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Offline Phil Mrakov

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1635 on: March 21, 2015, 06:16:19 PM »
Dud, delist. Seriously
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1636 on: March 21, 2015, 06:26:57 PM »
bollocks, Vickery has the tools, he just isn't interested in using them. This aint down to anyone but the man himself.
I disagree.
They both are poo & neither should never had been a 1st round selection.
hindsight is a wonderfull thing. Vickery was always going to be first round pick, whether with us or someone else.
where are your post at the time saying he would lose interest and play with no intensity?

Hey?

It's easy to defer blame for you emos, but this is all down to Vickery, himself.

So unless you can prove that you saw this coming at the time you are talking out your arse, again.

If he was a bloke getting everything out of himself I'd agree, but he isnt. He has the talent, we see glimpses, but he is not getting the best of himself.

That is down to him. you are a bloke who is always looks for blame, so put it where it is warranted, for once.
I'm not a player scout nor do I get paid to be nor do I head the recruiting for an AFL club.
These bozos get paid the big bucks to at a minimum get a 1st round pick right.
Vickery is clumsy, has no awareness, cant kick or handball cleanly to a team mate and unlike Jack, he is a very dumb footballer with no football brain.
If you are correct and he is blessed with all the talent to succeed why is it he has no idea where to run to? Why is it that he struggles with the basic skills most times? Why is it he's such a dud?
We should of traded him away when I said to years ago.
 Now its too late because everyone (but you) knows hes a dud.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1637 on: March 21, 2015, 07:01:55 PM »
because he doesnt care.
clearly it something that has surfaced in recent times.
do you really think he would have been touted as a top ten pick if the recruiters thought he didnt care at the the time?
FMD.
That is something no one could predict when he was drafted.

why are you so keen to shift the blame from the individual to somoeone else? Is this a Christian thing?
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1638 on: March 21, 2015, 07:06:13 PM »
You have to cut him some slack for the fact that he has a terrible coach tactically who puts him up against it every week.

The team also does key forwards no favours in both speed and quality of ball movement.

He does do plenty off the ball which I like, not sure why he didn't seem to ruck as much to day while Griffiths did it.

I always think Vickery starts the game once he rucks and then after that becomes a more effective forward.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1639 on: March 21, 2015, 07:16:29 PM »
Needs to watch Petrie and how he plays. Marking is a massive problem  :wallywink

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1640 on: March 21, 2015, 07:26:54 PM »
it's simple really.

Go hard, or go home.

Vickery needs to go home.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1641 on: March 21, 2015, 07:46:18 PM »
Needs to watch Petrie and how he plays. Marking is a massive problem  :wallywink

Why?  Petrie is not much better and had on impact on the game today after Astbury went onto him.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1642 on: March 21, 2015, 07:48:40 PM »
because he doesnt care.
clearly it something that has surfaced in recent times.
do you really think he would have been touted as a top ten pick if the recruiters thought he didnt care at the the time?
FMD.
That is something no one could predict when he was drafted.

why are you so keen to shift the blame from the individual to somoeone else? Is this a Christian thing?

That's all good for the most part, except psychological testing has been in place since 2004.

So if Ty has gone off the rails mentally, as is apparent, there has to be shared blame on this.
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1643 on: March 21, 2015, 07:56:49 PM »
all well and good if this issue was right from the start. three years ago he played liked he gave a poo, now he doesnt.  Not sure how any psychological testing could have predicted that would change? What was our phycological testing at the time. we seem to be a few years at least behind the pack in most things?

Not 100% sure it applies, but is it possible to predict who will and who wont suffer depression, of whatever degree?
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And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1644 on: March 21, 2015, 08:07:54 PM »
Mitch Clarke, Nathan Thompson, Wayne Schwass etc,, get my drift?

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1645 on: March 21, 2015, 08:22:20 PM »
all well and good if this issue was right from the start. three years ago he played liked he gave a poo, now he doesnt.  Not sure how any psychological testing could have predicted that would change? What was our phycological testing at the time. we seem to be a few years at least behind the pack in most things?

Not 100% sure it applies, but is it possible to predict who will and who wont suffer depression, of whatever degree?

At the end of the day who cares. All the best, see you later and get the help you need. Have a family, eat well, enjoy life.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1646 on: March 21, 2015, 08:30:19 PM »
His attirude of disinterest remunds me of Ottens, except Ottens was good. If Ty doesn't want ti be there pee him off BUT  shouldn't the leadership group be into him?  If he played for Sydney the players wouldn't cop him, Tigers do, what does that say about our Leadership group, pitiful signs really in that our players let him get away with substandard efforts.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1647 on: March 21, 2015, 08:34:25 PM »
Needs to watch Petrie and how he plays. Marking is a massive problem  :wallywink

Why?  Petrie is not much better and had on impact on the game today after Astbury went onto him.


Not talking about today. Petrie is what I would like vickery to be over his career.

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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1648 on: March 21, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »
all well and good if this issue was right from the start. three years ago he played liked he gave a poo, now he doesnt.  Not sure how any psychological testing could have predicted that would change? What was our phycological testing at the time. we seem to be a few years at least behind the pack in most things?

Not 100% sure it applies, but is it possible to predict who will and who wont suffer depression, of whatever degree?

At the end of the day who cares. All the best, see you later and get the help you need. Have a family, eat well, enjoy life.

Absolute top 8 toxic by playing him. Needs to be peeed right orf
no disagreement there
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Re: Tyrone Vickery [merged]
« Reply #1649 on: March 21, 2015, 08:52:37 PM »
Give up, really!