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Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« on: March 29, 2009, 04:05:15 AM »
Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk
Caroline Wilson | March 29, 2009

JUST as there has never been a build-up to a season-opener like the hoopla that punctuated the months, weeks and days leading up to Thursday night's game between Richmond and Carlton, it is impossible to remember a more thumping letdown. The shocked disappointment in Richmond's performance has reverberated around the football community.

The Tigers' predicted resurgence had most football fans excited, not least the AFL. A quality clash between the rival titans of old was one for the romantics, just as it was for the entrepreneurs, even before Richmond took its calculated risk on Ben Cousins.

To sit among the sell-out crowd at the MCG proved a surreal exercise in human deflation en masse. The roar when the Tigers ran out onto the ground tripled that of Carlton's for all the Blues' pre-season promise, and when Matthew Richardson marked up forward in the opening minute, there was a tantalising glimpse of what might have been.

If the crowd's hysteria was deafening then, the stunned silence of Richmond supporters after half-time was even louder.

Murphy's Law prevailed for the Tigers on Thursday night. Put aside the financial result, and everything that possibly could have gone wrong did. Thank heavens for Richmond that club memberships are not refundable, although it was an economic opportunity lost when you consider that the Blues' telephone lines and supporters' credit cards reportedly went into overdrive on Friday.

Shock on Thursday night turned to denial turned to anger turned to finger-pointing. The blame game has been astute at times, frenzied and random at others, just as the media's predicted ramifications have been occasionally ridiculous. A history of weak boards, failed coaches, poor recruiting, dreadful football skills and a lack of intensity on the playing arena borne from selfishness and a comfortable group of footballers that has yet to show they truly desire success haunted the team that failed to give a yelp against Carlton.

Coach Terry Wallace is under the pump, as he should be, although to suggest that the media in a matter of weeks will be calling for Kevin Sheedy to step in shows a complete lack of understanding of football commentators and journalists, who know to a man — and woman — that Sheeds will never coach again.

If Wallace was to be replaced mid-season, then the obvious choice in the short term — and perhaps longer — would be Wayne Campbell, whose return to the Tigers was far more ominous where the senior coach was concerned than Sheedy.

But Wallace, who has been notoriously pessimistic about the Tigers' prospects in the past, entered 2009 believing he had a team capable of playing finals. His club believed he had the manpower capable of delivering a game plan which was hopefully not the terrified rabbit-in-the-headlights short game witnessed three nights ago.

The biggest problem for the coach is that his players froze on the big stage in a similar manner to the way they did in his very first game at the helm of the Tigers against Geelong in round one 2005. Just how far the playing group has come since then is a disturbing question, and those who will decide Wallace's fate must be asking themselves why he could not instil a sense of belief in the players.

The media hype surrounding Cousins did not sell-out the MCG; Cousins and his messy back story combined with his past brilliance and potential on-field clash with Chris Judd did that. His role in Richmond's failure was that of a cameo. Whatever the means, the end result of recruiting Cousins saw a notoriously weak club back its supposed improvement to state it could handle whatever sideshow Cousins came to represent.

Unfortunately, the club and the player are at crossroads now. Cousins, despite his property portfolio back in Western Australia, is desperate for money to complete his documentary, which is losing value by the day and has sold himself to the media reasoning that if he cannot beat them, he might as well join them. Richmond wants him to be one of a team and yet has reaped handsomely from his individual notoriety. Not ideal.

The Tigers also backed themselves to cope with the heavy symbolism of Sheedy, who told the players at the season launch they could win the flag. But Sheedy again will have proved an amiable sideshow should Richmond recover from this and reach the finals.

It is impossible to analyse Richmond's malaise without returning to the crucial national draft of 2004. Danny Frawley had been removed by Greg Miller and Clinton Casey and replaced by Wallace. Miller and Casey were in election mode and campaigned on Wallace's five-year plan and the club's five top-20 draft picks.

Richmond picked up Brett Deledio, Richard Tambling, Danny Meyer, Adam Pattison and Dean Polo. Hawthorn, with three top 10s, took Jarryd Roughead (after Deledio), Lance Franklin (after Tambling) and Jordan Lewis. Carlton, with one top-10 pick, took Jordan Russell.

The following year, the Tigers had one top-10 pick and took Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls. Carlton, with two top-10 picks, took Marc Murphy and Josh Kennedy, who became part of the Judd trade. That was 3˝ years years ago. Say no more.

