Next Richmond Coach Preference

[Infamy]

Anyone but Campbell

[1980]

I agree that this is a disgraceful thread.

Do you people honestly think Wallace told:
a) Simmo and McGuane to drop marks leading to opposition goals;
b) Lids to kick it over someones head to an opposition forward;
c) Richo to stand there while Waite ran off him kicking 3 goals;
d) Foley to concede a stupid 50metre penalty;
e) Richo, Riew, Simmo and Sarge to miss set shots on goal?

You mean he didn't tell 'em to do that  

Moderators please pull this thread - it is only negative and further destabilising.

Pull it because it is negative...

I am not sure it is destabilising either, to me it's just another thread where people are venting

Look I don't like it and think it's a tad over the top but not breaching the rules

As a player you should be taking the responsibility on yourself as a player to be the best you can and perform these things.

Any player who cant do the above mentioned things and blames the coach is kidding themselves as to whose fault it is.  Supporters blaming the coach for thing is just as short sighted, coaches only provide the stuff the rest is up to the player

Exactly, as a boss (and I am one) you can only do so much training & tecahing, then the staff (in this players) have to go out and excecute those instructions... our players didn't do that

As I said on another thread, head kick the coach if he deserves it but to spare our players for their insipdi effort last night is unforgiveable

As a boss you ought to know that if your staff dont follow the plan they should be sacked.

Wallace has been way too lenient on a lot of players. He's afraid to drop McMahon for one. Lets see if he drops Brown or Lids this week because they both need a big kick

[1980]

Malthouse or Choco

LMFAO at any idiot that thinks Campbell can coach. Only Richmond could be that inbred to give that 9th finish  specialist the job

[Rodgerramjet]

Malthouse or Choco

LMFAO at any idiot that thinks Campbell can coach. Only Richmond could be that inbred to give that 9th finish  specialist the job

1980 I know, it's scary but that's exactly what they will probably do.

But I am interested in what Jack thinks of campbell and why if he in fact does, think campbell will be good.

[Jackstar is back]

Jack, why do you think Campbell is the next coach?

What do you think he will or can bring to the position.

I have doubts about him as that sort of leader.

Firstly , he was bought back to the RFC for a reason. he still had a year left in his contract at Western Bulldogs which he needed to get released.
Wayne is a teriffic thinker of the game, some people might judge him by the way he played the game, but that shouldnt deter in what he can bring to the table in regards to coaching. If you assesed Alistair Clarkson the same way, he wouldnt have a coaching job. I would think that Brett Rattern would be a similar coach to a Wayne Campbell say.
May I say that the current coach hasnt really embraced the club.
I beleive we need a modern day thinker who will embrace the club.
We currently play football like basketball and we have a number of players who are currently restricted from playing there natural game. Wayne will embrace the concept of players playing there natural game in a team enviroment, currently we have players not playing there natural game with a team plan they have difficulty carrying out.
Irelevant what you personally think of Wayne Campbell the person, shouldnt be taken into account in considering Wayne Campbell the coach. Can tell you that he is a person of fantastic character with a burning desire to coach.

[Hellenic Tiger]

To all the posters I agree that the coach is responsible for the current result.

He sets the game plan, he and his assistants recruit the players and pick the team.
I agree there.

However as I have stated in another thread my doubts are even if we sack Wallace and his assistants as well as dropping player favurites to Coburg would that change the result? I feel that the fish rots from the head and in my opinion what happens on the field is a true reflection of possibly what happens in the boardroom. We have not got this right since 1976 when we sacked Tommy Hafey. Unfortunantely there is a cultural problem at Richmond and the correllation between our instability and on field problems should be there for all to see.

This talk of new stability at Richmond under Spud and now under Wallace is merely a smokescreen to us the bona fide payee of a membership(s) to keep us all enthralled vigilant and hopeful for the future. We won 8 out of 11 last year yet our Pres couldn't resist to have a jibe. That was not the time nor the place.

