27 Years

[1980]

You can say what you want about Wallace, but this crap has been going on well before he took the gig.

Anyone that has had anything to do with the club either in an official or unofficial capacity since 1982 should be brutalised in the prison shower fashion, then lynched and chopped up into a million pieces.

Doesnt matter who we appoint as the next coach, these faceless pricks will continue to keep the club down

[Go Richo 12]

Terry is battling a culture problem! Good post, although brutalising in the shower?

[bushranger]

There is only one way Terry will be leaving and that is if he walks.
I don't think he will walk, but this is the only way the we will be without him in the next few rounds.
It is up to him now to prove to all of us, he is a coach, and get our team to do the job.

[Fishfinger]

I'd be surprised if all clubs didn't have pressure groups or undermining influences, 1980. It surely couldn't be just a Richmond phenomenon. Surely? 
I don't know the politics within the club and I don't understand why some supporters seem to think they should be able to force their will on the club. Maybe it's worse than at other clubs or maybe RFC just doesn't know how to accept and deal with it like other clubs seem to.

[1980]

I'd be surprised if all clubs didn't have pressure groups or undermining influences, 1980. It surely couldn't be just a Richmond phenomenon. Surely? 
I don't know the politics within the club and I don't understand why some supporters seem to think they should be able to force their will on the club. Maybe it's worse than at other clubs or maybe RFC just doesn't know how to accept and deal with it like other clubs seem to.

Here we are at the same place again. Another coach, another disappointment. We keep sacking coaches, and we keep ending up outside the finals.

Last time we gave a bad coach a fair go and it failed. This time we gave a recognised coach with a track record a fair go and its again ended up in tears.

There has to be a common underlying element outside of coaching appointments that has been constant since we last made it to a GF. And it needs to be removed. We cant keep blaming coaches for 3 decades of failure. It has to be recognised as a cultural disfunction at this club and dealt with.

[Fishfinger]

Yeah, I agree.
Good luck to anyone who can pinpoint and then fix it.


 

[gtig]

the fans haven't changed.
maybe we put too much pressure on the team?
we're still carrying $3m debt we haven't paid off...
what happens next few years when interest rates go up and half our fan base gives up for good?

might as well send wallace to the ressies and give rawlings a shot.
at least it would make things entertaining.

[TigerTime]

GOLD COAST TIGERS

HERE WE COME

[Stripes]

Yeah, I agree.
Good luck to anyone who can pinpoint and then fix it.

 

I think we can pinpoint it  - its our player leadership and the coaches that allow the culture to continue to be passed down and an accepted part of the club.

We don't play as a team, we accept failure as a playing group, we are selfish and make rash decisions based on self preservation.

Our leaders are individuals who play for themselves and do not do the 1%. Bowden and Richo have barely layed a tackle in the last 10 years and do not sacrafice their own game to elevate the team. Our coaches have been so fearful of being sacked that, until TW, no one has dared to even attempt to rebuild and now, in his last year, TW brought in Cousins/Hislop and Thomson in a vein attempt to stay off the headsman's axe like all the other coaches before him.

We need to get rid of our senior players, find leaders who play for the team and demand their teammates fight for each other as much as they do and stop accepting anything but excellence on the field and, more importantly, off it during training.

In one if I had to pinpoint the problem it is our leadership and the culture that is continuely passed down over the years of failure. We need to cut out the cancer and our coaches pinpoint leaders/rolemodels that demand hard, uncompromising, never-say-die team play.

This is our perpetual problem

Stripes

[bushranger]

So long as we don't go down the path like when the stupid supporters done the rally.
Lets hope that crap never turns up again.

And lets hope some of the players are feeling the pinch to and this might spur them on to a win.
All we can do is hope that it does spark something off in our favour, as we need it.

[FooffooValve]

Personally I believe that our problems lie in the fact that we still seem to believe that the coach is the solution to our problems.

In the Hafey glory days, the coach WAS the solution. You could basically recruit players from anywhere, so it wasn't so hard to purchase a good playing list, and basically all you needed was a good coach with a clear game plan, backed by a strong administration, to be successful.

Richmond people still believe in that philosophy: get the right coach and the rest will fall into place. Thus we operate with a flawed hierarchy to begin with (I wish I could draw a flow diagram to demonstrate what I mean).

IMO, the successful clubs have realised long ago that the coach alone is now not the most important factor in success. Don't get me wrong, you still need a good coach, but a good coach (like Terry Wallace) will not be successful just because he is a good coach. Put Mark Thompson, or whoever you'd like to pick, into our current organisational structure, and don't change it, and he'll fail.

You can talk about 'culture', or coachs, or players till you are blue in the face, but until we genuinely treat the coaching staff as equal (or lesser in some cases) in value to talent identification, recruitment, list management, player development, fitness and medical, then we'll continue to fail.

In short, our club still resembles a suburban football club in its organisational structure — or at least it did until about 2 years ago. More changes to be made, but I reckon we are only 12-18 months into the kind of change that was needed 15 years ago.