As recently as 2006 (Graham Polak for pick No. 8 ), the Tigers were trading away top-10 draft picks for older players. The first and most expensive lure of the Miller era (Nathan Brown for picks 6 and 20) has been a costly failure.

The public and media response to Richmond's capitulation on Thursday night was not an over-reaction. The Tigers and their soon-to-be-out-of-contract coach deserve all the scrutiny they will get.

But the club demanded the spotlight pre-season, reaped the benefits and must now endure it. The good news for Wallace — and pardon the pun — is that it's still only March.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/tigers-fail-the-walk/2009/03/28/1237657211217.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 08:44:10 AM »
Have to say I agree with Caro. And in particular some of the recruiting has been deplorable.

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 12:25:19 PM »
Totally agree, should be good viewing on monday nights footy classified

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 12:54:50 PM »
She spins as per normal.

The trade of Polak cost us NOTHING. We were taking Riewoldt at 8 regardless. Anyone that attended the draft night can attest to this fact, we downgraded our pick in the Polak trade and come draft time we were still able to get our man in Riewoldt.

She mentions JON, who was taken pick 8. Marc Murphy was a number 1 draft pick and Kennedy a number 4 pick after one of Carlton famed tanking efforts. Bit of an average comparison.

How is Luke Livingston going Caro?

From 2000 onwards EVERY team has 1st round busts, and plenty of them. Anyone would think JON is the only one.

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 01:02:11 PM »


we were predicted last year by many so called media personal to finish wooden spooners

HOW WRONG that we have recruited poorly,  not every player will make AFL but the minimum process is around 4 years to fully judge them at most clubs

we have the players to win games & we won games last year that we would throw away in other years gone by
we proved that winning 8 of the last 11 games last year, including beating the premiers of 2008 & losing to them by a mere 2 goals early season is a good effort
we had injured players out or playing injured in them last 11 games which makes it even better
too many are jumping the gun too early, its quite easy to be overcome by a huge event & Richmond has been the main focus of every club off season
from what l seen over summer it was Ben Cousins playing Chris Judd not Carlton playing Richmond
every paper & news report had focused on a person instead of a club & a group of players.  you cannot tell me players wouldnot be peeed off about that
if we are so far behind clubs & Hawthorn has recruited so much better than us ?  than why our last 2 games against them been so close 1 a peice
was Hawthorn overcome by playing the tigers in thier last game they crumbled like we did Thursday night against Carlton ??
so if Richmond can beat a far superior recruiting side as Hawthorn than we cant be that bad as everyone is making out
Our players have not blossomed yet & its easy to be a Franklin & Roughhead as they are feed the ball not the play makers who gut bust
its like being a defender you do the hard work but you be super special if you won the brownlow in that position
media talk is cheap trash & l think Richmond as a club & a group of players will overcome this bad setback
give them more credit than just one game the season is only just starting
Big clubs expected to play finals have lose 3 -5 games straight to come home firing in the last half of the season
Dont write off this playing group yet & dont forget there are others who are yet to play, we all might just get a suprise.
You dont get any lower than to get beat by a arch rival like Carlton. They now have something that will make them strive harder than ever before.
The supporters & the ex players & coaches will not let them forget last thursday evening & we should all get together & support this playing group even more because l firmly beleive this playing group has what it takes to make the finals this year.

support the club at this time when they need the supporters to beleive them, l'm sure they will come out firing & put on a much better display against Geelong & the Bulldogs

1 last thing l might point out is how many clubs go throughout the year winning every game & get beat in the Grand Final !! any team can be overcome by the hype


Support the club  :thumbsup l'm sure they will turn it around

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 01:08:17 PM »
Totally agree, should be good viewing on monday nights footy classified

Welcome back Jack  :thumbsup


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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »


we were predicted last year by many so called media personal to finish wooden spooners

HOW WRONG that we have recruited poorly,  not every player will make AFL but the minimum process is around 4 years to fully judge them at most clubs

