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Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« on: April 21, 2009, 01:52:41 AM »
Richmond must break endless cycle
Patrick Smith | April 21, 2009

SOMEBODY must save Richmond from itself. Rarely do we see close up and so vividly a club implode as catastrophically as the Tigers.

It appears the only man not losing his head is coach Terry Wallace and he is the one the club appears so determined to behead. It is so gruesome the AFL must be tempted to send in an emissary to ensure the club from any more self-mutilation.

The loss to Melbourne on Sunday proved the club was at its own throat. After the defeat, somebody in the media found general manager Craig Cameron, which is worth an award on its own. Until then, it was feared Cameron had locked himself in a locker.

Anyway, the football manager said that it was unfair to Wallace and his family to speculate on the coach's future. To support that, he said: "I'm pretty confident Terry Wallace will coach next week." The naivety of that comment is frightening. It invites all sorts of possibilities, none of which involve Wallace retaining the coaching position until the end of the season.

Worse still, the president Gary March said yesterday morning that the club had a contingency plan for several eventualities, including a Wallace resignation. Why? Because the club is trying to force him out? Because by their insipid support for the coach, the board members hope he might just walk away? Contingency plan is a euphemism for no support. Only pride is keeping Wallace in the position. It is not the goodwill of the club.

This awfulness did not suddenly descend on Richmond. It has been in the stirring since the middle of last season when it was clear the president and the coach had a poisoned relationship. That Wallace was able to lead his side to win eight of the final 11 games of the year probably wounded the Tiger administration rather than inspired the possibility of a new era. That's how it looks to outsiders.

As the deterioration in the rapport between Wallace and March became a regular topic in football, Richmond had the opportunity to renew the coach's contract beyond this year, the last in a five-year deal.

Given the meritorious end to the season, an extension of the contract seemed a sensible and stable move. That the club did not, and given the uneasiness of the coach-president relationship, the failure to sign up Wallace again meant the uproar that surrounds the club now was certain to happen.

If, off the back of eight wins in 11 matches, Wallace did not secure a vote of confidence from the president and the board then it meant they had no intention of extending his contract, short of a premiership. But it also meant that as soon as the season gave a hint of unravelling then the pressure from the media and public to act on Wallace would prove unbearable. And so we have Wallace, less than 24 hours before his side played Melbourne, having to answer questions about his future - or lack of it - at Richmond.

As Richmond collected one loss after another, no one - not Cameron, March or chief executive Steven Wright - publicly and purposefully supported Wallace's tenure until the end of his contract. Cameron disappeared into his locker, March lost his tongue and Wright's whereabouts is still concentrating the mind of the missing persons bureau. Finally drawn into the mess yesterday morning, March brought up the contingency plans should Wallace no longer be coach. If, indeed, there was a contingency plan, it shows the contempt the club has for the coach.

That Richmond is a dysfunctional club was evident in the recruiting of Ben Cousins. Official after official - Cameron, Wallace and March - lined up to say that Cousins was not in the Tigers' plans for this season. And then, at the death, they recruited him. Mainly after Kevin Sheedy took on Cousins's football rehabilitation as a personal cause. That Sheedy would not be there to pick up the pieces if the Cousins selection turned turkey was, apparently, not even contemplated. Such haphazard planning, such a lack of vision, explains why Richmond is in the mess in which it now finds itself.

Wallace is finished at Richmond. If the club is not done with him, for sure he will soon enough be done with it. That the players run about like school children in a wind storm is understandable because they are at a club where nothing is certain, leadership is non-existent. At the most brittle part of this season - just four rounds old - the club's management disappeared, unable to respond in a manner that would soothe nerves, silence critics, give everybody breathing space.

When Richmond moved on coach Danny Frawley in 2004, the club had a poor list. The round-four team that played Melbourne on Sunday had just three remaining survivors from the round-four team of 2004 - Nathan Brown, Joel Bowden and Chris Newman. Matthew Richardson missed the 2004 match with a hamstring injury and Greg Stafford was injured. From Sunday's line-up only Cousins, Trent Cotchin and Kane Johnson would be automatic selections had they been available.

