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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2009, 07:48:17 PM »
its not a dumb thread, i expect more from deledio, as should the rfc, he is better than this but he is a sissy sook and cant shake a tag nor bust his pooper when we havent got the ball.

after a game guys like tuck etc are absolutely spent , they give it their all, deledio dosnt. fullstop. he thinks just cos he was the skills he can coast through! we must demand more from him because he can do more but he dosnt

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2009, 08:28:17 PM »
its not a dumb thread, i expect more from deledio, as should the rfc, he is better than this but he is a sissy sook and cant shake a tag nor bust his pooper when we havent got the ball.

after a game guys like tuck etc are absolutely spent , they give it their all, deledio dosnt. fullstop. he thinks just cos he was the skills he can coast through! we must demand more from him because he can do more but he dosnt

You are the sissy sook, read the dribble you write. You are taking up valuable oxygen.
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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2009, 08:29:13 PM »
back at you

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2009, 10:25:11 PM »
so what the coaching staff has nothing to do with the decision to play injured players.

Simmo last week Richo this week. Cuz first round coming back on.

Daniel with all due respect... the coaches aren't Doctors, the final OK comes from the medical people and they are the ones that are predominantly at fault although Richo can shoulder some blame by saying he was right...

The medicos cleared Richo to play so let's give them the kick up the clacker they so rightly deserve.. If want give some out marching orders the head Doctor would be one I'd certainly be having a look at

And just back on the topic for a moment... I thought Lid's 2nd half was great, got us back in the game, his first half when heavily tagged was poor but he wasn't alone there

the mid-fielder that I think is a bigger concern is Nathan Foley; he is really struggling
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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2009, 09:41:48 AM »
wp.
judd ablett etc etc get heavier tags than deledio. the first half is very important, even more than the second half, and every game this year bar 1, deledio has been missing in the first half. really if a coach is real honest about his performance, something should be done about it. the only way to beat a tagger is to work harder than them.....no excuses, every player is supposed to have a direct opponent, deledio should not be treated special.

about foley, he is now being exposed as to why no one but us chose him, i have spoken to an ex coach of his from the falcons, he informed me that foley has all the desire and drive but his foot and hand skills let him down far too many times. he really is a liability and is playing for the opposition team each week.

if he stays in th eteam it must be just to keep his profile and currency up for trade , maybe the gold coast will be interested, otherwise he must be dropped

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2009, 10:09:03 AM »
Wouldn't blame Deledio, I'd blame Richo for playing when he's unfit.
Wallace would have left the decision for him to say if he was okay, and clearly he wasn't.
You let the team down Richo by being selfish
Anyone who's not fit shouldn't be playing  :banghead


thats not richos fault, he was still very important 4 us today , just as usual he misses the important goals

deledio was shocking bar 20 minutes
he newman white and morton should be dropped, but they wont, i bet jon will even though his efforts kept us in the game early


we are our worst enemy, and deledio has got the winning edge or desire


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Are you on drugs?

For one anyone who has played a team sport at any level knows that if you are unfit and can't put in 95% plus of a performance you NEVER put your hand up to play. EVER. This is sacred and unfortunately is letting your team down. Whether this happened or not who knows.

You think we should drop Newman, White, Morton and Deledio.

What a load of dishwater.

Be careful not hurt yourself as you jump off the bandwagon.

Playing interstate you have to start well. We didn't but credit to the boys they didn't fall into a heap like they did against Carlton and W.B. Stuck at it and took the game on. Wallace tried things throwing Graham forward etc. so kudos to Terry. Our forward line is really missing a reliable kick for goal that is lightning off a lead.

Bring on Brisbane.
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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 12:00:21 PM »
Be careful not hurt yourself as you jump off the bandwagon.

Playing interstate you have to start well. We didn't but credit to the boys they didn't fall into a heap like they did against Carlton and W.B. Stuck at it and took the game on. Wallace tried things throwing Graham forward etc. so kudos to Terry. Our forward line is really missing a reliable kick for goal that is lightning off a lead.

Bring on Brisbane.

Couldnt have said that better  :clapping

If the boys can play with that intensity here on in and a forward or two stand up we will start to see the results going our way

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2009, 12:57:15 PM »
i never jump off the tigers ! get that straight

1/ newman is only in th eteam cos he is captain, his form or lack of it means he should be dropped.fact
2/ foley has shown sweet fa and should be dropped f. fact
3/ morton , see foley, not doing enough, should be dropped
4/ deledio must be told that he is on notice , work harder or we will embarrass you and play you at coburg, he cannot continue to turn up after half time and make up his stat numbers

no one should be untouchable, look how the saints have improved, since lyon made a statement and dropped dal santo. deledio must look at dal santo to learn how hard work pays off, and being dropped can be the best thing to ever happen to a player who is born with so much talent but not enouch ticker

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2009, 01:13:28 PM »
i never jump off the tigers ! get that straight

I dont encourage loyalty switching but for you I make an exception, try it it might improve your state of mind, I suggest the Cats or you seem keen on the Ainters.