we have the players to win games & we won games last year that we would throw away in other years gone by
we proved that winning 8 of the last 11 games last year, including beating the premiers of 2008 & losing to them by a mere 2 goals early season is a good effort
we had injured players out or playing injured in them last 11 games which makes it even better
too many are jumping the gun too early, its quite easy to be overcome by a huge event & Richmond has been the main focus of every club off season
from what l seen over summer it was Ben Cousins playing Chris Judd not Carlton playing Richmond
every paper & news report had focused on a person instead of a club & a group of players.  you cannot tell me players wouldnot be peeed off about that
if we are so far behind clubs & Hawthorn has recruited so much better than us ?  than why our last 2 games against them been so close 1 a peice
was Hawthorn overcome by playing the tigers in thier last game they crumbled like we did Thursday night against Carlton ??
so if Richmond can beat a far superior recruiting side as Hawthorn than we cant be that bad as everyone is making out
Our players have not blossomed yet & its easy to be a Franklin & Roughhead as they are feed the ball not the play makers who gut bust
its like being a defender you do the hard work but you be super special if you won the brownlow in that position
media talk is cheap trash & l think Richmond as a club & a group of players will overcome this bad setback
give them more credit than just one game the season is only just starting
Big clubs expected to play finals have lose 3 -5 games straight to come home firing in the last half of the season
Dont write off this playing group yet & dont forget there are others who are yet to play, we all might just get a suprise.
You dont get any lower than to get beat by a arch rival like Carlton. They now have something that will make them strive harder than ever before.
The supporters & the ex players & coaches will not let them forget last thursday evening & we should all get together & support this playing group even more because l firmly beleive this playing group has what it takes to make the finals this year.

support the club at this time when they need the supporters to beleive them, l'm sure they will come out firing & put on a much better display against Geelong & the Bulldogs

1 last thing l might point out is how many clubs go throughout the year winning every game & get beat in the Grand Final !! any team can be overcome by the hype


Support the club  :thumbsup l'm sure they will turn it around


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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2009, 07:03:01 PM »

The media hype surrounding Cousins did not sell-out the MCG; Cousins and his messy back story combined with his past brilliance and potential on-field clash with Chris Judd did that. His role in Richmond's failure was that of a cameo. Whatever the means, the end result of recruiting Cousins saw a notoriously weak club back its supposed improvement to state it could handle whatever sideshow Cousins came to represent.


I do question how much of a distraction the whole Cousins hype has been on other player's preparation.
Call those players mentally weak, soft or whatever but the circus surrounding his arrival certainly doesn't appear to have had a positive effect on the rest of the club.

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 07:20:46 PM »


we were predicted last year by many so called media personal to finish wooden spooners

HOW WRONG that we have recruited poorly,  not every player will make AFL but the minimum process is around 4 years to fully judge them at most clubs

we have the players to win games & we won games last year that we would throw away in other years gone by
we proved that winning 8 of the last 11 games last year, including beating the premiers of 2008 & losing to them by a mere 2 goals early season is a good effort
we had injured players out or playing injured in them last 11 games which makes it even better
too many are jumping the gun too early, its quite easy to be overcome by a huge event & Richmond has been the main focus of every club off season
from what l seen over summer it was Ben Cousins playing Chris Judd not Carlton playing Richmond
every paper & news report had focused on a person instead of a club & a group of players.  you cannot tell me players wouldnot be peeed off about that
if we are so far behind clubs & Hawthorn has recruited so much better than us ?  than why our last 2 games against them been so close 1 a peice
was Hawthorn overcome by playing the tigers in thier last game they crumbled like we did Thursday night against Carlton ??
so if Richmond can beat a far superior recruiting side as Hawthorn than we cant be that bad as everyone is making out
Our players have not blossomed yet & its easy to be a Franklin & Roughhead as they are feed the ball not the play makers who gut bust
its like being a defender you do the hard work but you be super special if you won the brownlow in that position
media talk is cheap trash & l think Richmond as a club & a group of players will overcome this bad setback
give them more credit than just one game the season is only just starting
Big clubs expected to play finals have lose 3 -5 games straight to come home firing in the last half of the season
Dont write off this playing group yet & dont forget there are others who are yet to play, we all might just get a suprise.
You dont get any lower than to get beat by a arch rival like Carlton. They now have something that will make them strive harder than ever before.
The supporters & the ex players & coaches will not let them forget last thursday evening & we should all get together & support this playing group even more because l firmly beleive this playing group has what it takes to make the finals this year.

support the club at this time when they need the supporters to beleive them, l'm sure they will come out firing & put on a much better display against Geelong & the Bulldogs

1 last thing l might point out is how many clubs go throughout the year winning every game & get beat in the Grand Final !! any team can be overcome by the hype


Support the club  :thumbsup l'm sure they will turn it around

That is very inspirational! :thumbsup :gotigers

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Re: Talking Tigers fail to walk the walk: Caro (Age)
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 07:21:25 PM »
RE: what Mr. Magic said.  Especially when they are filming inside the changerooms!  Could be a blessing in disguise with Cuz out of action for a while.