Please, Terry, just go!

[big tone]

I actually think Terry should go now
Only because we can't make the finals on that form and that his own plans have dug his own grave.
This year was always going to be our worst year, the fifth year, with the older players at their oldest and with such a young group coming through rudderless without leadership.
They are a rabble out there.  No leadership and the circle work is driving me insane
They look skinny and like little boys against men
I think some of the players should hang their heads as well
I'm sorry that it didn't work because the club really needed to show it had matured a bit and could stand by someone.
I don't think it's all Terry's fault.
As one person said on another thread one player hadn't even seen a development coach until his third year.  That's a blight on the whole club 

My fears aren't with letting Terry go, my fears are that we appoint the right person for a long term sustainable future, the same vision that Terry had.  Not just for the here and now but for sustainable success.  We have to have a coach with the same balls as Terry, to not go down that quick fix path, but he has to have the support of the whole club, who will demand respect and get it.  The only person is Matthews in my book.  I can't see anyone else who could get that. 

I just pray the club picks the right person 

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish. I know these names have been brought up before but it is totally clear to me that TW was looking after himself when drafting/trading these players-

Troy Simmons- been good for us but was drafted for the there and then not the future. We would be in better shape now in the ruck stocks if we had of drafted a good young kid in stead.
Mark Graham- 30 odd year old for the there and then. (Disgracful selection)
Trent Knoble- another discard with the thought of instant output.

Now thats just in his first few months at the club. Sure he drafted some kids as well but when rebuilding you draft ALL kids not top-up players.

Patrick Bowden- picked to play asap. Had a good year but blind Fredy could see he was not drafted to be in our next premiership.
Jeremy Humm- discard from West Coast.

Graham Polak- played some good games for us but was traded for an early draft pick and possibly a good kid who could have been playing yesterday.
Kent Kinsley- Total disgrace of a pick. You can not tell me this was for the future of the club.

Jordan McMahon- again traded for an early draft pick for a quick fix. Weak, skinny and overated. Horrible selection and cannot even cement his spot in our very ordinary side.
Mitch Morton- another discard that has been ok BUT was dropped for yesterdays game and is a selfish player and who knows what will come of him. Quick fix in TW thoughts again.
Tristian Cartledge- Bomber discard that Terry thought he could make something of. Fail!

Adam Thomson- another mid draft selection traded away for another discard. (Cocko does not give away good players that easily) Cannot even get a game in a side with one win on the board, time will tell but am not holding my breath.
Tom Hislop- another Bomber discard that has shown not a great deal. Still early days but will bet he will be a waste of a draft pick.

Now if i have missed anybody i apoligise, but i think this clearly shows that TW had other things on his mind other than a rebuild. To say he has had "balls" is an utter joke and it only shows that he has "balls things up"

I also hope like you that the next coach has the RFC sustainable future in mind and sticks to it after they get appointed! It is pretty easy to say it but even harder to stick to it. I also hope the next coach has a game plan that lets us as supporters enjoy the game even if we get beat, a game plan that is exciting with run and carry and long kicking and goal scoring and none of this kicking sideways CRAP!!!

[Tigermonk]

I actually think Terry should go now
Only because we can't make the finals on that form and that his own plans have dug his own grave.
This year was always going to be our worst year, the fifth year, with the older players at their oldest and with such a young group coming through rudderless without leadership.
They are a rabble out there.  No leadership and the circle work is driving me insane
They look skinny and like little boys against men
I think some of the players should hang their heads as well
I'm sorry that it didn't work because the club really needed to show it had matured a bit and could stand by someone.
I don't think it's all Terry's fault.
As one person said on another thread one player hadn't even seen a development coach until his third year.  That's a blight on the whole club 

My fears aren't with letting Terry go, my fears are that we appoint the right person for a long term sustainable future, the same vision that Terry had.  Not just for the here and now but for sustainable success.  We have to have a coach with the same balls as Terry, to not go down that quick fix path, but he has to have the support of the whole club, who will demand respect and get it.  The only person is Matthews in my book.  I can't see anyone else who could get that. 

I just pray the club picks the right person 

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish. I know these names have been brought up before but it is totally clear to me that TW was looking after himself when drafting/trading these players-

Troy Simmons- been good for us but was drafted for the there and then not the future. We would be in better shape now in the ruck stocks if we had of drafted a good young kid in stead.
Mark Graham- 30 odd year old for the there and then. (Disgracful selection)
Trent Knoble- another discard with the thought of instant output.

