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Favourite son Wayne Campbell's meteoric rise
Jon Ralph | April 21, 2009

THIS time three years ago Wayne Campbell was a pub owner, former AFL player, and dog-walker in New York City.

It is no understatement to say his transition to heir apparent at Punt Rd has been a meteoric rise.

There is no doubt Campbell is the "contingency plan" president Gary March speaks of in case the club decides to dump Terry Wallace.

Now the question most Richmond supporters are asking is this: Is he a legitimate prospect as a caretaker coach, and would he take the job if asked?

Campbell's credentials as a Richmond player are well known: 297-game veteran, triple best-and-fairest winner, captain from 2001-04.

Campbell played 15 seasons for just two finals series. But as a prospective senior coach the details are a little more sketchy.

Talk to anyone with experience playing or coaching alongside Campbell, and they speak of a true student of the game with vast leadership potential.

The problem is that Campbell's coaching apprenticeship consists of one year as a part-time stoppages expert at the Western Bulldogs, a full season there as forward coach, and four games as an assistant at Richmond.

After standing down as captain for Kane Johnson in 2005 in the last year of his playing career, he married partner Sarah then spent a year travelling through the US and Europe.

While in Manhattan for three months, he spent his time walking up to six dogs at a time through Central Park.

Teammates would say that was a very Wayne Campbell thing to do.

Once he returned, he was immediately snapped up by the Bulldogs before being lured this year by the Tigers and former teammate Tony Free.

For Richmond football director Free, keen to lure back Tiger greats, it was the perfect fit.

But would taking on Richmond - even late this year - be the best move in Campbell's career?

Those close to him say Campbell would be crazy to take on a short-term caretaking role and believe he is not yet ready.

The plan was to come across and learn under Wallace, and even if the coach was replaced, continue to sponge off the new coach.

Wallace and Campbell have worked well together, but the former captain is aware he is a work in progress as a coach.

At just 36, failing to stem the bleeding at Richmond in a six-week patch might kill his senior aspirations.

Just ask Melbourne caretaker Mark Riley, or Hawks caretaker Donald McDonald, who filled in for Neale Daniher and Peter Schwab respectively.

Riley went 3-6 in nine games and McDonald 2-3 in five, but neither was again considered a serious coaching contender. Both are hugely respected football identities, but that is not the same as coaching your own side.

The flip side is the recent track record of caretaker coaches. Five of the last seven caretakers were subsequently appointed by their clubs.

Mark Harvey, Brett Ratten, Neil Craig, Paul Roos and Peter Rohde all won tenures from their clubs, Roos against all odds when Wallace seemingly had the Sydney job.

Wallace looks safe for this week at least, but both Richmond and Campbell face critical decisions as the coaching merry-go-round speeds up.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25362205-19742,00.html

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Richmond Tigers look to life after Terry Wallace era (Australian)
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 01:28:11 AM »
Richmond Tigers look to life after Terry Wallace era
Stephen Rielly and Greg Denham | April 21, 2009

RICHMOND will begin to consider a future without coach Terry Wallace tonight, with the board to meet in the knowledge that it is now a matter of when, rather than if, he is to finish up at Punt Road.

The Tigers are not expected to move on Wallace in the short term but should he, or they, have a change of heart and decide to make a move in the face of a continuing run of defeats, it is understood that assistant coach David King is likely to take over from him as caretaker.

Of Richmond's three full-time assistants, Brian Royal is the most senior but he is seen as a loyal lieutenant of Wallace's who is likely to depart at the season's end, and the other, Wayne Campbell, a former Richmond captain, is in only the second year of his apprenticeship. Campbell was at the Western Bulldogs part-time in 2007 before taking on a full-time position alongside Rodney Eade last year.

King joined Wallace at Punt Road only months after retiring as a player in 2004 and while he is viewed as an unlikely permanent successor to his embattled coach, he is seen to have more experience and knowledge of the list than Campbell, to do what is possible as a caretaker to prepare the team for 2010.

How many games, if any, he will have control of, though, remains at issue for the Richmond hierarchy, which has seen a season that began with talk of September only four weeks ago descend into near-chaos.

They will hear Wallace's explanation of what has gone so spectacularly wrong tonight. According to president Gary March, the coach has been asked to attend the scheduled board meeting to add detail to the usual monthly football department report presented by general manager of football operations, Craig Cameron.

Sunday's loss to Melbourne - the side's fourth in as many games - left only a mathematical possibility of Richmond playing finals. No team since the introduction of the final eight in 1994 has lost the first four games of a season and played finals.

Moreover, the Tigers have won only 35 of 92 games in Wallace's time and not played finals in any of his four completed seasons in charge. Wallace conceded before the season began that only a top-eight finish could have him coaching Richmond for a sixth season next year but he said on Sunday night that he will not resign.

The unexpected crisis on its hands has the Tiger board unprepared for an immediate change, although March said yesterday that a contingency plan was in place. This plan, he stressed, did not involve Kevin Sheedy, the legendary Essendon coach and Richmond player who is back at Punt Road, as an ambassador.

"Kevin Sheedy's not part of our contingency and never has been," March said.

