We wouldn't be having this discussion if he was a 3rd round pick.
True. But he wasn't and a third round kid wouldn't be getting $400K+......
And if he was a 3rd round pick I doubt very much after 6-7 seasons he'd still be on the list .....
Exactly, if he was a 3rd round pick, he wouldn't have been gifted about 80 games and persevered with..
being gifted games is exactly what has ruined him.
to me he was a ruckman he should have spent the first 3 yrs in the magoos being developed in that role. instead a dearth of tall fwds meant we developed and played him in a role that hes just plain, well lets say average at. our problem here is list management and vickery to some degree is the scape goat for it.
personally ive long argued three talls is the way to go. most sides manage to do it.our trouble is the type of tall fwds we have and the dual roles they have. im dead set against playing just one tall in the fwd line when ivan goes for a break on the bench. that is what will happen when griffiths relieves him, structure goes out the window and riewoldt will be left one out again.i also think griffiths has struggled fwd but has done okay when given the freedom of the ruck.
ive had a holiday from the site my own fault, and have been away in victoria and sydney as well. i havent seen the last two nab games but i would be very tempted to throw young mckenzie in the deep end, we have to find a real good foil for jack if we are to go anywhere. play him keep structure and persevere for awhile regardless of performances.
supporters continually think its all about winning nothing can be further from the truth imo. we need to address list needs and develop even fast track players in roles we are deficient in.
we have too many deficiencies to be a challenger so imo development and getting games into younger blokes is the higher priority atm.
i said before the draft id be over the moon with a tall fwd set up like the following.
FF: #### - mccartin - griffiths 2nd ruck. mccartin is quality and its exactly this quality that we lack. griffiths is an ideal 2nd ruck give him more time in the ruck and rest him fwd. if we wish to change it down then rest him on the bench.
HF: Lamb - riewoldt - ####. lamb could play on a wing. but imo hes exactly the type of tall fwd we lack, he can play fwd can take a grab has good height has genuine pace and plays more like a flanker with good endurance. when developed will be a very difficult match up for any team.
if we had a small like rioli at their feet with another who has real pace and can defend as well as kick a goal then three talls is not a problem.
our structure suffers because of the type of talls we play, two dinosaurs in vickery and griffiths plus riewoldt who isnt exactly blessed with pace, and the lack of quick quality small/mediums magnifies the problem .
the galling part is this problem has been evident for how many yrs now. yet those in charge have done little to address the problems.or when they have tried they just keep on getting it wrong and place to few eggs in the one basket to rectify the problem.