Now thats just in his first few months at the club. Sure he drafted some kids as well but when rebuilding you draft ALL kids not top-up players.

Patrick Bowden- picked to play asap. Had a good year but blind Fredy could see he was not drafted to be in our next premiership.
Jeremy Humm- discard from West Coast.

Graham Polak- played some good games for us but was traded for an early draft pick and possibly a good kid who could have been playing yesterday.
Kent Kinsley- Total disgrace of a pick. You can not tell me this was for the future of the club.

Jordan McMahon- again traded for an early draft pick for a quick fix. Weak, skinny and overated. Horrible selection and cannot even cement his spot in our very ordinary side.
Mitch Morton- another discard that has been ok BUT was dropped for yesterdays game and is a selfish player and who knows what will come of him. Quick fix in TW thoughts again.
Tristian Cartledge- Bomber discard that Terry thought he could make something of. Fail!

Adam Thomson- another mid draft selection traded away for another discard. (Cocko does not give away good players that easily) Cannot even get a game in a side with one win on the board, time will tell but am not holding my breath.
Tom Hislop- another Bomber discard that has shown not a great deal. Still early days but will bet he will be a waste of a draft pick.

Now if i have missed anybody i apoligise, but i think this clearly shows that TW had other things on his mind other than a rebuild. To say he has had "balls" is an utter joke and it only shows that he has "balls things up"

I also hope like you that the next coach has the RFC sustainable future in mind and sticks to it after they get appointed! It is pretty easy to say it but even harder to stick to it. I also hope the next coach has a game plan that lets us as supporters enjoy the game even if we get beat, a game plan that is exciting with run and carry and long kicking and goal scoring and none of this kicking sideways CRAP!!!

excellent post.  we drafted poo again & l'm having more nightmares for years to come

[Moi]

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish.

What's with everyone being civil business, never stopped none of you before from saying what you thought 

He may have topped up with a few, but his primary aim was to turn over the list with a new group of kids coming through. He achieved that, but were they the right kids.  Have they been given every opportunity to develop?  They're the questions that should be asked, but everyone wants to pigeonhole one bloke and not look at the bigger picture.

Recruiting
Development
Coaching
Administration
Mentoring

I'm sure there's more than just Terry Wallace.
I agree with everyone who says he should go.  It hasn't worked, but stop this crap about him recruiting Bowden and McMahon and look at other things.  Not only is it boring, you're missing the greater picture and what we really need to do.  You don't like it, don't just sit there and bag unmercifully or bring up the same garbage every time, offer some suggestions about how we can do things better would be a better way to go methinks.

Now the players coming through, if all of them played like Alex Rance did yesterday, head over the ball and going hard, take no prisoners, we will be a better club 

[Jackstar is back]

I actually think Terry should go now
Only because we can't make the finals on that form and that his own plans have dug his own grave.
This year was always going to be our worst year, the fifth year, with the older players at their oldest and with such a young group coming through rudderless without leadership.
They are a rabble out there.  No leadership and the circle work is driving me insane
They look skinny and like little boys against men
I think some of the players should hang their heads as well
I'm sorry that it didn't work because the club really needed to show it had matured a bit and could stand by someone.
I don't think it's all Terry's fault.
As one person said on another thread one player hadn't even seen a development coach until his third year.  That's a blight on the whole club 

My fears aren't with letting Terry go, my fears are that we appoint the right person for a long term sustainable future, the same vision that Terry had.  Not just for the here and now but for sustainable success.  We have to have a coach with the same balls as Terry, to not go down that quick fix path, but he has to have the support of the whole club, who will demand respect and get it.  The only person is Matthews in my book.  I can't see anyone else who could get that. 

I just pray the club picks the right person 

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish. I know these names have been brought up before but it is totally clear to me that TW was looking after himself when drafting/trading these players-

Troy Simmons- been good for us but was drafted for the there and then not the future. We would be in better shape now in the ruck stocks if we had of drafted a good young kid in stead.
Mark Graham- 30 odd year old for the there and then. (Disgracful selection)
Trent Knoble- another discard with the thought of instant output.

Now thats just in his first few months at the club. Sure he drafted some kids as well but when rebuilding you draft ALL kids not top-up players.

