee that when our midfield start to really deliver the ball well, and cleve or jack get 15 shots at goal, they will do far better than 4 goals 7 and 4 out on the full

kpp kds that we know have the goods: cleve, jack, thurstfield, and moore. throw in the kids that we know that can  develop rance, putt and gourdis. add to that the kpp that can producef all goes well for them with health and form  polak, schulz and patto. then also add medium players that can play tall morton and possibly mguane down back

then we have our runners, lids, bling, cotch, foley, edwards, polo, connors and hopefully collins, casserly and meyer come good

so we then can assume that dermie has no idea

[Francois Jackson]

Gave his opinion that we dont have enough youngsters to take us to top 3 teams consistently. And therefore not real premiership contenders. Our KPPs are low in terms of real quality. We dont have enough quality overall.

IMHO I think Brereton is correct, our list only has the potential to reach the bottom reaches of the 8. We need more talent.

Agree with Ramps on this one.
We dont have enough quality overall.  I reckon our top 15 players compared to other clubs are on par,but we then get murdered by player16-22. Basically the last 6 players that get picked very week are not as good as the opposition players accordingly, thats why we get beat often.
Also
JON wont make it. Tambling is struggling. I dont believe we have the depth, keeping in mind that Richo, Bowden ,Simmo, Kane Johnson wont be playing beyond 2009.

true but jack seriously u cant mention sugar and depth in the same sentence.

he is bringing us down that bloke..

agree on the tambling and JON comment 100%.
i actually think they could be brothers as they both look the same and play that weak, indecisive game.

i thought tambling was supposed to be fast??? well i think i saw russell gilbert run faster at the legends game...

[shannon]

we have the kids and talent to build successful team, my only fear is that we don't have the right coach to develop and nurture these kids to become champions

[mightytiges]

Just out of interest as I no longer have time to follow the ressies, how are the Hawks youngsters progressing in the 2s? Aren't Box Hill Hawks near the bottom of the ladder?

Injured or struggling fwoy.

Thorp - hasn't come on yet. Everyone remembers him kicking 3? goals against us on debut last year but has done nothing else since. Drafted before Jack Riewoldt.

Dowler - has that car accident stuffed up hid body? He's playing at Box Hill and been in their bests the past couple of weeks but has yet come on and now in his 3rd year. Drafted before Cleve Hughes.

Bailey - did his knee. Out for the season.

Muston - Hawks drafted him despite coming back from a knee reco. In his 3rd year and out for the season again with a knee.

Rookies Grima, Stokes, Walsh are playing Box Hill seniors. Another rookie Sandilands playing Box Hill ressies.   

Don't know what's happened to Moss, Whitecross, Kennedy and McEntee but they didn't play on the weekend apparently.

Ellis (2005 draft, #3), Birchall (2005, #14), Tuck (2005, #38 F/S), Morton (2006, #33) and Rioli (2007 draft, #12) are playing in the Hawthorn side from the past 3 drafts. Renouf (2006, #24) was reported last week for hitting Selwood of the Eagles.

The Hawks topped up last year. Just two draft picks used on kids plus Dew.

[Fwoy3]

Cheers MT. So is it fair to say the Hawks depth would be tested if they were to lose Franklin and one or two mids? How strong are their key defensive posts?

[Fishfinger]

You forgot Zac Dawson, mt. 

He's been tearing it up since Clarkson "educated" him at full back a couple of seasons back.