1/ newman is only in th eteam cos he is captain, his form or lack of it means he should be dropped.fact
2/ foley has shown sweet fa and should be dropped f. fact
3/ morton , see foley, not doing enough, should be dropped
4/ deledio must be told that he is on notice , work harder or we will embarrass you and play you at coburg, he cannot continue to turn up after half time and make up his stat numbers

And replace with who, lesser players that will be bagged the crap out of even more, no thanks I cant go through listening to the bellyaching.

no one should be untouchable, look how the saints have improved, since lyon made a statement and dropped dal santo.

Before you start comparing sides to the Ainters you might just want to wait until they actually make an impact in a final series first.

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2009, 01:19:31 PM »
wp.
judd ablett etc etc get heavier tags than deledio. the first half is very important, even more than the second half, and every game this year bar 1, deledio has been missing in the first half. really if a coach is real honest about his performance, something should be done about it. the only way to beat a tagger is to work harder than them.....no excuses, every player is supposed to have a direct opponent, deledio should not be treated special.

Question were you at the game, reason I ask is as I have said many times things always look way different on TV compared to being at the ground. I thought Lids copped a heavy tag (got illegally scragged a few times but the umps as per normal did nothing) and in the first half he was poor but to his credit in the 2nd he did exactly what you said and worked his backside off and got himself and the Tiges back in the game.


You think we should drop Newman, White, Morton and Deledio.

Just on Newman....

Everyone here knows I am not a great Newman fan but I have to say I was very disappointed with one particular thing in the 3rd qtr he did yesterday that IMHO gifted the Swans a goal that gave them the 4 goal buffer back. I blew my stack at the game (bg25 can confirm this ;D) and I said at the time for a leader it was terrible.

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2009, 01:53:49 PM »
wp. i was not atthis game, first game i have missed interstate in 4 years, but it was clear as day light even on tv that deledio did not work hard enough

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Before you start comparing sides to the Ainters you might just want to wait until they actually make an impact in a final series first.
yep,like we have been finals contenders year in year out

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And replace with who, lesser players that will be bagged the crap out of even more, no thanks I cant go through listening to the bellyaching.

\you replace them with playing guys who give 100% every game , every contest. one cannot be too upset if you lose a game knowing every 22 players gave their all,
its when we lose games like yesterday , when not all 22 players give their all that gets tiger fans upset, we just wanna see 22 guys have a dip

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2009, 02:24:34 PM »
\you replace them with playing guys who give 100% every game , every contest. one cannot be too upset if you lose a game knowing every 22 players gave their all,

Oh Ok players like Foley who bust their guts day in day out, but hang on dont you then bag them for poor disposal.

Anyway getting past the contradictions, so your criteria for replacement is

- 100% effective disposal skills
- busts a gut each and every week
- elite class skill level
- tackling and defensive pressure dynamo's

Ok then well lets call up those four or so Gary Abletts playing for Coburg.

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2009, 02:27:10 PM »
missed the point totally but can tell you now, cuz cotch and edwards are all better options than foley

but sticking to the topic, are you really happy with deledios output and workrate this year, or do u believe he can do more?

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2009, 02:59:42 PM »
its hard been the only class player in the team, he needs help.
its not as if Ablett does it all himself.

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Re: only if deledio had a harder work rate ethic
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2009, 03:41:27 PM »
i never jump off the tigers ! get that straight

1/ newman is only in th eteam cos he is captain, his form or lack of it means he should be dropped.fact
2/ foley has shown sweet fa and should be dropped f. fact
3/ morton , see foley, not doing enough, should be dropped
4/ deledio must be told that he is on notice , work harder or we will embarrass you and play you at coburg, he cannot continue to turn up after half time and make up his stat numbers

no one should be untouchable, look how the saints have improved, since lyon made a statement and dropped dal santo. deledio must look at dal santo to learn how hard work pays off, and being dropped can be the best thing to ever happen to a player who is born with so much talent but not enouch ticker

That post is laughable.

Newman is possibly the best long kick in teh team. Something that is a must have in the modern game. Horrible horrible call. Let him grow into the leadership, he's not a Chris Judd or Gary Ablett. Let him mature into the role. He also needs some help from the leadership group from Foley, Lids and Moore.

Drop Foley.. each player has a worth. Foley's in and under work is irreplaceable from the current RFC list. Who from Coburg can take his spot? Caruso? Just doesn't work.

Morton. Lets not ring the alarm bells, the guy has started the season well and would be in our top 3-4 in best in fairest before this round. Let him know he didn't have a great game and let him respond.

Deledio dropping him to Coburg wont fix any issues you have with him. Pointless.

TigerTime have you ever been involved in a football club at any local level?
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