Tyrone Vickery [merged]

[YellowandBlackBlood]

For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs.

I think he is a better ruck than Griff but prefer Griff's marking around the ground.  We need them to believe that they both belong in the team together and have them kicking the ball to each other rather than feel that they are competing for the same spot.

Sorry Y&B but TV played a game today that your man has never done. He was sensational today and was IMO almost the difference between the two sides.  Say what you like about the two but until your man actually makes a difference he is still only a guy that takes a big mark.  I was super impressed with Tyrone today.

Sensational???????

I would have thought that is the MINIMUM he should be producing each week.  His first goal was a cheap duck out the back for a Riewoldt pass, his trade mark.  His last goal was good but he should have looked back immediately after marking the ball as there was a Richmond player all on his own running into goal.  Had he missed the shot he would have been shot by all the spectators around me including myself.  Funny you set such low standards for Tyrone to make the "sensational" grade.  I just wished you were consistent with your standards across all players.

[bojangles17]

Some of his best play was whilst in the ruck , weaved thru traffic with ease at times and gave off a precision pass that was champagne football 

[big tone]

For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs.

I think he is a better ruck than Griff but prefer Griff's marking around the ground.  We need them to believe that they both belong in the team together and have them kicking the ball to each other rather than feel that they are competing for the same spot.

Sorry Y&B but TV played a game today that your man has never done. He was sensational today and was IMO almost the difference between the two sides.  Say what you like about the two but until your man actually makes a difference he is still only a guy that takes a big mark.  I was super impressed with Tyrone today.

Sensational???????

I would have thought that is the MINIMUM he should be producing each week.  His first goal was a cheap duck out the back for a Riewoldt pass, his trade mark.  His last goal was good but he should have looked back immediately after marking the ball as there was a Richmond player all on his own running into goal.  Had he missed the shot he would have been shot by all the spectators around me including myself.  Funny you set such low standards for Tyrone to make the "sensational" grade.  I just wished you were consistent with your standards across all players.

Watch the game again mate!
Get a clue! I'm trying to be respectful but you make it nearly impossible.
You sound like a  guy that looks at stats to see who played well.
I'm not trying to disagree with you on purpose but FMD you have NFI IMO if you don't think he played well today.
Tyrone was better today than any game your man Griff has played in a Tigers jumper.

[TigerLand]

Was good today, kicked some big goals. I'm more of a Griff fan than TV but if you had Ty or Griff kicking for goal I reckon I'd prefer Ty. Think Ty's best is better than Benny G's, sad to admit because I want Benny G to make it really bad. He probably has higher potential but currently Ty's best is better than Griffs.

[eliminator]

There is clearly room for both Griffiths and Vickery in the team. I think that Griffiths is more talented than Vickery but having said that Vickery's mobility and kicking are real strong points. Played a good game yesterday.

[Andyy]

Vickery is a superior kick. Probably better ruck.

Griffiths is better on the lead and better at taking grabs.

Realistically we need to play them both with Maric and Riewoldt until we decide what to do with McBean. Maric needs a chop out and Jack needs backup. Can't leave either undermanned.



Otherwise could we develop Vickery as a ruck and play Griff+Jack+Bean together as KPF's?

[Go Richo 12]

For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs.

I think he is a better ruck than Griff but prefer Griff's marking around the ground.  We need them to believe that they both belong in the team together and have them kicking the ball to each other rather than feel that they are competing for the same spot.

Sorry Y&B but TV played a game today that your man has never done. He was sensational today and was IMO almost the difference between the two sides.  Say what you like about the two but until your man actually makes a difference he is still only a guy that takes a big mark.  I was super impressed with Tyrone today.

Sensational???????

I would have thought that is the MINIMUM he should be producing each week.  His first goal was a cheap duck out the back for a Riewoldt pass, his trade mark.  His last goal was good but he should have looked back immediately after marking the ball as there was a Richmond player all on his own running into goal.  Had he missed the shot he would have been shot by all the spectators around me including myself.  Funny you set such low standards for Tyrone to make the "sensational" grade.  I just wished you were consistent with your standards across all players.

I agree with Y & B about his game not being sensational. It that kind of effort we need from him as a good/average game each week with the occasional sensational game in between (5 goals plus with some contested marks).
However, I thought it was great that Ty turned his back on the kick over the top, which can have an element of risk attached to it, and taking it upon himself to have the set shot.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I thought Tybone was effective yesterday - made the most of his chances. I also felt he worked harder which was encouraging.
I loved him taking responsibility for kicking that last goal - more please. We need Key Forwards stepping up and kicking the getable goals - even if there was a better option over the top. The handball that Jack stuffed up vs Geelong a couple of weeks ago was a symptom of a forward being coached to absolve himself to the responsibility of kicking goals which is a paradox

[Penelope]

does sensational have different meanings for different players it is applied to?

Cotchin - sensational
deledio - arguably sensational

Then way down the list

Vickery - better than what he has dished up but still plays without real fire and intent, particularly when up forward. solid to good game

[Diocletian]

I thought Vickery was sensationally adequate.

[WilliamPowell]

Thought Ty was good. He played his role and gave Ivan a much needed chop out but having a 3rd tall meant that we didn't lose out up forward when Vickery went into the ruck

Still question his intensity though because yesterday like every other games there are times where he didn't attack the contest with the ferocity he should

But having said he was good. But he needs to back this up every week. The 4-5 weekly cameos aren't good enough. He's been around long enough to show more consistency than his current output

[MintOnLamb]

Grif has far more upside IMHO, Vickery has had his chances and failed in the past, He was OK against Collingwood but still a passenger, more consistency in effort and I am happy to change my opinion.

We have been waiting for TV to become 'the man' for 5 years now, but it has not happened to date. With his size and attributes and a huge change in attitude he could take the game by the scruff of the neck and be a powerhouse instead of a AA

[Hellenic Tiger]

Minimum requirement from Ty.
Still looked hesitant but the quick movement of the footy also helped him.
Six of one, half a dozen of another.
One swallow doesn't make a summer.

[Gigantor]

one of my mates at the  footy said...we just need to accept the fact that Ty is nothing more than  an average footballer..maybe theres truth in that statement

[Chuck17]

one of my mates at the  footy said...we just need to accept the fact that Ty is nothing more than  an average footballer..maybe theres truth in that statement

Is that sensationally average?