Richmond's problem is that this year's version is no better than the team that ran around in 2004: Bowden, Brown, Wayne Campbell, Mark Chaffey, Mark Coughlan, Aaron Fiora, Darren Gaspar, Ray Hall, Brent Hartigan, Chris Hyde, Johnson, Andrew Kellaway, Andrew Krakouer, Ben Marsh, Shane Morrison, Newman, Brad Ottens, Kayne Pettifer, Tom Roach, Jay Schulz, Greg Tivendale and Ty Zantuck. The easy out in 2004 was to blame Frawley, the easy out this year is to do the same with Wallace. Stick with Leigh Matthews' formula that a successful coach is 80 per cent reliant on a talented list. Whoever has the best list is the best coach is the reckoning of the four-time premiership coach. It would also apply that whoever has the most limited list is the most hamstrung coach.

It is the administration of March that must take the responsibility for Richmond's place of ridicule and contempt. Numb one moment, panicked the next. When Wallace is finally gone, March will herald a new era, a reason for hope, of expectation. Let the good times roll. Just like Richmond did when it sacked Kevin Bartlett for Allan Jeans, who lasted one year then gave way to John Northey, replaced Northey with Robert Walls, sacked Walls for Jeff Gieschen, got rid of Gieschen for Frawley and moved Frawley on for Wallace.

And sacked Wallace for more of the same.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25362353-12270,00.html

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 09:09:47 AM »
if there weren't so many good coaching options around it would almost be worth giving spud 2 more years just to shove it up all these richmond bashers.
my new 2010 fantasy is chocco with assistants buckley and campbell.

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 09:46:13 AM »
Here we go....I think we should reappoint TW for another year right now.  :outtahere

Right now we should move Bowden, Brown, Richo and Simmonds into the 2nd, tell the rest of the team that their destiny is now in their hands. State it very clearly that the rest of their playing careers is now left up to their passion and belief in each other. Tell them that players who follow the team plan, shepherd, tackle, block and create opportunities for other team mates will be keep on the list at seasons end while players that play for themselves and individual glory will be traded away.

Tell them they need to lead themselves and those who demand success, work for each other and gain respect from their peers on the field from their actions should then become our new leaders.

It is time for the players to take the pressure and claim responsibility. The time for our coaches being the scape goat should be over and it is time to cut out the cancer that is our losing culture which is passed on from our 'leaders' to the rest of the playing group each year.

If you don't think this tack will work than look to last year when Bowden and Petts were dropped and the team was told that no player who did not apply defensive pressure would keep their places. What happened we were a new team and began winning from that point in the season on. Bowden came back with renewed enthusiasm too.

Regardless of who we have as a coach it is the playing group and in particular our better players who will be around the club for a long time thta need to change their focus and become team orientated. If this doesn't occur then, regardless of who is our coach, we are doomed to fail.  :help

Reinstating Wallace will turn the focus back on the playing group where it belongs. It would immediately shut up the media, opposition followers and our own impatient rabble of blood thursty, coach blaming, eat-our-own 'supporters'.

I don't think we can lay the blame completely on TW. In fact I can't say we can even lay 50% on the coach. I think if TW had of taken over the position now after 5 years of rebuilding he would have taken us to a GF within 3 years but as the card now sit another coach will claim the rewards for his hard work.

Perhaps 5 years is too long with a group. Perhaps the team has lost belief in his goals and game plan but if this is the case then that is the playing groups, and more specifically, the leaderships problem not simply TW.

We need strong leadership now to weather this storm and not allow outside sources to influence our decision. We need to hold true to one another and to our processes and give our coach and list a chance to turn the season around. We still have another 18 rounds to play, however remote it may be, we still have a chance...... :pray

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 10:12:03 AM »
Typical journalist crap.  Takes what is not siad and makes or what could of been said and makes a story out if it. I realy hate this sort of stuff.

Partick let me tell you something. A Contingency plan is not "a euphemism for no support" its good managemnet. If they didnt have a plan for if a coach goes or any of the major managemnet goes then they are not doing thier job problerly. The media is the only people saying the club is impolding, they are all making it up as I have seen nothing but "Terry is coach for the season" from anybody form within the club. How they say it and what they dont say dont mean poo. They have said from as long as I can remember that they will review the entire football department middle of this year.  No story here Partick, move along you $%^& witt.

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 01:02:27 PM »
Typical journalist crap.  Takes what is not siad and makes or what could of been said and makes a story out if it. I realy hate this sort of stuff.

