Andrew Browne [merged]

[Tigeritis™©®]

If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way. 
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all. 
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure. 

[the_boy_jake]

I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.

Because none of our ruckmen are really ready to take on someone like Jolly. Browne will learn a lot from yesterday.

[Tigeritis™©®]

I think Vickery is more advanced than Browne. Same age but atleast Vickery tries to get the ball sometimes.
I know vickery isn't setting the world on fire but if I had to choose from either I think vickery is ahead by alot.

I was expecting alittle more from Browne after what some of you posters were saying that he was showing good form in the VFL. But I seen his first 2 games and I think he's no way near ready to play AFL at the moment and from what we have seen we should persist with Vickery ahead of Browne.

[TigerLand]

If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way. 
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all. 
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure. 

We played against Collingwood who don't turn the ball over easily, utilize every bit of space on the ground.

Find any ruckman that's had a good game against Collingwood this year. Let alone a 20 year old 2nd game rookie...

When your avg age is about 19 not every player will be ready but injuries suspensions and players needing a rest you have to reward the right players. Ready or not.

[Infamy]

If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.  
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.  
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.  

Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play

I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective

[Tigeritis™©®]

If he's not ready don't play him. He's just getting in other players way.  
Graham was awful too yesterday he has size strength but didn't use it at all.  
I'm not writing Browne off but I don't see why we need to play a developing project ruckman in the side when he isn't ready. Miles away at being ready.
I've seen his 2 games and I think close to the worst games I've seen from a player ever. Just an opinion but maybe JON was worse. I'm not sure.  

Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play

I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective

i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.



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[torch]

have to give Browne more match time.

we did lose by 82 points, it was his 2nd match, let him play!

he has not played since Round 1, 2009 when we lost by 83 points.

when he plays his 84th match we might win at his rate!

 

[Infamy]

Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play

I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective you fool

i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.

Browne has been regularly in the bests at Coburg and deserved his selection - Fact
Vickery has been in the Richmond side for the last 5 weeks and deserved to be dropped - Fact
Graham has been playing injured - Fact
Simmonds has retired - Fact
We have no other players to play ruck - Fact

How many facts do you want in one bloody post?

[Tigeritis™©®]

Browne has demanded selection after repeated good form at Coburg compared to Vickery who had a good run in the senior side and had a couple of off weeks so deserved to be dropped. Nothing wrong with the decision to play him and I hope they give him a run for a few weeks to see how he adjusts.
Graham has been playing injured also and with Simmonds retired, we have no one else to play

I swear you look for the negatives in everything, use some perspective you fool

i agreed with you for the most part in regards to Rance and your debate with Jackstar. But I don't know why you must resort to calling me a fool you sound just like Jackstar when you resort to personal jibes whilst using no fact in your assessment of a player.

Browne has been regularly in the bests at Coburg and deserved his selection - Fact
Vickery has been in the Richmond side for the last 5 weeks and deserved to be dropped - Fact
Graham has been playing injured - Fact
Simmonds has retired - Fact
We have no other players to play ruck - Fact

How many facts do you want in one bloody post?

is this an attempt at apologizing to me for name calling?
If it is well thankyou. I accept your apology for calling me a fool for having an opinion on the worst ruck prospect I have ever seen at Punt rd.

[Infamy]

If anything I think it just reinforces my original statement
You said I resort to personal jibes without using facts to back up my assessment
Well I had plenty of facts in my post and now you've gone on to prove my point of you being a fool by making another ridiculous statement on a developing junior ruckman.

Perhaps you should go back and read some of the comments of Angus Graham as a young developing ruckman and consider how much humble pie they've had to eat this year now he's reached the age and physical development required for an AFL senior ruckman.

[Tigermonk]

Give Browne time, take note of Collingwoods team yesterday against us it had alot of former rookies playing that have turned out good footballers

[Infamy]

Just to compare, in Darren Jolly's first ever game he managed 0 kicks, 0 handballs, 0 marks, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 0 behinds and 4 hitouts in a winning side. His 2nd match wasn't much better with 0 kicks, 2 handballs, 0 marks, 0 tackles, 0 goals, 0 behinds and 6 hitouts in another winning side.

He ended up playing 4 games that year, 3 of them were in winning sides for averages of 1.25 kicks, 1.25 handballs, 0.5 marks, 3.5 hitouts and 0 goals

In his 2nd season where he played 18 games he averaged 4.7 disposals and 5.5 hitouts per game.

[Ox]

This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.

He has a body like a peanut,FFS!

[Infamy]

This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.

He has a body like a peanut,FFS!

He was actually quite overweight when we picked him up and has improved massively in that area

[jackstar is back again]

This guys physical conditioning creates big questions about how hard he works.

He has a body like a peanut,FFS!

Didnt you see Relton Roberts earlier this year, just a picture of fitness