Bowden..The incident!!

[Infamy]

But it was because the Tigers did what they have made a bad habit of doing this season: shutting up shop way too early; if the Richmond players were running a retail business they would be bankrupt by now.

Ironically it's Joel Bowden who is the main culprit of doing this.
Even the commentary picked up on it this time when he was looking to play sideways when he had options ahead of him and Joel didn't even look up the ground to spot them.
Chris Newman even said after the game when interviewed that it was the senior players who were the ones who decided when to slow the pace of the game, so anyone blaming Terry for it is wrong.

I don't know why anyone would accuse Wallace of wanting to slow the play when every other facet of his gameplan contradicts this type of play.

[Stripes]

In the third quarter Bowden and Newman both decided to slow down the play and kick it backwards and sidewards while their was players after player leading and presenting up field. Not only does this tactic slow us down and allow the opposition to zone, flood or man up it also strips the confidence away from the players further afield who are busting a gut to get away from their direct opponent and give the backline support.

I did notice that directly after they did this a runner was sent out to them.

I appreciate Bowden's level headed play in the dieing seconds but that doesn't make up for the other errors he made during the game that cost us goals. At one stage he tries to keep up with his leading defender who marked then turned him inside out, shrugged his tackle and kicked to a leading Llyod who then neatly slotted it through. Any of our other defenders would have had the pace first to spoil and/or tackle the forward to stop them relaying an easy pass to Llyod. Joel is just too slow and can not lay a tackle!

If you can not keep up with your direct opponent there is no way you can be a good defender. In fact if you are lacking pace there is no way you can play anywhere on the ground unless you are 7ft tall and even then you would struggle.

How can you no know how to tackle and make it stick when you are 30 years old and played in defense most of your career?!

Joel is a smart operator which is why he is still playing today but our defense is starting to look good and he doesn't fit the mould. Bowden kicks sideways and backwards becasue he can't run or break the lines and he knows it. He can't act as a link up players and he can't defend a mobile opponent. He would probably make a good coach one day with his brains but playing football, unfortunately for Joel, has more to do with skill and speed.

Credit to him for the 'unsportsman-like time waisting' that won us the game but until he sudden gains back his run and learns how to be accountable......well you know the rest

Stripes

[Infamy]

Agreed Stripes
It was Bowden who was on Laycock in the last quarter. Bowden gave away the free which resulted in a goal and then Laycock marked on him twice at the end of the game, Bowden was lucky that Laycock is incompetant and couldn't convert in all his other attempts.
Any other player with a grain of talent and it would have been Bowden who lost us the game.

[Tigermonk]

thats just it  his meant to get away from his opponant & recieve & kick goals thats his task now.
His coach pushed him back to the backline cause they know he can do the job & that means he very much a required player & teacher  get it teacher  , he kicked a nice goal & helped set some up, so dont go taking any credit away from the smart footballer Joel Bowden, everyone at Richmond is happy & 2 wins in a row makes us happy & it was a dedicated win.
l scrub the man boots for him this week but they got people to do that  well done Joel you done it again 

[Tigermonk]

Agreed Stripes
It was Bowden who was on Laycock in the last quarter. Bowden gave away the free which resulted in a goal and then Laycock marked on him twice at the end of the game, Bowden was lucky that Laycock is incompetant and couldn't convert in all his other attempts.
Any other player with a grain of talent and it would have been Bowden who lost us the game.

putting Bowden on a ruckman is just stupity & if the game was lost you could blame your coaches matchups
But in any case Joel won the game so stop whinging like a broken record of the Essendon theme song it never got played this week 

[Infamy]

Bowden had 6 clangers for the game, was key to slowing down the play which allowed Essendon back in the game TWICE and his direct opponent at the end of the game had 3-4 shots on goal in the dying minutes.

If you can't see the major flaws in Bowden's game then you're delusional!!!

As for it being a mismatch, Bowden should have been able to run rings around Laycock who is a complete spud. If Bowden can't outrun a spud just because he's tall then what hope does he have?