"Kevin came back to the football club and he made it clear to me he didn't want to be involved in football and I made it clear to Kevin that we didn't have a role for him in football, so that's never been a part of the plan.

"As a club, you've got an obligation to have contingency plans in place. We've thought through those things (Wallace leaving mid-year) and we have got some plans in place."

Neither March nor Cameron would or could guarantee Wallace's tenure for the rest of the season yesterday. Tellingly, they are two members of the four-man sub-committee which will decide when it is that Wallace will make his exit. The other members of the sub-committee are football director Tony Free and chief executive Steven Wright.

The Tigers last replaced a coach during a season when Jeff Gieschen took over from Robert Walls midway through the 1997 campaign.

Wallace met with Cameron as part of the club's normal Monday game-review process and, later, the pair met in private.

"I met with the match committee and the coach," Cameron said. "Our immediate major concern is to get the guys up for Saturday's game against North Melbourne. They are a bit rattled, but at the same time, they need to ask themselves some questions."

Much of the criticism Richmond and Wallace have received in recent weeks has centred on the club's poor drafting and player development over the past five years. While it will not be enough to save Wallace his job, the Tigers have spent an extra $400,000 since last season on improving those areas.

The club has boosted recruiting and now has three full-time recruiting staff, while two full-time development coaches, Jade Rawlings and Craig McRae, are on staff, along with a full-time sports scientist.

Meanwhile, Ben Cousins, Trent Cotchin and Andrew Raines are all scheduled to return from injuries in the VFL this weekend for Coburg. Cameron said Cousins (hamstring) and Raines (knee) would most likely be considered for senior selection in round six, while Cotchin (Achilles) would probably need at least two to three weeks in the lower grade.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25362350-2722,00.html

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 09:01:37 AM »
Not too sure about a caretaker coach.  Surely a caretaker coach would be out to improve their own credentials and would be pushing the team to win matches.

If we are going to crash and burn we might as well do so with TW at the helm, of course even with finals gone to salvage some pride he may want wins as well. 

Oh well we're still mathematically in the hunt for finals so we should keep postivie until it is certain we wont make them.


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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 09:06:42 AM »
Jon Ralph  :whistle what a total wanker
if Cotchin, Cousins, & Coghlan came into the side all of our poor draft choices would lift a level
some of these writers dont dig deep enough when writing stories & get simple facts wrong
leave the office Ralph

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 09:14:28 AM »
Keep Wallace

Pros
  • We finish last/2nd last and get a top 3 draft pick

Cons
  • We finish last/2nd last and we lose a quarter of our members

Sack Wallace tonight

Pros
  • It's only 4 weeks in, we do have an easy draw, we're still a chance at the finals. A caretaker might give us a simple man on man gameplan, get the players enthused and we could turn things around

Cons
  • nil
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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 09:17:59 AM »
King you have got to be joking. Loose cannon who has failed to teach our players, that fighting spirit he displayed when he was at North.

Goodbye and regarding development coaches mcRae and Rawlings, whoever wrote that article needs to have a good look in the dictionary what that word actually means, because these 2 are doing a pathetic job at it.

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 10:34:34 AM »
Sack Wallace tonight

Cons
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None at all? I don't think so
How about a caretaker coach getting us 9-10 wins trying to prove himself which means we'll get crap draft picks?
How about the fact that it will damage our reputation yet again for not honoring contracts which in turn could limit our candidate options? We needed to offer 5 year deals to attract a decent candidate before, I don't want to have to go back to that.

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 11:04:27 AM »
How about the fact that it will damage our reputation yet again for not honoring contracts which in turn could limit our candidate options? We needed to offer 5 year deals to attract a decent candidate before, I don't want to have to go back to that.

To be fair, I think most people will reason that we have been very loyal. Honored Spud's 5 years, the last 3 of which were very testing. Have been patient with Wallace. We are well in the black on the loyalty front. 9.5 years, 1 finals appearance, two spoons. I'd actually hoping that the candidate would be too embarrassed to ask the loyalty question if that is what he aspires to.

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 11:24:02 AM »
Sack Wallace tonight

Cons
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How about a caretaker coach getting us 9-10 wins trying to prove himself which means we'll get crap draft picks?

That'll mean that the list isn't as bad as we thought.

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Re: Contingency plan? Herald-Sun says Cambo; Australian says David King
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 01:11:49 PM »
Goodbye and regarding development coaches mcRae and Rawlings, whoever wrote that article needs to have a good look in the dictionary what that word actually means, because these 2 are doing a pathetic job at it.

daniel - Rawlings has been in his development role since November 2008. Last season he was coaching Coburg (1st year & they made finals and are 2-0 so far this year) as well as being Richmond's forward line coach (I think there is room for an argument that he did a better job with the fwds than who is there now :P) before that he was an assistant coach only with the forwards.

So if you are going to say Campbell should be cut some slack as assistant because his only been in that job for 6 months, then there is an argument that the same should apply to Rawlings in his development coach's role

As for McCrae - he's been there I think 3 years now and within football he is considered very good in the role, is hedoing good job... how do we really tell? I only ask this because his job isn't just about developpment on the field his role has lot to do with off field as well

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