Patrick Bowden- picked to play asap. Had a good year but blind Fredy could see he was not drafted to be in our next premiership.
Jeremy Humm- discard from West Coast.

Graham Polak- played some good games for us but was traded for an early draft pick and possibly a good kid who could have been playing yesterday.
Kent Kinsley- Total disgrace of a pick. You can not tell me this was for the future of the club.

Jordan McMahon- again traded for an early draft pick for a quick fix. Weak, skinny and overated. Horrible selection and cannot even cement his spot in our very ordinary side.
Mitch Morton- another discard that has been ok BUT was dropped for yesterdays game and is a selfish player and who knows what will come of him. Quick fix in TW thoughts again.
Tristian Cartledge- Bomber discard that Terry thought he could make something of. Fail!

Adam Thomson- another mid draft selection traded away for another discard. (Cocko does not give away good players that easily) Cannot even get a game in a side with one win on the board, time will tell but am not holding my breath.
Tom Hislop- another Bomber discard that has shown not a great deal. Still early days but will bet he will be a waste of a draft pick.

Now if i have missed anybody i apoligise, but i think this clearly shows that TW had other things on his mind other than a rebuild. To say he has had "balls" is an utter joke and it only shows that he has "balls things up"

I also hope like you that the next coach has the RFC sustainable future in mind and sticks to it after they get appointed! It is pretty easy to say it but even harder to stick to it. I also hope the next coach has a game plan that lets us as supporters enjoy the game even if we get beat, a game plan that is exciting with run and carry and long kicking and goal scoring and none of this kicking sideways CRAP!!!

Big Tone.
Great post.
And then add the ratshit game plan of 10 metres sideways backwards kicks.
Tell you this, coaches can ruin players, as this is the case as Punt Road. Foley running around in circles yesterday WTF.
Terry must go now.
Why ?
As players such as Nahas who actually ran straight through the corridor and kicked long to the top of the square will catch the current "" cancer "" that the other players have.
Had enough of Reiedwoldt too, OVERATED.
I never want to see Schulz and JON EVER again.
Better off playing players such as Putt etc. and giving guys there first game, give everyone on the list a game and see what we have
Look at Matty Knights people

[Tigermonk]

Now remember jack we were rubbished about Matty Knights
They played excellent football friday night.
He learnt dont play injured players

[Francois Jackson]

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish.

What's with everyone being civil business, never stopped none of you before from saying what you thought 

He may have topped up with a few, but his primary aim was to turn over the list with a new group of kids coming through. He achieved that, but were they the right kids.  Have they been given every opportunity to develop?  They're the questions that should be asked, but everyone wants to pigeonhole one bloke and not look at the bigger picture.

Recruiting
Development
Coaching
Administration
Mentoring

I'm sure there's more than just Terry Wallace.
I agree with everyone who says he should go.  It hasn't worked, but stop this crap about him recruiting Bowden and McMahon and look at other things.  Not only is it boring, you're missing the greater picture and what we really need to do.  You don't like it, don't just sit there and bag unmercifully or bring up the same garbage every time, offer some suggestions about how we can do things better would be a better way to go methinks.

Now the players coming through, if all of them played like Alex Rance did yesterday, head over the ball and going hard, take no prisoners, we will be a better club 

What we can do is HOLD ON TO OUR stuffin PICKS FFS.

its not rocket science is it???

Put our players under 60kgs through the gym and if they cant put on weight then off you go. Sick to death of seeing David Bourke lookalikes running in circles.

Another thing no more articles about how we are flying, how training the house down Tambling is flying, no more about how good the young kids are playing. NO MORE. JUST PLAY FOOTY FFS.

This game plan though is the worst i have seen since the 80's. Its all Wallrt and his mates who are steering the players to play this sidewats rubbish.

Its not March's game plan its Wallace.

What amazes me is how you did not see this coming from a years back MOI. We still cant beat top 8 sides. FACT.

Last year everyone was pumped because we beat Hawks but there was a reason we could beat no one else and thats because this list aint good enough.

That win against them turned out to be a farce because guess who won the flag, THEY DID.

This list is worse than when he took over. Worst because he has more young players in there that CANT play. The young players are VFL players at best.

He held onto rejects and recruited more top ups. Now if thats rebuilding then your kidding yourself.

