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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1800 on: May 07, 2015, 09:41:54 PM »
I'd trade him for any kid playing Auskick at half time this weekend.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1801 on: May 08, 2015, 12:09:24 AM »
Develop him as a ruckman and build his engine

Could be his saving grace but chances are it won't happen

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1802 on: May 08, 2015, 08:46:34 AM »
Develop him as a ruckman and build his engine

I would love to see the club have done this in the past. My fear is he is past Richmond and needs a new home  :(
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1803 on: May 08, 2015, 12:18:52 PM »
does anyone think maybe its got something to do with his coach, and the stupid decision to keep his old man on the payroll.

Who has actually improved since hardwick was hired. You will find not many at all.




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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1804 on: May 08, 2015, 12:29:46 PM »
Who is ultimately to blame if a player doesn't develop well enough?

The coach?
The development coaches?
The senior development coach?
The player?

Maybe this bloke just isn't up to it. Personally I think he is talent wise - just doesn't have it between the ears.

And he'll never be a top ruckman IMO. Doesn't have the strength in the hips/legs to be a powerful ruck. Not quite agile/athletic enough (although this is one of his strong points) to be a Paddy Ryder type lean ruckman.

Could have been a solid ruck/KPF hybrid but as I said, not enough between the ears.


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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1805 on: May 08, 2015, 02:20:06 PM »
I would say Benny G, Rance, and Edwards have improved since Hardwick was appointed. But that's about it. Everyone else has either stagnated or actually have gotten worse.

Vlastuin hasn't improved much from year one (although the HB general is a hard position to master), Cotchin had that 2012 year we all speak of but maybe that has more to do with him finally getting his body right as opposed to great coaching.

Milo seems to be having '2nd year' blues.

But the most unforgivable acts for me is how he's handled Riewoldt, and Tuck. It's been talked about at lengths before so I won't elaborate further.


But back to Vickery, I think we have to accept this guy is the Colin Sylvia of our team and unless we get Dr. Phil or somebody to make him give a poo about crashing the packs and working hard for his team mates he will always be the forward which will expect it to be kicked over his head so he can run onto the ball uncontested.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1806 on: May 08, 2015, 08:08:11 PM »
Make him Captain.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1807 on: May 08, 2015, 08:29:20 PM »
I'd trade him for any kid playing Auskick at half time this weekend.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1808 on: May 08, 2015, 08:35:42 PM »
Make him Captain.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1809 on: May 17, 2015, 06:38:14 PM »
TV was pretty good today!  Snagged a few goals & gave us a good boost in the ruck during the second quarter.  His efforts at centre bounces got us back into the game, well done today Ty!     :clapping
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1810 on: May 17, 2015, 06:40:07 PM »
Needs to move forward with that now.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1811 on: May 17, 2015, 08:07:25 PM »
Needs to move forward with that now.

God no. RUCK, RUCK, Ruck, don't even mention forward. :snidegrin

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1812 on: May 17, 2015, 09:30:41 PM »
For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs. 

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1813 on: May 17, 2015, 09:33:04 PM »
For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs.
I think he is a better ruck than Griff but prefer Griff's marking around the ground.  We need them to believe that they both belong in the team together and have them kicking the ball to each other rather than feel that they are competing for the same spot.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1814 on: May 17, 2015, 10:37:37 PM »
For someone who has such a unconvincing approach he's actually a very good kick for goal. A much improved effort. I won't get my hopes up but deserves to play next week based on that effort. Maric certainly benefits from the more extended chop outs.
I think he is a better ruck than Griff but prefer Griff's marking around the ground.  We need them to believe that they both belong in the team together and have them kicking the ball to each other rather than feel that they are competing for the same spot.
Sorry Y&B but TV played a game today that your man has never done. He was sensational today and was IMO almost the difference between the two sides.  Say what you like about the two but until your man actually makes a difference he is still only a guy that takes a big mark.  I was super impressed with Tyrone today.