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Tigers vs Hawks
« on: August 15, 2008, 03:45:49 AM »
Wallace's worry
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Updated: 11:16, Thursday August 14, 2008

Richmond coach Terry Wallace admits he faces a difficult decision if Hawthorn decides to repeat its tactic of playing star midfielder Luke Hodge as a spare man in defence on Sunday when the teams clash at the MCG.

Brisbane coach Leigh Matthews was roundly criticised for allowing the Hawks vice-captain to play as a loose man in defence - standing 15 metres in front of the Lions' gun centre-half-forward Jonathan Brown - during last Saturday's match in Tasmania.

As a result not only was Hodge, one of the best users of the ball in the AFL, able to dictate the tempo of the game but he was also able to severely limit Brown's influence during the Hawks' crushing 69-point win.

Hodge not only helped himself to 31 possessions - 25 of which were uncontested - but constantly got in Brown's way, blocking off his leads, and as a result the Lions champ had his worst game of the season with just six possessions and one goal.

It is a tactic the Hawks could well repeat this week against the Tigers and their own champion forward in Matthew Richardson in a game that Richmond must win to keep its finals hopes alive.

However Wallace said it was not a simple matter of just putting another player into the Tigers' attacking zone to mind Hodge, should the Hawks repeat the tactic on Sunday.

'You have got a choice, haven't you,' Wallace said.

'But if you man him (Hodge) up then you open up Buddy (Franklin's) end (of the ground) or you close down Luke but you can't have it both ways.'

Wallace said by automatically sending one of his own players down to mind Hodge in the Tigers' attack, it would mean one less player in Hawthorn's forward line - which could be potentially fatal against the league's best key forward pairing of Franklin and Jarryd Roughead.

Franklin is just nine goals away from becoming the first player since Sydney's Tony Lockett in 1998 to boot 100 goals during the home and away season while Roughead has booted 59 goals for the season.

Wallace said the key to limiting the star pair was to have extra players back in the Hawks' forward line but said you can't do that if you are forced to send a man forward to man up Hodge playing as a spare man in the Tigers' forward line.

'If you want to man up that end (Hodge) then you are making it a one-on-one scenario for their key forwards (Franklin and Roughead) and there are not too many sides that can handle their key forwards on a one-on-one basis, which they have shown all year,' Wallace said.

'So we will have to make the decision which way we go as the week goes on.'

But Wallace is in no doubt as to the size of the task confronting his side, which, even if it beats Hawthorn, has to rely on other results going their way to make the eight.

'They (Hawthorn) are getting back to their best form,' he said.

'They beat another side Brisbane last week, who are around the same spot as us (on the ladder) and also trying to force their way into the eight and they did a fair number on them.'

'So it will be a real test for our boys.'

http://www.skynews.com.au/sport/article.aspx?id=258133

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2008, 03:46:33 AM »
TAB Sportsbet Odds

Head to Head

Richmond   $ 4.75     
Hawthorn    $ 1.16     
 
Line

Richmond   +28.5 Pts      $ 1.95     
Hawthorn     -28.5 Pts      $ 1.85     
 
Margin
 
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts    $ 5.25     
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts      $21.00   
 
Hawthorn Under 39.5 Pts     $ 2.25     
Hawthorn Over 39.5 Pts       $ 2.25

Draw  $51.00

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 07:23:14 AM »
Just watch the match ups & the pathetic coaching against Wallets beloved Hawks this weekend
it will show to the Richmond supporters that he does not have RFC in his best interests
he will do nothing in the way of coaching to give us a chance of winning against the Hawks

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 05:38:03 PM »
Clarkson confident Hawks can set pace
The Age | August 16, 2008 - 12:02PM

Hawthorn take on Richmond at the MCG on Sunday and are wary of the Tigers after escaping with a 12-point win in round six.

"We've had some good contests against the Tigers over the last two or three years and we'd expect the same tomorrow," Clarkson said.

"Any side that's got Matty Richardson and (Troy) Simmonds and those type of guys in their side is a very formidable opponent.