[tigersalive]

Bowden had 6 clangers for the game, was key to slowing down the play which allowed Essendon back in the game TWICE and his direct opponent at the end of the game had 3-4 shots on goal in the dying minutes.

If you can't see the major flaws in Bowden's game then you're delusional!!!

As for it being a mismatch, Bowden should have been able to run rings around Laycock who is a complete spud. If Bowden can't outrun a spud just because he's tall then what hope does he have?

Laycock's one strength is marking and Laycock would be 10-15 cm taller than him, that's a significant advantage.  You're delusional if you think that was a good match up for Joel, the ball came in high and so Laycock had the clear win on him.

Lucky that Laycock is pretty horrible in most other aspects . . . like goal kicking. 

[Tigermonk]

Bowden had 6 clangers for the game, was key to slowing down the play which allowed Essendon back in the game TWICE and his direct opponent at the end of the game had 3-4 shots on goal in the dying minutes.

If you can't see the major flaws in Bowden's game then you're delusional!!!

As for it being a mismatch, Bowden should have been able to run rings around Laycock who is a complete spud. If Bowden can't outrun a spud just because he's tall then what hope does he have?

Laycock's one strength is marking and Laycock would be 10-15 cm taller than him, that's a significant advantage.  You're delusional if you think that was a good match up for Joel, the ball came in high and so Laycock had the clear win on him.

Lucky that Laycock is pretty horrible in most other aspects . . . like goal kicking. 

l'm glad you watch the game TA cause Infamy lately has lost the plot  his got it in for Joel Bowden but his dreamer, yes the matching up by our great coach amazes me many times this year.
Infamy Joel might be slowing down some but his ability to read the game & his skills are silky  he can also dominate the game. you dont have to be speedster to control football.
Its only a matter of time before Joel slots home 5 goals in a game coming to you soon, keep watching this space
in the meantime he won us a game so get off his back, do yourself a favor & go learn something about football because your lacking it lately. l know you got some good in you 

[mjs]

"Bowden had 6 clangers for the game,"


Equal 17th in the AFL this week 

Chance Bateman and Andrew McLeod had 8 each.

[Infamy]

l'm glad you watch the game TA cause Infamy lately has lost the plot  his got it in for Joel Bowden but his dreamer, yes the matching up by our great coach amazes me many times this year.
Infamy Joel might be slowing down some but his ability to read the game & his skills are silky  he can also dominate the game. you dont have to be speedster to control football.
Its only a matter of time before Joel slots home 5 goals in a game coming to you soon, keep watching this space
in the meantime he won us a game so get off his back, do yourself a favor & go learn something about football because your lacking it lately. l know you got some good in you 

I'm happy to admit that Joel does good things in a game, but I refuse to join in on the circle jerk on how fantastic he is when he does just as many bad things in a game than he does good. The next time I see him hold the ball up in the air to signal to slow down the game I'm going to stuffin FLIP OUT!!!

[one-eyed]

Leigh Matthews today...

"The spirit of the game argument is the greatest load of rubbish, the spirit of the game is you use the rules to your best advantage," he said of Bowden's match-saving tactics.

"I think Joel Bowden should be applauded for using the rules to Richmond's advantage - that is what the game is all about and it's up to the rule makers to put the rules in there to make the game they way they want it to be."

http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/lethal-bowden-brings-flaws-to-the-fore-52843

[Tigermonk]

thats means when Richo holds the ball up your going to go flipant, (Bulldogs game) how many AFL players you see every week hold the ball up  yes Joel needs to clean up his clanger acts l know one kickout he did fell into the arms of some bomber player but l dont know who cause l cringed & looked away. did he kick that goal l think he missed that bomber player  Knighter will have them goal kicking practice this week.
Wallace will have our drilling coming out the the backline new game plan 

[Ox]

Yeh...thank God Joel is instinctively a lazy,sneaky prick....