[big tone]

I actually think Terry should go now
Only because we can't make the finals on that form and that his own plans have dug his own grave.
This year was always going to be our worst year, the fifth year, with the older players at their oldest and with such a young group coming through rudderless without leadership.
They are a rabble out there.  No leadership and the circle work is driving me insane
They look skinny and like little boys against men
I think some of the players should hang their heads as well
I'm sorry that it didn't work because the club really needed to show it had matured a bit and could stand by someone.
I don't think it's all Terry's fault.
As one person said on another thread one player hadn't even seen a development coach until his third year.  That's a blight on the whole club 

My fears aren't with letting Terry go, my fears are that we appoint the right person for a long term sustainable future, the same vision that Terry had.  Not just for the here and now but for sustainable success.  We have to have a coach with the same balls as Terry, to not go down that quick fix path, but he has to have the support of the whole club, who will demand respect and get it.  The only person is Matthews in my book.  I can't see anyone else who could get that. 

I just pray the club picks the right person 

Hi Moi, i will try and keep this civil too, but what you say about getting the right person like TW who puts the club in front of his own success is rubbish. I know these names have been brought up before but it is totally clear to me that TW was looking after himself when drafting/trading these players-

Troy Simmons- been good for us but was drafted for the there and then not the future. We would be in better shape now in the ruck stocks if we had of drafted a good young kid in stead.
Mark Graham- 30 odd year old for the there and then. (Disgracful selection)
Trent Knoble- another discard with the thought of instant output.

Now thats just in his first few months at the club. Sure he drafted some kids as well but when rebuilding you draft ALL kids not top-up players.

Patrick Bowden- picked to play asap. Had a good year but blind Fredy could see he was not drafted to be in our next premiership.
Jeremy Humm- discard from West Coast.

Graham Polak- played some good games for us but was traded for an early draft pick and possibly a good kid who could have been playing yesterday.
Kent Kinsley- Total disgrace of a pick. You can not tell me this was for the future of the club.

Jordan McMahon- again traded for an early draft pick for a quick fix. Weak, skinny and overated. Horrible selection and cannot even cement his spot in our very ordinary side.
Mitch Morton- another discard that has been ok BUT was dropped for yesterdays game and is a selfish player and who knows what will come of him. Quick fix in TW thoughts again.
Tristian Cartledge- Bomber discard that Terry thought he could make something of. Fail!

Adam Thomson- another mid draft selection traded away for another discard. (Cocko does not give away good players that easily) Cannot even get a game in a side with one win on the board, time will tell but am not holding my breath.
Tom Hislop- another Bomber discard that has shown not a great deal. Still early days but will bet he will be a waste of a draft pick.

Now if i have missed anybody i apoligise, but i think this clearly shows that TW had other things on his mind other than a rebuild. To say he has had "balls" is an utter joke and it only shows that he has "balls things up"

I also hope like you that the next coach has the RFC sustainable future in mind and sticks to it after they get appointed! It is pretty easy to say it but even harder to stick to it. I also hope the next coach has a game plan that lets us as supporters enjoy the game even if we get beat, a game plan that is exciting with run and carry and long kicking and goal scoring and none of this kicking sideways CRAP!!!

Big Tone.
Great post.
And then add the ratpoo game plan of 10 metres sideways backwards kicks.
Tell you this, coaches can ruin players, as this is the case as Punt Road. Foley running around in circles yesterday WTF.
Terry must go now.
Why ?
As players such as Nahas who actually ran straight through the corridor and kicked long to the top of the square will catch the current "" cancer "" that the other players have.
Had enough of Reiedwoldt too, OVERATED.
I never want to see Schulz and JON EVER again.
Better off playing players such as Putt etc. and giving guys there first game, give everyone on the list a game and see what we have
Look at Matty Knights people

Agreed, where is PUTT? Third season on our list and have not seen hide nor hair of him. He is tall and put on some size this year, he moves really well for a big bloke so why not throw him into the mix. We can bag the over 30's but we also need these kids to start pushing them out. Rance has been great and so has Colins, play these kids and maybe they might surprise!

Aso the other thing about us is the way we bring the ball into the forward line. No wonder the likes of Jack and Jay  and even JON cannot get a kick, we stuff around with the ball so much in the back half the opositon must just rub their hands together and think 'how easy is this'
All we want to see is our players running forward, taking them on and having ago, i can live with the turnovers as long as we try and kick a winning score. Just like the Bombers!

