Brereton: RFC youngsters not enough for top 3 consistency.

[Beren]

Brereton is a mid life crisis in slow motion.

[Ox]

Brereton is a mid life crisis in slow motion.

lol
classic.....true too

[Hellenic Tiger]

Everyone has an opinion on Aaron James and that's fine.
I personally did not see him as a junior but footballers careers are judged on not what they do at TAC level but what they do at AFL level. For Aaron unfortunantely that amounts to not much even though he may have been more talented at 16-17 than others whose longevity now cannot be questioned and that's where the old footy analogy talented but................ comes in to practice. Alas I remember him as a dud at the Pies and an even bigger dud with us. Remember a game in 1998 lucidly on a Friday night against the Pies where he looked lost and the Rocca boys absolutely gave him a bath. The Rocca boys kicked 10 between them so from my point of view he was crap but as a question for all in relation to the point Jack Moi FF MT Ramps  and others have
made to this thread who was a btter player Allen or Glen Jakovich or should I ask who was more talented. Talent may not get you end result if the head aint screwed on to the shoulders properly or tightly enough or there aint nothing between the ears.

As for Dermie issues with his age toughness masculinity frailty image have all started to kick in and all of a sudden he has become an old timer reminiscing and rambling on about things that mean sweet fa going off in tangents that are relative to nothing. Its time for the Dermie puppy to be put to sleep.

[jackstar]

Allen Jakovitch was a better talented player than his brother , but hos brother achieved more. His off field antics were a disgrace and he left a trail of distruction, too Glens credit, he actually covered for his brother

[dogged]

potential and 4$ will get you a cup of coffee

[tiga]

Brereton had the illustrious honour of being the only player ever to get a name plate in the judiciary car park.  If you qualify a good player based on their all round performance as a footballer, Brereton would lose out hands down. He had good skills but he was hot headed, undisciplined and a show pony. If he were at any other club than Hawthorn who at the time had an array of stars to cover his repeated suspensions, he would have been a liability.   

[1980]

Brereton had the illustrious honour of being the only player ever to get a name plate in the judiciary car park.  If you qualify a good player based on their all round performance as a footballer, Brereton would lose out hands down. He had good skills but he was hot headed, undisciplined and a show pony. If he were at any other club than Hawthorn who at the time had an array of stars to cover his repeated suspensions, he would have been a liability.   

Yeah and that Leigh Matthews was also a liability for Hawthorn, what with all those suspensions etc....   

You can knock Dermie as a bloke or a commentator or whatever, but not as a footballer when he wore a Hawthorn jumper.

 

[tiga]

Brereton had the illustrious honour of being the only player ever to get a name plate in the judiciary car park.  If you qualify a good player based on their all round performance as a footballer, Brereton would lose out hands down. He had good skills but he was hot headed, undisciplined and a show pony. If he were at any other club than Hawthorn who at the time had an array of stars to cover his repeated suspensions, he would have been a liability.   

Yeah and that Leigh Matthews was also a liability for Hawthorn, what with all those suspensions etc....   

You can knock Dermie as a bloke or a commentator or whatever, but not as a footballer when he wore a Hawthorn jumper.

 

Well 1980 please enlighten me. How do their suspension records compare?? You certainly can't compare them as players. Matthews was a VFL legend and is a multiple Premiership winning coach.

Leigh Matthews
Career: 1969-85
Games: 332. Goals: 915

Dermott Brereton
Career: 1982-1992
Games: 189. Goals: 427

As you can see, there is daylight between Matthews and Brereton. I'd say to rack up 332 games in a career suggests that he wasn't off the park for too long. Apples with apples. 

[blaisee]

Just shows what a D/head you really are.
Aaron James could play the game.
He knee was stuffed at AFL level.
You will find since leaving the AFL, he has kicked 100 goals in a season, 7 years straight, FACT.
Has recently been suspended and is now finished.
Blaisee, I wont reply to your posts anymore, you are an imbecile and  will treat you like one

typical predictable jack

Gets owned on another thread, starts with childish name-calling and then takes his bat and ball and goes home.

I couldnt give two hoots what you did jack, and you know what, neither does the rfc

[blaisee]

poor aaron he did go off the rails his finished

anyone that thinks that aaron james would be better than carey is just football incompetent, or attention seeking.

He was a promising junior, with genuine afl talent, he was never elite, hence his draft position.

Carey dominated the junior carnival as a 16 yr old, absolutely no comparison.

No suprise that Jack, agrees with dermie either. Both are attention seeking whores  , and both are football incompetent. Maybe they are the same person.    James better than Carey, what an absolute Joke, knee injury or no knee injury    ridiculous

[Tigermonk]

Yeah and that Leigh Matthews was also a liability for Hawthorn, what with all those suspensions etc....   

You can knock Dermie as a bloke or a commentator or whatever, but not as a footballer when he wore a Hawthorn jumper.

 

Good post & true, nobody can knock Dermie for his career at Hawthorn for 10 years work & his trophy cabinet tells many stories, His onfield ability playing CHF, one of  hardest positions on the ground in his day & those knocks he copped & gave out, a man who never stepped back when flying the flag. you have to admire someones footballing ability.  Knowing 100% he was there to protect his teammates would have been great to play in a team with him.
He was so hard at the game that l have no doubt,  cut his career short at Hawthorn & they knew this & also knew he was not worth the big money anymore & let him go which l believe was a good buisness decision. His career went down after that because he struggled with his body.
My mate played alongside him for many years & also in the 1885 Grand Final lose to Essendon & his told me many stories of what a great footballer he was.

[Tigermonk]

poor aaron he did go off the rails his finished

anyone that thinks that aaron james would be better than carey is just football incompetent, or attention seeking.

He was a promising junior, with genuine afl talent, he was never elite, hence his draft position.

Carey dominated the junior carnival as a 16 yr old, absolutely no comparison.

No suprise that Jack, agrees with dermie either. Both are attention seeking whores  , and both are football incompetent. Maybe they are the same person.    James better than Carey, what an absolute Joke, knee injury or no knee injury    ridiculous

l dont see anywhere in my post that l mentioned Carey or compared him with James
l'm struggling to work you out Blaisee, you Quote my post but ramble on as your talking to Jackstar   
l'm not Jackstar & l noticed you have quoted my posts a few times & spoke about what jackstar is saying 

[dereel-tiger]

poor aaron he did go off the rails his finished

anyone that thinks that aaron james would be better than carey is just football incompetent, or attention seeking.

He was a promising junior, with genuine afl talent, he was never elite, hence his draft position.

Carey dominated the junior carnival as a 16 yr old, absolutely no comparison.

No suprise that Jack, agrees with dermie either. Both are attention seeking whores  , and both are football incompetent. Maybe they are the same person.    James better than Carey, what an absolute Joke, knee injury or no knee injury    ridiculous

what junior carnival,not the national he was good but not brilliant.
he dominated the schoolboys carnival.