His coach has great faith in him like most Richmond supporters do
his role is to help win games, he did that & is why Wallet sends him to the backline in the dying moments minutes he knew who would stop the wave of attacks. The Richmond backline was spent & the young blokes needed someone who could do the job Joel Bowden did it & the way he did it made it all the more memorable.  Essendon & thier scummy whinging fans wont forget that in a hurry  it will be forever brought up when the 2 teams meet & have close matches.
Dont foget the great goal Joel kicked & the goals his helped setup. Joel Bowden is a very required player in the Richmond side & l dont see you bagging out Browny who stopped chasing & got blasted for being peeweak
Players had another bad 3rd quarter & need to work on putting teams away instead of thinking they have it won when they aint. Joel made a bad mistake but he is always called to the backline to help out when he should be playing up forward like the coach promised. We have a problem coming out of the backline & until that is fixed, Richmond will always struggle. Hail Joel Bowden he saved our asses  give him credit cause alot of great footballers think his very smart in what he did & how do you know his coach didnot tell him to do what he did in icing Essendon haha
Maybe Terry will tell you on Tuesday 
Richmond has a backline in the making, we cannot expect miricales, Moore off his feet is doing a great job & can get better, This lad has really shook off his injuries & is showing why he was kept on the list. Thursfields lack of match time in the last month took its toll, & McGuane played superb & was spent. Shulzs playing well in a backline role was spent will only get better & Newmans game & style has lifted in the past few months was spent. McMahon was spent had a good game & is blending in well,  & until them lads get it all together & workout a plan & practice it to come out of the backline & change the dynamics of the Richmond backline game plan will release Joel ever going back there & a new Richmond will be born.
Also dont take nothing away from Essendon who played & foughtout the game cause they have been on a role & the beat a good Brisbane side last week, something we must now do ourselves cause they willnot give up a spot in the finals lightly & alot of them premiership players will lift cause they know whats at stake

yeh.......as usual,joel did some good things but negated them with his sh it things

Question is,did our youth get more out of watching a senior player steal a win through unsportsmanlike behaviour or would they have benefited more so, in the long run, from play continuing and actually beating the opposition on a level other than their own.

I doubt it very much,unless we're trying to bring thru a team of Bowdenesque players.

IDGAF What Paul Roos says.
He's been the biggest manipulator of the game of all time so im not surprised that he gives this one his blessing.

[Stripes]

Bowden recieved more clangers this week becasue he played up the ground and couldn't get his cheap desposal count up by kicking backwards and sidewards for the duration of the game. Monky - he will never kick 5 becasue he can't get away from his direct opponent.

The sad fact is is that TW put him on the players in the Essendon forwardline who was making the least impact and who was hurting us the least and all of a sudden they start to find form and look like superstars. Lucas looked like a tired old has-been before Joel was moved on him and suddenly he looked dangerous. When Bowden was moved onto Laycock the same again - he almost lost us the game.

Bowden is a liability and it is only through last minute 'heroics' such as his mark against Port and 'unsportsman-like play' against the Dons that he is keeping his place. If you look past those acts and to the rest of each game (and every game he plays recently) you will see he casues more problems than solves them.

Stripes

[Ox]

Bowden recieved more clangers this week becasue he played up the ground and couldn't get his cheap desposal count up by kicking backwards and sidewards for the duration of the game. Monky - he will never kick 5 becasue he can't get away from his direct opponent.

The sad fact is is that TW put him on the players in the Essendon forwardline who was making the least impact and who was hurting us the least and all of a sudden they start to find form and look like superstars. Lucas looked like a tired old has-been before Joel was moved on him and suddenly he looked dangerous. When Bowden was moved onto Laycock the same again - he almost lost us the game.

Bowden is a liability and it is only through last minute 'heroics' such as his mark against Port and 'unsportsman-like play' against the Dons that he is keeping his place. If you look past those acts and to the rest of each game (and every game he plays recently) you will see he casues more problems than solves them.

Stripes

Here,Hear!

Ox

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