What would a new coach achieve? Short term he'll have a honeymoon period anyone here remember Optus Oval Rd 22 1997 and Unleash The Giesche? In Laymans terms short term gain for long term pain. Why? Because the instability in our off field structure will still exist. "The fish rots from the head" my Tigerish friends. Until the board itself unites with the on field coaching staff or all board members are on the same page we are going nowhere. No new coach would change overall results long term and we would be merely sitting here in the last year of tenure of every coach who coaches the club in the future and reiterating the same things over and over and over again.

I am not endorsing Wallace as coach for next week or the rest of the year or beyond that, and I am neither presenting a cogent argument for any possible candidate that will replace Wallace, all I am merely doing is providing an appraisal of the club as a whole that I feel is pertinent and needs to be examined before we even consider to go down a certain path. As a member I feel that my disappointment is reflective in the content of this message and applicable to at least be considered by those that can influence something/ anything/change at Punt Rd. 27 years is enough to be lied to and taken advantage of in a financial and emotional way. You would not treat your worst enemy that way. Right now the club as a whole is no better than an evil investment scheme where people invest big bucks for no return only for other to reap rewards that ultimately mean nothing to the investor or fan/member in this case.

[julzqld]

Where's John F. - he loves Campbell.

[1980]

Jack, why do you think Campbell is the next coach?

What do you think he will or can bring to the position.

I have doubts about him as that sort of leader.

Firstly , he was bought back to the RFC for a reason. he still had a year left in his contract at Western Bulldogs which he needed to get released.
Wayne is a teriffic thinker of the game, some people might judge him by the way he played the game, but that shouldnt deter in what he can bring to the table in regards to coaching. If you assesed Alistair Clarkson the same way, he wouldnt have a coaching job. I would think that Brett Rattern would be a similar coach to a Wayne Campbell say.
May I say that the current coach hasnt really embraced the club.
I beleive we need a modern day thinker who will embrace the club.
We currently play football like basketball and we have a number of players who are currently restricted from playing there natural game. Wayne will embrace the concept of players playing there natural game in a team enviroment, currently we have players not playing there natural game with a team plan they have difficulty carrying out.
Irelevant what you personally think of Wayne Campbell the person, shouldnt be taken into account in considering Wayne Campbell the coach. Can tell you that he is a person of fantastic character with a burning desire to coach.

Yeah look at all the clubs lining up to give campbell a senior gig... NONE

Only club that ever rated him was richmond, which made him a lazy stats over team specialist. Just the kind of coach we need

He has milked this club and given back lots of 9th finishes. A senior player who more than once when we needed to win
the last H&A game to make the finals, threw in the towel. No burning desire as a player to play in finals, and will have none either as a coach.

[Mr Magic]

Anyone but Wallet.

[Ramps]

Jack, why do you think Campbell is the next coach?

What do you think he will or can bring to the position.

I have doubts about him as that sort of leader.

Firstly , he was bought back to the RFC for a reason. he still had a year left in his contract at Western Bulldogs which he needed to get released.
Wayne is a teriffic thinker of the game, some people might judge him by the way he played the game, but that shouldnt deter in what he can bring to the table in regards to coaching. If you assesed Alistair Clarkson the same way, he wouldnt have a coaching job. I would think that Brett Rattern would be a similar coach to a Wayne Campbell say.
May I say that the current coach hasnt really embraced the club.
I beleive we need a modern day thinker who will embrace the club.
We currently play football like basketball and we have a number of players who are currently restricted from playing there natural game. Wayne will embrace the concept of players playing there natural game in a team enviroment, currently we have players not playing there natural game with a team plan they have difficulty carrying out.
Irelevant what you personally think of Wayne Campbell the person, shouldnt be taken into account in considering Wayne Campbell the coach. Can tell you that he is a person of fantastic character with a burning desire to coach.