Partick let me tell you something. A Contingency plan is not "a euphemism for no support" its good managemnet. If they didnt have a plan for if a coach goes or any of the major managemnet goes then they are not doing thier job problerly. The media is the only people saying the club is impolding, they are all making it up as I have seen nothing but "Terry is coach for the season" from anybody form within the club. How they say it and what they dont say dont mean poo. They have said from as long as I can remember that they will review the entire football department middle of this year.  No story here Partick, move along you $%^& witt.


Yep , half the problem with our club is we let the media set the board agenda, thats whats happening here, we have the media  trying to set the agenda and kill the club again. They want us to make a quick desicion instead of building for the future. Why don't they come out and say that TW will coach to the end of the year and when the times right (if a miricle happens this might not happen) and behind closed doors let  TW know that they won't renewing his contract, that way he can coach for the future and we all (including TW) can move on.

 The media hound Richmond because it works, the club seems to follow the direction of loadest noise instead of set long lerm goals.

 

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 01:26:50 PM »


 The media hound Richmond because it works, the club seems to follow the direction of loadest noise instead of set long lerm goals.

 

Well said Camboon! You're actually making some sense here...what's going on?! ;)

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 01:30:18 PM »
Here we go....I think we should reappoint TW for another year right now.  :outtahere


Hey stripes have you hacked into my inbox here at work?

I actually suggested the same thing to someone in an email this morning.

Wouldn't that just turn the footy world upside down in one almighty swoop  ;D and get the vultures away and just release the tension and pressure (actually it would like a king hit to be honest  ;D)

The media hound Richmond because it works, the club seems to follow the direction of loadest noise instead of set long lerm goals.


And we fall for it everytime sadly

Now just on Patrick's article. He has clearly got the big stick out for this one and although it pains and saddens me to admit it he actually makes some valid points amongst the hysteria

It appears the only man not losing his head is coach Terry Wallace and he is the one the club appears so determined to behead. It is so gruesome the AFL must be tempted to send in an emissary to ensure the club from any more self-mutilation.


Take out the last sentence but he is absolutely correct. Like him or loathe him TW has handled himslef very well through this whole thing. The Club at times has looked like it's jumping at shadows

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This awfulness did not suddenly descend on Richmond. It has been in the stirring since the middle of last season when it was clear the president and the coach had a poisoned relationship. That Wallace was able to lead his side to win eight of the final 11 games of the year probably wounded the Tiger administration rather than inspired the possibility of a new era. That's how it looks to outsiders.


Whether we like it or not that is how it is perceived rightly or wrongly

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As the deterioration in the rapport between Wallace and March became a regular topic in football, Richmond had the opportunity to renew the coach's contract beyond this year, the last in a five-year deal.

Given the meritorious end to the season, an extension of the contract seemed a sensible and stable move. That the club did not, and given the uneasiness of the coach-president relationship, the failure to sign up Wallace again meant the uproar that surrounds the club now was certain to happen.

Again take out Patrick's melodramatic description of the Coach/President relationship I reckon he is actually right

Do you honestly think if they had extended the contract for a further 12 months at the end of 2008 we'd be sitting here now with the circus we are witnessing ....

Now before everyone howls me down... the Club could have given an extension with a confidential clause that said "subject to finals in 2009" now this would have given everyone an out rather than this hit and miss sopa opera that's playing out

That our other problem nothing ever stays in house at the this bloody club... but that's a topic for another day  :'(
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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 02:27:23 PM »

Nothing wrong with this article. Smith has actually held back his usual contempt for usand offered up reasonable suggestions.

If we want to break with the past, we should stop making the same mistake.

And stick it up everyone in the media and the AFL. Reappoint wallace on a performance based contract for 2 years will tell everyone to go fk themselves. This is Richmond and we dont care what anyone thinks of us. Thats the mentality this club had when it was winning premierships.

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 05:55:39 PM »
Here we go....I think we should reappoint TW for another year right now.  :outtahere

Right now we should move Bowden, Brown, Richo and Simmonds into the 2nd, tell the rest of the team that their destiny is now in their hands. State it very clearly that the rest of their playing careers is now left up to their passion and belief in each other. Tell them that players who follow the team plan, shepherd, tackle, block and create opportunities for other team mates will be keep on the list at seasons end while players that play for themselves and individual glory will be traded away.

Tell them they need to lead themselves and those who demand success, work for each other and gain respect from their peers on the field from their actions should then become our new leaders.

It is time for the players to take the pressure and claim responsibility. The time for our coaches being the scape goat should be over and it is time to cut out the cancer that is our losing culture which is passed on from our 'leaders' to the rest of the playing group each year.