[Jackstar is back]

Now remember jack we were rubbished about Matty Knights
They played excellent football friday night.
He learnt dont play injured players

Hey Monk,
You should see the Private Messages I received in regards to my thoughts on Matty Knights and Essendon.
people saying I had no idea and that we were miles ahead of Essendon and my views were purely personal,
They also said that Essendon would be on the bottom for years and I had no idea.

GUESS WHAT . Monk .
Matty Knights has a plan and its working.
The same applies for Wayne Campbell

[Moi]

Now remember jack we were rubbished about Matty Knights
They played excellent football friday night.
He learnt dont play injured players

Hey Monk,
You should see the Private Messages I received in regards to my thoughts on Matty Knights and Essendon.
people saying I had no idea and that we were miles ahead of Essendon and my views were purely personal,
They also said that Essendon would be on the bottom for years and I had no idea.

GUESS WHAT . Monk .
Matty Knights has a plan and its working.
The same applies for Wayne Campbell

Based on the fact you could get your job back that Campbell's a good coach? 
Has he coached at any level?

[Jackstar is back]

Did Clarkson.?
Wouldnt matter.
Cambo thoughts on coaching will see a dramatic improvement when he takes over.
At least we will play on at all costs and have players isloated inside F 50.
At least we will kick goals in a game of footy and not play the game in our D50 each week.

Essendon were fantastic on friday night.
All they want to do is keep it simple
Run and carry and take the opposition in the corridor.
Thats what we should do.
Footy is a simple game.
Clowns like Wallace need to justify there $500,000 a year.

[Moi]

If we didn't keep having injuries we might be able to field a team comparable to the Bombers.
They are just as crap as us, Jack
You get on board every time they win a game but nowhere to be seen when they lose
Same with when we win, you're nowhere to be found 

We were rudderless yesterday.  We have no-one down forward presenting leads, hence us going in circles.
Don't know why they dropped Morton, he was no worse than anyone else and he at least has a go.
Does Terry pick the team or was that taken out of his hands too?
I really don't know what's going on down there, but I don't think it's all Wallace's doing.
Players play great and direct in the first quarter, the rest of the game they don't
Don't think Wallace told them to play like that.
But I agree he has to go now, just so we can salvage something for the year
But if you put Cambo in as coach, there's no way his mate Free is going to not appoint him at the end of the year as permanent coach.
If you really cared about Richmond, Jack, you'd want the best available,
And is that Cambo?
I doubt it

[Jackstar is back]

Terry picks the team which is picked on a Monday arvo( give or take injuried players)
Terry does have different styles of play, although he likes to defend games rather than attack ( noticable by the constant chipping around )
Moi, as soon as Brisbane got 2 goals in arow, the team went defensive, he sends players back behind the ball thus the chip chip chip style comes into play- the rest is history -150 possesions to get the next goal, IT AINT THE PLAYERS FAULT.
The game is then played IN OUR D50.  as you seen yesterday, when we did go forward , there was no one to kick too

I dont know if Cambo is long term, have to suck it and see I think.

[Ramps]

Whoever coaches RFC needs to put the broom through the player list IMMEDIATELY. This is one of the reasons why Wallace will lose his job, the first 3 years he didnt get rid of enough players. Whoever coaches Richmond should be looking at atleast 4 senior players getting the arse (only Richo and Cousins) have something to offer, they should try for some player for player trades, guys like Houlihan who is on WCEs list is playing good footy at the WAFL level, Djekurra wont see any major game time at Geelong, we need 2 or 3 of these trades- player for player, anyone who survives that process who cant kick like King should be delisted. 10 Changes is the Minimum.

[Moi]

I dont know if Cambo is long term, have to suck it and see I think.

We've all agreed we probably need a change of coach
Let's all try and work out the best one, not someone who is your mate.
If Cambo wants to coach, let him go and do an apprenticeship.
And then if he was doing well, I'd be more than happy to give him a go
He's no Buckley, Voss or Hird who would automatically get a gig if they chose to
Well, he shouldn't be, but he is being considered which is baffliing to me

[Moi]

This is one of the reasons why Wallace will lose his job, the first 3 years he didnt get rid of enough players.

He did get rid of them, Ramps
Such a lame argument which gets churned out.
Oh yes, I know he recruited McMahon and Bowden
Please don't tell me again.