"Kane Johnson's been in really good form, Shane Tuck has really improved as a player over the course of the last 18 months and they've brought a couple of really exciting youngsters into their mix in the last season-and-a-half."

http://news.smh.com.au/sport/clarkson-confident-hawks-can-set-pace-20080816-3wlw.html

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 10:59:47 AM »
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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 01:01:41 PM »
What odds on three consecutive 63 point losses?

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 01:32:02 PM »
What odds on three consecutive 63 point losses?
Ye of little faith
Go Tiges
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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 04:03:26 PM »
You little ripper. I honestly didn't think that we would win. So just guess who's a happy boy now. :thumbsup :gotigers

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 04:27:17 PM »
Well, won't that just rip the ar*e out of all those predicting the end of TW.  Pretty hard to mount a case for dumping him early now.  And for those who want to hang their hat on "we haven't beaten anyone above us/in the 8 etc, well - we have beaten EVERY side below us, Hawthorn and Brisbane above us, as well as a draw with the Bulldogs and threw the game v the Saints.  Pretty significant improvement for a team that finished last with 3 wins and is still one of the youngest in the competition.  Sorry TW haters, he ain't goin' anywhere just yet.  And sorry Chicken Littles, we are improving according to plan whether you choose to see it/agree with it or not.

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 04:47:08 PM »
So what happened to the Buddy factor?
I think that after this win other teams will be watching us a little more closely as we could throw a real spanner in the works.

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 05:21:35 PM »
While it wasnt the best game i have seen, it was great to beat the Hawks at their own game.

We ran the moving defensive zone well today and gave them their own back.

Richo is a gun, his desperate effort on the members wing to dive on the ball and get it out to Jack was sensational.

Our tall backs are really forming a great bond with each other and are developing very nicely. We have such great flexibility in Moore, Thursty and Lukey. They all compete well but have varying abilities to play on different types of forwards. This gives us great options/flexibility for match ups.

Newman was named in the best but i am not sure about him sometimes. He creates a lot of turnovers and does some dumb things at times. Cant question his work ethic though.

Carts looked very nervous and will be better for the run. Hopefully he plays a few more games.

All in all a great win.

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2008, 05:25:31 PM »
Just watch the match ups & the pathetic coaching against Wallets beloved Hawks this weekend
it will show to the Richmond supporters that he does not have RFC in his best interests
he will do nothing in the way of coaching to give us a chance of winning against the Hawks

at least when Jak says it it's original. :whistle

When u say it it's simply hilarious.

Well coached Terry  :thumbsup

LMAO@ The shortsightedness of this comment ;
"it will show to the Richmond supporters that he does not have RFC in his best interests

come out come out where-ever u r !!!


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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2008, 05:54:58 PM »
Just watch the match ups & the pathetic coaching against Wallets beloved Hawks this weekend
it will show to the Richmond supporters that he does not have RFC in his best interests
he will do nothing in the way of coaching to give us a chance of winning against the Hawks

I could let loose, but I will let ur total crape speak for itself  :lol @ ur total bullsh!t stupidity.
You and some of your mates should learn to shut your stupid gobs.

LMFAO that was great  :rollin :gotigers

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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2008, 06:05:28 PM »
Yes Yes Yes it was a good win.

From start to end i cant complain and i have no faults apart from Schulz's game. I thought he was average today.

Can someone tell me why we dont play Rance?? Surely he would make less clangers as schulz made today.

make lids captain i say. great game and richo and bowden you are a pair of fc.ukin beauties.



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Re: Tigers vs Hawks
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2008, 06:14:02 PM »
Yeah I thought some of Richo's efforts when outnumbered were just fantastic today especially in the last quarter on the members wing when he contested and got the ball out to Riewoldt. Just a gun player who bleeds yellow and black and clearly a better shot for goal than Buddy Franklin.

A very disciplined effort today where we were hard at the footy and fantastic to see all those Hawthorn trolls leave 22 mins into the last quarter after Richo's goal. As for Roughhead he hardly troubled the scorers and Williams was just as inconspicious other than a last quarter goal. Hawk big guns were just quiet and off their game today due to our pressure and effort.