If you don't think this tack will work than look to last year when Bowden and Petts were dropped and the team was told that no player who did not apply defensive pressure would keep their places. What happened we were a new team and began winning from that point in the season on. Bowden came back with renewed enthusiasm too.

Regardless of who we have as a coach it is the playing group and in particular our better players who will be around the club for a long time thta need to change their focus and become team orientated. If this doesn't occur then, regardless of who is our coach, we are doomed to fail.  :help

Reinstating Wallace will turn the focus back on the playing group where it belongs. It would immediately shut up the media, opposition followers and our own impatient rabble of blood thursty, coach blaming, eat-our-own 'supporters'.

I don't think we can lay the blame completely on TW. In fact I can't say we can even lay 50% on the coach. I think if TW had of taken over the position now after 5 years of rebuilding he would have taken us to a GF within 3 years but as the card now sit another coach will claim the rewards for his hard work.

Perhaps 5 years is too long with a group. Perhaps the team has lost belief in his goals and game plan but if this is the case then that is the playing groups, and more specifically, the leaderships problem not simply TW.

We need strong leadership now to weather this storm and not allow outside sources to influence our decision. We need to hold true to one another and to our processes and give our coach and list a chance to turn the season around. We still have another 18 rounds to play, however remote it may be, we still have a chance...... :pray

Stripes



Oh Stripes, and i thought you were starting to come around!
Your mate Terry's days are numbered, and not because he gets no support BUT because he has done nothing remotely good for the footy club.
He was to 'pig headed' form day one to realise that to go up the ladder we must first go down. I think the word they use these days is 'rebuild'. Hawthorn did it and so did the Bulldogs.
His game plan, his poor recruiting, his trading for recycled players, his slow turn-over of our players have all contributed to where we are now, and that's nowhere.
I like your loyalty Stripes but the facts are the facts, 5 wasted years!
So no, lets not resign him!

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 06:01:38 PM »
its  amazing how supporters want more punishment
He cant coach .

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 06:18:24 PM »
its  amazing how supporters want more punishment
He cant coach .

I dont believe that to be the reality Jacko- my opinion is that he will lose his job because he didnt sack enough players in his first 2 years- or atleast not the right ones. He also failed to do what he should have in 2005 and 2006 and thats tank. He seems confused now as to which direction he had to go and thats reflected 1) by the lack of talented players at his disposal - and the lack of game plan and 2) his own PR Spin - Its these 2 things that have killed his coaching career primarily but others may disagree.

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 07:35:22 PM »
its  amazing how supporters want more punishment
He cant coach .

I dont believe that to be the reality Jacko- my opinion is that he will lose his job because he didnt sack enough players in his first 2 years- or atleast not the right ones. He also failed to do what he should have in 2005 and 2006 and thats tank. He seems confused now as to which direction he had to go and thats reflected 1) by the lack of talented players at his disposal - and the lack of game plan and 2) his own PR Spin - Its these 2 things that have killed his coaching career primarily but others may disagree.

he should be held accountable for what he did in his first 2 years in the job particulary at the draft table.

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 07:41:10 PM »
its  amazing how supporters want more punishment
He cant coach .

it would be worth it just to see your reaction to be honest  ;D :rollin

Actually I reckon I can throw in daniel as well  :thumbsup
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 08:13:40 PM »
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And stick it up everyone in the media and the AFL. Reappoint wallace on a performance based contract for 2 years will tell everyone to go fk themselves. This is Richmond and we dont care what anyone thinks of us. Thats the mentality this club had when it was winning premierships.

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Re: Richmond must break endless cycle: Patrick Smith
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 08:52:58 PM »
its  amazing how supporters want more punishment
He cant coach .

I dont believe that to be the reality Jacko- my opinion is that he will lose his job because he didnt sack enough players in his first 2 years- or atleast not the right ones. He also failed to do what he should have in 2005 and 2006 and thats tank. He seems confused now as to which direction he had to go and thats reflected 1) by the lack of talented players at his disposal - and the lack of game plan and 2) his own PR Spin - Its these 2 things that have killed his coaching career primarily but others may disagree.

he should be held accountable for what he did in his first 2 years in the job particulary at the draft table.

Finishing just outside the 8 has cost us dearly it seems - and ultimately himself dearly - hope we learn in the future  that you cant be half pregnant or half rebuilding