Why would we pick Campbell over someone like Hardwick - On the surface it looks like Hardwicks CV is a better CV in terms of having done a proper apprenticeship. Campbell is also seen by our supporters as a person who was part of pretty unsuccessful era in our clubs history. Does Campbell have the Gonads to retire the likes of Bowden and Johnson, Will he have the balls to get rid of blokes who will never take RFC forward. I dont think Hardwick would have any trouble putting a line through the non achievers.

[Jackstar is back]

Ramps.
Johnson and Bowden last year.

[Jackstar is back]

Jack, why do you think Campbell is the next coach?

What do you think he will or can bring to the position.

I have doubts about him as that sort of leader.

Firstly , he was bought back to the RFC for a reason. he still had a year left in his contract at Western Bulldogs which he needed to get released.
Wayne is a teriffic thinker of the game, some people might judge him by the way he played the game, but that shouldnt deter in what he can bring to the table in regards to coaching. If you assesed Alistair Clarkson the same way, he wouldnt have a coaching job. I would think that Brett Rattern would be a similar coach to a Wayne Campbell say.
May I say that the current coach hasnt really embraced the club.
I beleive we need a modern day thinker who will embrace the club.
We currently play football like basketball and we have a number of players who are currently restricted from playing there natural game. Wayne will embrace the concept of players playing there natural game in a team enviroment, currently we have players not playing there natural game with a team plan they have difficulty carrying out.
Irelevant what you personally think of Wayne Campbell the person, shouldnt be taken into account in considering Wayne Campbell the coach. Can tell you that he is a person of fantastic character with a burning desire to coach.

Yeah look at all the clubs lining up to give campbell a senior gig... NONE

Only club that ever rated him was richmond, which made him a lazy stats over team specialist. Just the kind of coach we need

He has milked this club and given back lots of 9th finishes. A senior player who more than once when we needed to win
the last H&A game to make the finals, threw in the towel. No burning desire as a player to play in finals, and will have none either as a coach.

Clubs werent queueing up for Clarkson or Rattern either..
As I said in my  post, you need to look further than Wayne Campbell the player

[bojangles17]

if wallace was to be sacked soon then I reckon sheeds would take over in a caretaker capacity under the guise of opening the field up post season. There is no way known that a rookie such as Cambo could be given reigns a month into the season...only other options would be McCrae or King   ...Club seems to have set a precedent in listening to the masses and if the cards dont unfold to plan then I suspect the momentum will all be going in one direction.

[cub]

You say you have to look past Campbell the player Jack, and I may be wrong here. But how can someone get the respect of the players he coaches to go hard 'which is something we need in our game' when he himself did not. It may only be subconsciously but it is there and is in the makeup of the team and plan.
I would be more inclined to take a punt on Hardwick, just for the plain fact that the team as a whole over the last 20-30 years needs to harden the F*^& up.

I wasn't going to go on this week, so that will do 

 

[Moi]

Jack, why do you think Campbell is the next coach?

What do you think he will or can bring to the position.

I have doubts about him as that sort of leader.

Firstly , he was bought back to the RFC for a reason. he still had a year left in his contract at Western Bulldogs which he needed to get released.
Wayne is a teriffic thinker of the game, some people might judge him by the way he played the game, but that shouldnt deter in what he can bring to the table in regards to coaching. If you assesed Alistair Clarkson the same way, he wouldnt have a coaching job. I would think that Brett Rattern would be a similar coach to a Wayne Campbell say.
May I say that the current coach hasnt really embraced the club.
I beleive we need a modern day thinker who will embrace the club.
We currently play football like basketball and we have a number of players who are currently restricted from playing there natural game. Wayne will embrace the concept of players playing there natural game in a team enviroment, currently we have players not playing there natural game with a team plan they have difficulty carrying out.
Irelevant what you personally think of Wayne Campbell the person, shouldnt be taken into account in considering Wayne Campbell the coach. Can tell you that he is a person of fantastic character with a burning desire to coach.

I thought you told us Sheeds would be next coach
I thought you told us you wanted Sheeds to be the next coach
What happened?