Angus Graham [merged]

[one-eyed]

Walls on 3aw believes Gus has a future. Caro laughed.
David King said Wayne Campbell rates Gus.

Thoughts on Gus?

[Infamy]

Stop gap

However I'd rather we keep playing Gus while Vickery & Browne develop than play Simmonds and trade away our picks for a recycled ruckman.

[WA Tiger]

Think he is doing a lot better the last 2 weeks than he has his career, one more year next year and we if he can't come on then IMO he never will.

[bojangles17]

I reckon there's a few boofheads that couldn't find a hole big enough seeing they wanted to make a BIG name for themselves in slating him after a dozen games and like Caro would know

[tony_montana]

for the first time I saw something in Gus, took a couple of strong marks and for someone with his rep, I was very happy at how hard he hit the contest. This is why I wanted to play him over simmo who is now useless

[Hellenic Tiger]

Exactly TM would rather see Gus lumber around than Simmonds who can't even muster himself to do anything that closely resembles lumbering around the ground. Right now Graham has more around the ground skill too.

Next week is another test Dean Brogan.

[WilliamPowell]

Was very pleased with Gus last week and wanted another game like that.

Compared to Vickery he was good but I also saw some of the bads habits from last year on show last night

A really good example is his unwillingness to drop back into the goal square when the opposition is having a set shot 45-50 metres out. Twice last night Gus just stood around the centre square with hands on hips 

[the claw]

hmm all this applause and for what. he was mediocre again and we were destroyed by both their ruckmen.

he doesnt have the tools to get better what you see is what you get. he is not the way forward.
yep hes given more than simmonds but we all agree hes not the way forward either. we have to be looking to do better than the grahams and a myriad of other glass half fulls like him.

[Tigeritis™©®]

hmm all this applause and for what. he was mediocre again and we were destroyed by both their ruckmen.

he doesnt have the tools to get better what you see is what you get. he is not the way forward.
yep hes given more than simmonds but we all agree hes not the way forward either. we have to be looking to do better than the grahams and a myriad of other glass half fulls like him.

not much to get excited about so we get excited with mediocrity.
Let's hope Browne can eventually develop 

....or we do trade Tambling for a ready to go ruckman?

[the claw]

Stop gap

However I'd rather we keep playing Gus while Vickery & Browne develop than play Simmonds and trade away our picks for a recycled ruckman.

i think we will should take a mature ruckman regardless of weather graham is or isnt at the club next yr.

the reasons are simple. 1 while hes been an improvement on simmonds hes shown nothing to suggest hes a decent player. 2 clearly browne and vickery are a couple of seasons away with absolutely no guarantee either will make it.
3 with just 3 ruckmen on the list we are two short we have two in development  and atm the mature one is below standard we need another ready to go ruckman even for something as simple as backup if injury hits.

i have already written graham of so to me all our eggs are in the browne vickery basket another mature ruckman and a rookie is just plain old good list management  covering your behind.

ive already written graham of

[the claw]

hmm all this applause and for what. he was mediocre again and we were destroyed by both their ruckmen.

he doesnt have the tools to get better what you see is what you get. he is not the way forward.
yep hes given more than simmonds but we all agree hes not the way forward either. we have to be looking to do better than the grahams and a myriad of other glass half fulls like him.

not much to get excited about so we get excited with mediocrity.
Let's hope Browne can eventually develop 

....or we do trade Tambling for a ready to go ruckman?

yep its amazing we are so poor in an area for so long as soon as something else comes along regardless its raptures by all.

[jackstar is back again]

Was very pleased with Gus last week and wanted another game like that.

Compared to Vickery he was good but I also saw some of the bads habits from last year on show last night

A really good example is his unwillingness to drop back into the goal square when the opposition is having a set shot 45-50 metres out. Twice last night Gus just stood around the centre square with hands on hips 

Totally agree

[Infamy]

Stop gap

However I'd rather we keep playing Gus while Vickery & Browne develop than play Simmonds and trade away our picks for a recycled ruckman.

i think we will should take a mature ruckman regardless of weather graham is or isnt at the club next yr.

the reasons are simple. 1 while hes been an improvement on simmonds hes shown nothing to suggest hes a decent player. 2 clearly browne and vickery are a couple of seasons away with absolutely no guarantee either will make it.
3 with just 3 ruckmen on the list we are two short we have two in development  and atm the mature one is below standard we need another ready to go ruckman even for something as simple as backup if injury hits.

i have already written graham of so to me all our eggs are in the browne vickery basket another mature ruckman and a rookie is just plain old good list management  covering your behind.

ive already written graham of

I'd be happy to look at using a late pick on a VFL ruckman or someone who's been delisted for depth, but that's all. Trading for a decent ruckman costs too much in terms of picks.

[Gigantor]

something browne has in his armory that both graham and vickery dont is his ability to hit a contest hard...the latter seem very timid to me

[Owl]

Simmo was a bloody good footballer in his day it is just that he is ready for retirement.  His body has taken a beating over the years and has had enough I would say.  He is still cunning though, he still does some of those clever, deft things that the others don't think of in the tight plays.  What is the hold up with Browne?  His tank?  He was the best performer out of the three new ones to date wasn't he?